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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 07:50 PM
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Hi guys/gals i have some questions for you.Just bought a 1995 c36 amg to re build with/for my son. My question is what head bolts to use and what top end
gasket set to use i know it Has to b a amg kit but wich one is better ? Does any one make a mls or copper one? Also where can i find a timing chain n gears or
do these go bad? There is a oil leak and small amount in the coolant so we figured we will change head gasket but since well have the head opened up we were going to change the chain n gears .What is your thaughts? You were all
very helpful with questions i had with my c32 amg so i hope you will b here to .
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 10:32 PM
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Congrats on snagging one of the rarest old AMG's ever sent to the US!

The C36 is a wonderful car and one of my all time favorites.

The head gasket job is an absolute must on any MB from 1994 and 1995 with the M104 straight six.

You do not need special head gasket or special head bolts, and I'm doubtful if they even make top-shelf gaskets/bolts for these engines. Just order them new from autohausaz.com or partsgeek.com and make sure to follow proper procedure when torquing those bolts down! I need to stress this: torque the bolts down in the right order to the right foot lbs (the exact method eludes me right now)

Be careful with the engine's wiring harness and the big black cable that goes to the throttle body. They were made of biodegrading wires on the insides and, if they are factory original, will almost certainly need to be replaced. A large number of these cars went to the crusher when dealerships/indie shops told the owners it was going to be $2000-3,000 to replace one of (or both of) those parts. They're quite easy to replace yourself with a new/rebuilt one (or rebuild it yourself if you're remotely handy with wiring). Lots of resources online to rebuild m104 wiring harness and throttle body actuator.

I wouldn't waste my time changing timing gears. I don't think I've ever heard of an M104 needing new timing gears. They're really quite amazing, rock solid, durable engines from top to bottom. I put 254,000 miles on one, abusing it like a scalded mule the entire time. Almost no stretch in the chain. But if you're opening it up anyway, might as well replace the chain too.

I'm super jealous. I would murder someone for a mint, daily driver C36.
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 10:43 PM
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THANK YOU! and THANKS FOR YOUR HELP! THIS IS A GREAT COMMUNITY! The car has 100k on it the person we got it from changed the color to white bumpers and hood need to b painted it has a ton of new parts (tires brks shocks exct) we payed $1800.00 for car so i figured we wouldnt get hurt on it. We will post build .THANKS AGAIN AND IF ANY ONE HAS THE TORQUE PLEASE POST!
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ssoutlaw74
THANK YOU! and THANKS FOR YOUR HELP! THIS IS A GREAT COMMUNITY! The car has 100k on it the person we got it from changed the color to white bumpers and hood need to b painted it has a ton of new parts (tires brks shocks exct) we payed $1800.00 for car so i figured we wouldnt get hurt on it. We will post build .THANKS AGAIN AND IF ANY ONE HAS THE TORQUE PLEASE POST!
Oh my God. 1800 for a C36 with only 100k on the clock? It's still new!
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Old Aug 11, 2013 | 02:07 PM
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The car has 100k. we payed $1800.00 for car
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Old Aug 11, 2013 | 06:12 PM
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nd4spd were looking for shifter counsel the wood grain part do u still have that ?And i really cant find a good source for head gasket do you all suggest to go to MB direct
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Old Aug 11, 2013 | 10:33 PM
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Yes, get the gasket from MB. Nice score on the car..
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Thanks for the kind words. We were kind of stoked when we found it cant wait to start on it
Father son project! We will post build picks . we still need the shifter wood grain councel top
and shift knob . Its got the 17 amg block rims on it think a 2.5 drop will b to much?
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Check on mymercedes.com and mbparts.com....do a search I believe I had seen those parts on one of those sites.Also any w202... 220,230,280 etc MY 94-2000 console and shift knob will be identical at a pick n pull for cheap.For the shifter you will just need the ''c36'' insert for the top.You can find those on ebay cheap.Just to get you started...good luck post pics
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nd4spd were looking for shifter counsel the wood grain part do u still have that ?And i really cant find a good source for head gasket do you all suggest to go to MB direct
I know I don't have the one off my 36 unfortunately. I know I had a spare laying around somewhere, but I have a feeling it was a post-facelift version.
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