Just a thought?
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Just a thought?
Many people on this forum did the w203 AMG swap to their w202 - w208 - w210 cars to save money because of expensive AMG rotors.
Beacuse of a different location on calipers between w202 and w203, calipers needs to be switched on w202 to get the bleeder valve on the upper side to make the bleeding process correct.
Because of this piston operation comes in the wrong place.
So here's my idea, is this possible to do it this way?
Put the left side caliper on left side with the bleeders down, same thing on the other side.
Both calipers are now mounted correct with bleeder valves pointing down.
Then: screw and secure the upper caliper bolt losely on the upper side fastening bracket, then lift the caliper all the way up so the bleeding valve points upwards to get all the air out from the brake system when bleeding?
Maybe caliper needs to be hold with one hand or secured by something not to fall down while bleeding?
Does it work doing this way, this question is for you guys working with cars?
Beacuse of a different location on calipers between w202 and w203, calipers needs to be switched on w202 to get the bleeder valve on the upper side to make the bleeding process correct.
Because of this piston operation comes in the wrong place.
So here's my idea, is this possible to do it this way?
Put the left side caliper on left side with the bleeders down, same thing on the other side.
Both calipers are now mounted correct with bleeder valves pointing down.
Then: screw and secure the upper caliper bolt losely on the upper side fastening bracket, then lift the caliper all the way up so the bleeding valve points upwards to get all the air out from the brake system when bleeding?
Maybe caliper needs to be hold with one hand or secured by something not to fall down while bleeding?
Does it work doing this way, this question is for you guys working with cars?
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I would not even try and risk popping the pistons out of the calliper
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I'm not even considering about taking out any pistons!
just pulling the caliper housing up in the air with one bolt secured onto bracket/hub when doing the bleeding process.
this way it must work?
with this install you have correct caliper on correct place then you have 100% braking, reight?
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Don’t worry,, i used the Calipers up-side down( bleeder down) many times before,, no any issue, you can also bleed the air in this position,, sorry i
don’t got any pics. for that Caliper position.......
https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...e-upgrade.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...-calipers.html
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don’t got any pics. for that Caliper position.......
https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...e-upgrade.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...-calipers.html
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shu habibi
brakes looks great, must have cost you a fortune or
are AMG parts cheap in Middle east?
Btw can you take an interior picture of your C43, centre console and dash console.
Do you have KM reading or Mileage on your cars?
Where did you import your car from?
Lebanon?
shu habibi
brakes looks great, must have cost you a fortune or
are AMG parts cheap in Middle east?
Btw can you take an interior picture of your C43, centre console and dash console.
Do you have KM reading or Mileage on your cars?
Where did you import your car from?
Lebanon?
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In this moment i have only "2" pics. here: https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...on-please.html
I got KM reading,, we usually NOT import cars from Lebanon,,
i bought it from Japan directly "4" years ago, also the "500E & SL500 & E60" as well......
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I got KM reading,, we usually NOT import cars from Lebanon,,
i bought it from Japan directly "4" years ago, also the "500E & SL500 & E60" as well......
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I'm not even considering about taking out any pistons!
just pulling the caliper housing up in the air with one bolt secured onto bracket/hub when doing the bleeding process.
this way it must work?
with this install you have correct caliper on correct place then you have 100% braking, reight?
I'm not even considering about taking out any pistons!
just pulling the caliper housing up in the air with one bolt secured onto bracket/hub when doing the bleeding process.
this way it must work?
with this install you have correct caliper on correct place then you have 100% braking, reight?
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Denis, if you swing the calliper in the upper position you need to remove the part from the rotor. My worry was if you proceed like that with no rotor, the moment you pump the brakes the pistons will most likely pop out of the housing. If this is the way you want to go, all I can say is BEWARE
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Denis, if you swing the calliper in the upper position you need to remove the part from the rotor. My worry was if you proceed like that with no rotor, the moment you pump the brakes the pistons will most likely pop out of the housing. If this is the way you want to go, all I can say is BEWARE
never thought about piston comming out.
maybe if he puts a solid plate in between pads with the caliper off when bleeding?
I don't do any safety stuff, this is a job for my techguy.
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I was about to suggest - you SHOULD theoretically be able to bleed the caliper with it off the car, with the bleeder hose pointing upwards and an old rotor or some old pads stuck between the new pads to keep the pistons inside the calipers themselves. I was planning on doing this with the C32/55 calipers on the C43, but haven't gotten around to it.
Zayed, but you are saying you've bled them with the bleeder valves pointing downwards? You must have power bled them? Still worked okay? I'm surprised.
One of the guys on the 203 forum recently upgraded to a 6 piston front and 4 piston rear setup on his car, basically a setup from an SLK55 I think. He had trouble bleeding with a mityvac and the 'pumping the pedal' method. Took it to a shop who power bled and it was all good.
Zayed, but you are saying you've bled them with the bleeder valves pointing downwards? You must have power bled them? Still worked okay? I'm surprised.
One of the guys on the 203 forum recently upgraded to a 6 piston front and 4 piston rear setup on his car, basically a setup from an SLK55 I think. He had trouble bleeding with a mityvac and the 'pumping the pedal' method. Took it to a shop who power bled and it was all good.
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I was about to suggest - you SHOULD theoretically be able to bleed the caliper with it off the car, with the bleeder hose pointing upwards and an old rotor or some old pads stuck between the new pads to keep the pistons inside the calipers themselves. I was planning on doing this with the C32/55 calipers on the C43, but haven't gotten around to it.
Zayed, but you are saying you've bled them with the bleeder valves pointing downwards? You must have power bled them? Still worked okay? I'm surprised.
One of the guys on the 203 forum recently upgraded to a 6 piston front and 4 piston rear setup on his car, basically a setup from an SLK55 I think. He had trouble bleeding with a mityvac and the 'pumping the pedal' method. Took it to a shop who power bled and it was all good.
Zayed, but you are saying you've bled them with the bleeder valves pointing downwards? You must have power bled them? Still worked okay? I'm surprised.
One of the guys on the 203 forum recently upgraded to a 6 piston front and 4 piston rear setup on his car, basically a setup from an SLK55 I think. He had trouble bleeding with a mityvac and the 'pumping the pedal' method. Took it to a shop who power bled and it was all good.
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I have not yet tried my Motive Power Bleeder on the AMGs. I did my S2000 with it, very effective. I will next likely do my Audi with it, and then the Benzes. Thing is, the WIS stipulates 30 psi of pressure. That's maxing out the Motive. The Motive's instructions are not to exceed 20 psi too. I don't want to be in the position where I have to take the car to the shop to bleed, that's just a pain. I'm hoping the Motive will have enough pressure to handle the Benzes. I really should have bought one years ago, it's great stuff.
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I have one and it does a perfect job. Didn't work very well with the rear callipers upside down and bleeders to the pointing down. Turn them the right way up and everything is OK.
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Zayed, but you are saying you've bled them with the bleeder valves pointing downwards? You must have power bled them? Still worked okay? I'm surprised.
One of the guys on the 203 forum recently upgraded to a 6 piston front and 4 piston rear setup on his car, basically a setup from an SLK55 I think. He had trouble bleeding with a mityvac and the 'pumping the pedal' method. Took it to a shop who power bled and it was all good.
One of the guys on the 203 forum recently upgraded to a 6 piston front and 4 piston rear setup on his car, basically a setup from an SLK55 I think. He had trouble bleeding with a mityvac and the 'pumping the pedal' method. Took it to a shop who power bled and it was all good.
The garage uses a locally pressure bleeder before:
http://www.bayarea02.com/techtips/brake_bleeder.html
and custom made cap:
http://faculty.ccp.edu/faculty/dreed...eder/index.htm
but recently, we purchased a "Mityvac 6840 or 6842" pressure bleeder kit, its very good & it has the different sizes of Caps:
http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_bcbe.asp
*can’t of course doing the foot bleed, i don’t think its enough to take the air-out from hole system,, we use the pressure bleeder especially with ABS
system, with "10-12" psi ,, everything goes well, i didn’t force any issues....!!
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Last edited by cm60k; Sep 12, 2012 at 01:18 AM.
