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Old 10-19-2011, 02:39 AM
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C43K AMG 436 rwhp moded ML55 AMG 190td 190e 2.3-16v moded EK9 Civic
C43k 335I moded CLK63 BS

So I had the chance to take a BS on and wow that thing sound amazing. He did pull a little bit harder then me and pulled away little by little. I can't wait to get my own and SC it. Then some guy in a 335I brand new and moded gave me a run for my money and happen to stay with me. I couldn't believe it. So I'm going to pull the trigger on the $4k re-tune and take myself up 500+ RWHP from 436. A few upgrades would be smaller pulley, 55 lb injectors, 100 octane software etc.
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That's some impressive rwhp (436) you got there dude, looking forward to seeing you crest the 500 mark.
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C43K AMG 436 rwhp moded ML55 AMG 190td 190e 2.3-16v moded EK9 Civic
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That's some impressive rwhp (436) you got there dude, looking forward to seeing you crest the 500 mark.
Thank bud, I really put my heart and soul into this thing.
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I bet. Personally, I love the 202 C43 platform far more than the limp wrist/mundane looking 203 C class my wife has. The new 204 went back to the 202 DNA and looks like a proper C class again. C43 is timless.

Again, really looking forward to your results and some pics

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Wow, that C43 you have is a beast!!
Looking forward to seeing you get that monster up to 500 hp.
Which tune are you going with?
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C43K AMG 436 rwhp moded ML55 AMG 190td 190e 2.3-16v moded EK9 Civic
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Wow, that C43 you have is a beast!!
Looking forward to seeing you get that monster up to 500 hp.
Which tune are you going with?
I will have Dyno-comp and Atwood European write the code for the software so that car will run on 100 octane and the rest will be done by my tech who does all custom work for autobahn motors and topline.
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$4k retune We would love to see a time slip after the retune
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C43K AMG 436 rwhp moded ML55 AMG 190td 190e 2.3-16v moded EK9 Civic
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$4k retune We would love to see a time slip after the retune
ya I know it's kind of a lot of money but the car has already come this far and it only has 49k miles on it now plus I'm not going to pull the trigger on the CLK BS till late 2012. So I want to make the C43 as fun as I can, I also don't plan to sell it at lease not now.
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Originally Posted by amgmaster4343
I will have Dyno-comp and Atwood European write the code for the software so that car will run on 100 octane and the rest will be done by my tech who does all custom work for autobahn motors and topline.
dynocomp ftw!
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Originally Posted by emoving
I CALL

+1000 who the heck will pay $4k for ECU tune for the car worth $8K
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Originally Posted by CharlyE500
+1000 who the heck will pay $4k for ECU tune for the car worth $8K

You seem to have a knack for devaluing our cars

KBB has his car with that milage at $11,210, and that's before ANY of the upgrades he's done to his car.

I'm eager to see the dyno and time slip after the tune.
C43s with the 5.4l upgrade and other goodies have gotten mid 11s, and that's with upper 400s at the wheels and 3600-3700lbs with driver. With amgmaster's C43 (assumedly) having 500+rwhp, he could definitely be into the top of the 10s depending on how much power he can crank out, how heavy he is and some good luck (and DRs)at the strip.

But we'll have to wait and see
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people put supercharged corvette engines in mk1 golfs that are worth $1500... what gives, are you a petrol head or not? Is there nothing sacred. Anytime anyone does something awesome to an awesome car i think its dope. Even if i dont have the loot to mod my car to the nines.. there isn't anything quite like the w202 out there. It certainly is a more fitten canvas than a hopped up civic and there are minions of ricers out there that have spent thousands to make their cars fart.

(still $4k for a tune does seem extreme now that i think about it)
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I CALL
and an easy call at that
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its so weird that anyone would have such a boring life that they would possibly bs about their cars on a forum that i never even think of it. I just assume when i hear things like this that some people have serious loot and that a fool is soon separated from their money. Why make crap up on some random forum with ppl you don't really know? odd.
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Originally Posted by emoving
I CALL
What part are you calling BS about? (P.S. you have one of the SICKEST E55's out there!)

As far as the $4k into an $8k car, some guys have $30k+ into their $60k C63's is that crazy too?
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Originally Posted by amgmaster4343
So I had the chance to take a BS on and wow that thing sound amazing. He did pull a little bit harder then me and pulled away little by little. I can't wait to get my own and SC it. Then some guy in a 335I brand new and moded gave me a run for my money and happen to stay with me. I couldn't believe it. So I'm going to pull the trigger on the $4k re-tune and take myself up 500+ RWHP from 436. A few upgrades would be smaller pulley, 55 lb injectors, 100 octane software etc.
please post a dyno of your car thanks. I know the kleemann kit says a 158hp gain from stock NOT RWHP but CRANK hp.

They say:The systems are designed for the 113 engine itself and each vehicle receives a unique installation. Fits: S430, S500, and S55. S430 4.3 V8 shows gains of 158 HP and 118 lbs/ft of Torque. S500 5.0 V8 shows gains of 158 HP and 93 lbs/ft of Torque. (455hp at crank)
READ:

http://www.gmpperformance.com/index....ail&PID=120030


Now the kit you have on your car is the notorious problematic HPS2 kit which does not compare,so please explain

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How many times to have to say, my car has interals! I blew the enigne 3 years ago then I rebuilt it with custom interals and built the block for the SC. This how 436 happens. When I did rebuild the block My tech say I could do 550 to 600 RWHP but the tranny and fame could not handle it. This is like someone saying you can't get 1500HP out of a Z06 TT uhh ya you can if you rebuild the block for the TT.
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people put supercharged corvette engines in mk1 golfs that are worth $1500... what gives, are you a petrol head or not? Is there nothing sacred. Anytime anyone does something awesome to an awesome car i think its dope. Even if i dont have the loot to mod my car to the nines.. there isn't anything quite like the w202 out there. It certainly is a more fitten canvas than a hopped up civic and there are minions of ricers out there that have spent thousands to make their cars fart.

(still $4k for a tune does seem extreme now that i think about it)
Corvette SC kit or tune cost half of Mercedes. And they were build as Sport car. C43 is a sedan that can go fast but spending $4k tune + SC kit $4k + internal work according to him $2k to $4k) = $10K to mod at least. Do you really think that make sense someone offer him a HPS kit for $24K ?!
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Originally Posted by 503C43 ////AMG
What part are you calling BS about? (P.S. you have one of the SICKEST E55's out there!)

As far as the $4k into an $8k car, some guys have $30k+ into their $60k C63's is that crazy too?

Its not $4k only. $4k is for ECU tune. If you add the SC kit, at least $10k+
So do you think $60K C63 guy will spend other $80K only in mod ?
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Originally Posted by CharlyE500
Corvette SC kit or tune cost half of Mercedes. And they were build as Sport car. C43 is a sedan that can go fast but spending $4k tune + SC kit $4k + internal work according to him $2k to $4k) = $10K to mod at least. Do you really think that make sense someone offer him a HPS kit for $24K ?!

No your right it does make sense. Remember I put the SC on the car like 5 years ago and blew it up 3 years ago and if the car did not have a sentimental family vaule to me I would have never dumped the money I did into it. I would of just bought a C63 at the time. exp: I would lol at someone if they told me they had a 190e with 25k into it but if it is sentimental it changes everthing. I agree with what you say about the sport car fact, this way I don't want a 4 door car again.
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Originally Posted by amgmaster4343
How many times to have to say, my car has interals! I blew the enigne 3 years ago then I rebuilt it with custom interals and built the block for the SC. This how 436 happens. When I did rebuild the block My tech say I could do 550 to 600 RWHP but the tranny and fame could not handle it. This is like someone saying you can't get 1500HP out of a Z06 TT uhh ya you can if you rebuild the block for the TT.
Dude I know about motors and custom internals. Changing pistons(lower compression) or cams or rods alone even with headwork is not gonna just give your car 436whp. Sure the motor will accomodate the hp you mention but unless you somehow raised the boost by putting on some custom pullies and programmed the car to run with ALL these things I've mentioned,it would perhaps be more believable especially if you post a dyno.

I know two cars personally with that same kit you have and they had to do extensive mods to that poorly designed kit alone just to get some hp out of their 5.0's. And they produced dynos.
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Originally Posted by nd4spd13
You seem to have a knack for devaluing our cars

KBB has his car with that milage at $11,210, and that's before ANY of the upgrades he's done to his car.

I'm eager to see the dyno and time slip after the tune.
C43s with the 5.4l upgrade and other goodies have gotten mid 11s, and that's with upper 400s at the wheels and 3600-3700lbs with driver. With amgmaster's C43 (assumedly) having 500+rwhp, he could definitely be into the top of the 10s depending on how much power he can crank out, how heavy he is and some good luck (and DRs)at the strip.

But we'll have to wait and see


Coming from someone with a highly modified C43... if it was worth 11,210 before his upgrades, it's worth 8k now.

I am about to drop close to $4k into mine- but certainly not for a tune. I harbor no illusions that I could sell my car for anything.

Also, I agree with the BS call. Doing the internals doesn't make the power, just would allow for it. I think our motors are good for more power than you are claiming on stock internals anyways. That said, why in the world would you do the internals on a 4.3 anyways when you could have spent less for a 5.5, and you can't say it was to "make more power" unless you post those charts. HPS2... with that same $4k you could sell that then put that money and the $4k into a centrifugal setup and a local/semi-local dyno tune (there are some places claiming they can do it) and I would think you could shoot for 550 or 600hp... but then the transmission would just explode, hence why I am NOT trying to go over 400whp/500 ft lbs or so just for reliability. Or do you have a custom manual swap too?

Can't wait to be able to post my own new Dynos... matter of 10-12 weeks now.

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C43/55,2k11 Volvo S60 T6AWD,2k Audi B5 S4,95 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD 500+awhp
I think you guys all need to read about my friend Alex's R129 SL500.Before he had the 5.0L motor with the HPS charger. Now he has converted the car finally to a 5.5L HPS charged monster with extensive mods. And he had to extensively mod the faulty HPS 2 kit. However, with the 5.5L JE forged pistons it made 469rwhp with extensive mods and I believe the stock 500 tranny ut that was also with JE pistons. He now has bored the motor out to a 5.6L motor with mahle pistons and is already doing mods insearch of more rwhp.
So basically he's been there and done it all. I don't think the 4.3liter built can attain the same #'s especially not reliably.


Read his thread: THE QUEST TO REACH 600HP
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r129...ach-600hp.html

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Until I see a dyno I call BS!

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