C36 AMG, C43 AMG (W202) 1995 - 2000

Helllp!!!! Please

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 02-06-2012, 08:34 PM
  #1  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
cport85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
99 c43 amg
Helllp!!!! Please

have a 99 c43 amg never gave me a problem with the exception of changing the maf last year, today i drove to work and after work was driving back home and car just died at stop sign cranked it nothing , looked at gas gage light was on but it had just came on , so i went to a gas station filled up a 5 gal tank , came back filled my car i crank it and nothing it just wouldnt start i opend the hood all look ok no vacum leaks nothing , i unpluged battery for 10 mins plug it back and car started right up, i have no clue what happend no check engine light came on, i drove it home turned it off , turned it back on and it turned on, but now i dont know if this is going to happen again, any ideas on what the issue might be, thanks in advance.
Old 02-06-2012, 09:03 PM
  #2  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
cm60k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: A.D., U.A.E
Posts: 7,029
Likes: 0
Received 383 Likes on 348 Posts
00 C200 & 00 C55 & 06 SLK55
Did you check your Battery..?, if it OK, then you may have a bad Alternator or CPS sensor.......

ZAYED,,

Last edited by cm60k; 02-06-2012 at 09:06 PM.
Old 02-07-2012, 03:12 AM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
DRBC43AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Land of mountains, cheese, chocolate and watches
Posts: 5,677
Received 257 Likes on 217 Posts
12' W204 C63 AMG coupe "T-Rex", 12' W451 Smart Fortwo Pulse (99' W202 C43 AMG sold)
I would also check the CPS as I suspect that is the culprit. It happened to me less that one week after I purchased the vehicle. Starts fine when cold, and plays up when hot.
Have a good check of your battery condition (water level, etc.) as it gets kind of forgotten in the bottom of the rear trunk
Old 02-07-2012, 09:54 AM
  #4  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
cport85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
99 c43 amg
Originally Posted by DRBC43AMG
I would also check the CPS as I suspect that is the culprit. It happened to me less that one week after I purchased the vehicle. Starts fine when cold, and plays up when hot.
Have a good check of your battery condition (water level, etc.) as it gets kind of forgotten in the bottom of the rear trunk

Battery is 5 weeks old, only thing i can think is maybe the cps because it cranked strong but didndt start, i felt like it kinda of was trying to start and it would at times but would just die, so not battery , defenatly had gas, so cps is my only suspect for now. thing is if it is the cps would it just die on me as if if ran out of gas?

Last edited by cport85; 02-07-2012 at 10:44 AM.
Old 02-07-2012, 10:41 AM
  #5  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
cm60k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: A.D., U.A.E
Posts: 7,029
Likes: 0
Received 383 Likes on 348 Posts
00 C200 & 00 C55 & 06 SLK55
Yes, it may happens like that sometimes, but we can’t confirm that 100%, prefer if you can go to good garage that has an MB Star to

diagnose the car, it takes around 15-20 minutes only,, then everything well be clear to you without guess & headaches........

ZAYED,,
Old 02-07-2012, 10:41 AM
  #6  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
cport85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
99 c43 amg
also if it was the cps wouldnt the check engine light come on, i have a o2 sacanner would any codes pop up if its the cps?
Old 02-07-2012, 10:51 AM
  #7  
Super Member
 
Super B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Oregon
Posts: 549
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
'97 c36
But don't rule out the mass air flow either. When the Maf went out on my car it just died and wouldn't restart. This would happen after idling for more then a couple minutes. Disconnect it and plug it back in it would fire right up. Might just change the CPS for peace of mind. but if it happens again try unplugging the Maf and see if it starts right back up.
Old 02-07-2012, 10:54 AM
  #8  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
DRBC43AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Land of mountains, cheese, chocolate and watches
Posts: 5,677
Received 257 Likes on 217 Posts
12' W204 C63 AMG coupe "T-Rex", 12' W451 Smart Fortwo Pulse (99' W202 C43 AMG sold)
Good suggestion Super B. Didn't think about the MAF
Old 02-07-2012, 10:57 AM
  #9  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
cport85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
99 c43 amg
maf is possible as i went through 2 of them but both time it threw a code and i replaced it and it was fine , as far and the cps, where can i order one and where is it located, is it a pain to replace? Im willing to spend the money on the maf insert its not bad going for 115 free shiping easy replacement as far as the cps if its a easy fix as for me to do it myself i am willing to replace that as well depending on how hard it is to put in, anyone have a pic of where its located, thanks guys for all your feedback.
Old 02-07-2012, 10:59 AM
  #10  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
cm60k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: A.D., U.A.E
Posts: 7,029
Likes: 0
Received 383 Likes on 348 Posts
00 C200 & 00 C55 & 06 SLK55
Sometimes CPS culprits the Engine, cause it has a magnet, that magnet send a signal that tells the ECU about the rotation of the flywheel,

that’s also effect to the Engine performance,, sometimes Engine lights comes on & sometimes not,, anyway its very important to change the

CPS after a while, to take a good optimise..........

ZAYED,,
Old 02-07-2012, 11:05 AM
  #11  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
cm60k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: A.D., U.A.E
Posts: 7,029
Likes: 0
Received 383 Likes on 348 Posts
00 C200 & 00 C55 & 06 SLK55
Originally Posted by cport85
anyone have a pic of where its located, thanks guys for all your feedback.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w203...r-cps-diy.html

ZAYED,,
Old 02-07-2012, 11:48 AM
  #12  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
cport85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
99 c43 amg
Originally Posted by cm60k
i found cps sensor at autohaus but they have two refering tho engine serial number witch one is it, heres the link http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...ition%20Sensor
Old 02-07-2012, 12:10 PM
  #13  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
cm60k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: A.D., U.A.E
Posts: 7,029
Likes: 0
Received 383 Likes on 348 Posts
00 C200 & 00 C55 & 06 SLK55
There are "2" kinds of CPS,

1) #: "003 153 27 28 or 28 28"

2) #: "003 153 95 28 or 96 28"

*it depends of the CPS connector plug in your car,, one comes with "1" pin, which uses "003 153 27 28 or 28 28", and the other with "2" pins

which uses "003 153 95 28 or 96 28", you need to pull the connector plug & see how many pins you have.........

ZAYED,,
Old 02-07-2012, 03:05 PM
  #14  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
cport85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
99 c43 amg
Originally Posted by cm60k
There are "2" kinds of CPS,

1) #: "003 153 27 28 or 28 28"

2) #: "003 153 95 28 or 96 28"

*it depends of the CPS connector plug in your car,, one comes with "1" pin, which uses "003 153 27 28 or 28 28", and the other with "2" pins

which uses "003 153 95 28 or 96 28", you need to pull the connector plug & see how many pins you have.........

ZAYED,,

ok thanks bud.
Old 02-07-2012, 04:25 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
hoontastic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 341
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
99 c43 / 99 ml430
It could also be the fuel pump. I had a no start with a strong crank in my ML. After reading the forums i was sure it was the CPS. I changed the CPS and the problem persisted. Towed it to a shop and they replace the fuel pump and the problem was solved. That being said in most cases a strong crank with no start is often the CPS.
Old 02-07-2012, 04:43 PM
  #16  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
DRBC43AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Land of mountains, cheese, chocolate and watches
Posts: 5,677
Received 257 Likes on 217 Posts
12' W204 C63 AMG coupe "T-Rex", 12' W451 Smart Fortwo Pulse (99' W202 C43 AMG sold)
Talking about fuel, check also your fuel filter. It does need to be changed from time to time, depending on the quality and origin of fuel you put in the tank
Old 02-07-2012, 05:11 PM
  #17  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
cm60k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: A.D., U.A.E
Posts: 7,029
Likes: 0
Received 383 Likes on 348 Posts
00 C200 & 00 C55 & 06 SLK55
That’s right, of course, "fuel pump & fuel filter & injectors" can cause a hesitate for the Engine, specially with started & low miles driving........

ZAYED,,
Old 02-07-2012, 05:49 PM
  #18  
Super Member
 
stockC43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Sleepy Hollow, IL
Posts: 852
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
65 Chevelle Wagon w/ C5 frame, 08 ML63, 04 S600, 04 E55,(sold) 00 ML55,(sold) 98 C43-55K Swap
It is the crank sensor. It will only store the code if you have it running, then it dies, and without cycling the key read the codes. once you cycle the key it clears the code for what ever reason. The newer cars (05ish up) can store crank sensor codes but the c43 won't. Heat is what affects them so if it acts up, leaving you stranded, open the hood and let it cool off. Then replace it
Old 02-07-2012, 11:58 PM
  #19  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
503C43 ////AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: PDX
Posts: 4,433
Received 42 Likes on 33 Posts
1999 C43, 2008 P30 E63, 2014 SQ5, 2024 Model Y Performance
Originally Posted by John7898
Did you check your Battery..?, if it OK, then you may have a bad Alternator or CPS sensor.......
What is with this site and the BOT's??? what purpose do these BOT's serve? I think my favorite is they almost always show "BMW" as the car they drive
Old 02-08-2012, 12:43 AM
  #20  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
cm60k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: A.D., U.A.E
Posts: 7,029
Likes: 0
Received 383 Likes on 348 Posts
00 C200 & 00 C55 & 06 SLK55
>>Ditto<<......

ZAYED,,
Old 02-08-2012, 03:23 AM
  #21  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
DRBC43AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Land of mountains, cheese, chocolate and watches
Posts: 5,677
Received 257 Likes on 217 Posts
12' W204 C63 AMG coupe "T-Rex", 12' W451 Smart Fortwo Pulse (99' W202 C43 AMG sold)
If it is a BOT, has anyone flagged the poster to the admins? If not I will gladly do it.
DONE

Last edited by DRBC43AMG; 02-08-2012 at 03:24 AM. Reason: After flagging

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Helllp!!!! Please



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:52 AM.