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Old 04-08-2016 | 06:02 AM
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Engine weight for M113 engines?

Where can I find information regarding techical data like engine weight (kilograms) and HP/NM numbers for different M113 AMG engines?
Engines which I need information for are these: 113944 - 113980 - 113986

Does 113980 engine differ a lot in weight versus C43 engine 113944 because of bigger displacement?
Old 04-08-2016 | 07:01 AM
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I think M113 (5.4l) around (1,710kg),,

while M113 (4.2l) around (1,640kg), but NOT that sure..!

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you mean 5.4L engine has an approximately weight of 171kg and 4.3L weights about 164kg?

what is the torque/RPM's for:
4.3L = 410NM @ --------?
5.4L = 530NM @ --------?
Old 04-08-2016 | 08:32 AM
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*5.4l (1,710kg) = (3,790lb),

*4.2l (1,640kg) = (3,615lb),

as i know;

*C43 torque is (302 lb-ft) at>>(3,250 - 5,000 rpm)

*E55 torque is (391 lb-ft) at >>(3,150 - 4,500 rpm)

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I think Dennis is right, the whole car weighs 3,400lbs!
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engine might be around 200KG's heavy?

my car has a registered weight of 1630KG + some extra weight from add ons

how much did c36 with I6 engine weight?
do both engines differ a lot in weight between cast iron VS aluminium?
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I believe M104 3.6l weight is (1485kg), isn't..??

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This is all I could find

http://qclt.com/train/w202/w202/engi..._compengen.htm
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Originally Posted by kowalski
Where can I find information regarding techical data like engine weight (kilograms) and HP/NM numbers for different M113 AMG engines?
Engines which I need information for are these: 113944 - 113980 - 113986

Does 113980 engine differ a lot in weight versus C43 engine 113944 because of bigger displacement?
Wikipedia is your friend but I haven't found the weight....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M113_engine

Checked around but couldn't find any precise figures. Estimates talk around the 130-150kg bracket

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I'll have an unused 4.3l engine to weigh soon, if possible
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If you click the link I posted youd see that the c43 motor weights 206 kg
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If you click the link I posted youd see that the c43 motor weights 206 kg
Nice find. Didn't check it out....
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Still would like to now the difference in weight between 4.3/5.4?
Since December I own a Carlsson Cm60 has a m113 that is a 6.0
To me it doesnt feel more nose heavy at all, Im surprised! Might be a bit heavier but not noticable!
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im not an expert by any means, but if its the same engine block with different bore and stroke and maybe cams the weight should not be all that different. so the M113 C43, CLK55, and the 6.0 i would assume are all within maybe 20lbs/10kg maximum of each other?

somewhere in these forums there was a link to a post on some other site with tons of mercedes engine weights (just the engine), lots of old old engines. i do remember looking and finding that the 113 engine was something like 200lbs lighter than the I6 from the C36 due to the aluminum vs the cast iron block.
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Originally Posted by Dziner82
im not an expert by any means, but if its the same engine block with different bore and stroke and maybe cams the weight should not be all that different. so the M113 C43, CLK55, and the 6.0 i would assume are all within maybe 20lbs/10kg maximum of each other?

somewhere in these forums there was a link to a post on some other site with tons of mercedes engine weights (just the engine), lots of old old engines. i do remember looking and finding that the 113 engine was something like 200lbs lighter than the I6 from the C36 due to the aluminum vs the cast iron block.
I concur that the weight difference between the 43 and 55 is probably minimal. The weight talked about is that for a full engine, i.e. with all the surrounding ancillaries including manifolds, or just "naked"?
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Originally Posted by Dziner82
im not an expert by any means, but if its the same engine block with different bore and stroke and maybe cams the weight should not be all that different. so the M113 C43, CLK55, and the 6.0 i would assume are all within maybe 20lbs/10kg maximum of each other?

somewhere in these forums there was a link to a post on some other site with tons of mercedes engine weights (just the engine), lots of old old engines. i do remember looking and finding that the 113 engine was something like 200lbs lighter than the I6 from the C36 due to the aluminum vs the cast iron block.
I agree, I dont really see why it would be alot more heavy (lets say over 10KG)
Always loved my c36, but im surprised with the weight of the M113
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am I crazy, or would the higher displacement engines weigh less than the 4.3l? the cylinder the decreased bore of the block would indicate that overall more alusil is present in that engine, and there is less alusil required to cast a 5.4l engine. increased bore = more air in each cylinder right?
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I think you might be right ^^^
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Originally Posted by Sulaco
am I crazy, or would the higher displacement engines weigh less than the 4.3l? the cylinder the decreased bore of the block would indicate that overall more alusil is present in that engine, and there is less alusil required to cast a 5.4l engine. increased bore = more air in each cylinder right?
in theory yes the higher displacement would weigh less. but again it should be very minimal. we are talking about shaving only 1-2mm of material from each cylinder wall to increase the displacement 1 liter or more, that isnt gonna shed much weight. I still stand by my statement that they all should be within 10kg-10lb max at most.
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heres a link with some wiights, but they are all older, im guessing the 1995 and back inline 6 is not much different than the C36 I6(??) none of the M113 engines are on this list though.
http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/engineweights.html

very hard to find engine weights online apparently, but the Chevy LS is a very popular engine that is offered in 5.7 and 6.0 liter variations, online it seems the best numbers i can find is that the 6.0 is 450lb and the 5.7 is 457... but lots of variables there can change the numbers if they arent measured with the same components attached.
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I realize this is an older thread but someone will want this.

Weighed some parts separately. Came out to 413LB, 187Kg. with all accessories flywheel and fan. It really is a light weight engine.

Other data
M120 Engine 666.7# Included engine only all accessories, headers, flywheel and fan, no belt + engine stand end fitting.
SL600 Trans 722.6 169# Includes converter, cooling lines and dipstick tube, coverter lines and dipstick ~2Lb.
M117 Engine and Trans 661.4# Included engine and trans all accessories, headers,belt no fan or clutch
560 SL Trans 722.4 146.5# Includes Converter only M117 Engine 514.9# Derived subtracting Trans weight from Engine and Trans, Included engine and trans all accessories, headers,belt no fan or clutch
M113 Engine and Trans 585# Engine and Trans from 2001 SL500 M113 Engine only 413# Included engine only all accessories, headers, flywheel and fan



5.0 Liter M113 from 2001 SL500

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This is very good to know. I know the LS is so much better of a motor in the restomod world, but knowing an m113 with the transmission still attached weighs the same as an LS 5.3 truck motor alone is pretty interesting.

Makes me want to put a 5.4 M113 into a 1969 Dodge Dart.
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Also, did you drain all the fluids from that motor? An m113 has 16 lbs of oil and another 8 lbs of coolant in it.

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