Engine weight for M113 engines?
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Engine weight for M113 engines?
Where can I find information regarding techical data like engine weight (kilograms) and HP/NM numbers for different M113 AMG engines?
Engines which I need information for are these: 113944 - 113980 - 113986
Does 113980 engine differ a lot in weight versus C43 engine 113944 because of bigger displacement?
Engines which I need information for are these: 113944 - 113980 - 113986
Does 113980 engine differ a lot in weight versus C43 engine 113944 because of bigger displacement?
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00 C200 & 00 C55 & 06 SLK55
*5.4l (1,710kg) = (3,790lb),
*4.2l (1,640kg) = (3,615lb),
as i know;
*C43 torque is (302 lb-ft) at>>(3,250 - 5,000 rpm)
*E55 torque is (391 lb-ft) at >>(3,150 - 4,500 rpm)
ZAYED,,
*4.2l (1,640kg) = (3,615lb),
as i know;
*C43 torque is (302 lb-ft) at>>(3,250 - 5,000 rpm)
*E55 torque is (391 lb-ft) at >>(3,150 - 4,500 rpm)
ZAYED,,
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engine might be around 200KG's heavy?
my car has a registered weight of 1630KG + some extra weight from add ons
how much did c36 with I6 engine weight?
do both engines differ a lot in weight between cast iron VS aluminium?
my car has a registered weight of 1630KG + some extra weight from add ons
how much did c36 with I6 engine weight?
do both engines differ a lot in weight between cast iron VS aluminium?
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Where can I find information regarding techical data like engine weight (kilograms) and HP/NM numbers for different M113 AMG engines?
Engines which I need information for are these: 113944 - 113980 - 113986
Does 113980 engine differ a lot in weight versus C43 engine 113944 because of bigger displacement?
Engines which I need information for are these: 113944 - 113980 - 113986
Does 113980 engine differ a lot in weight versus C43 engine 113944 because of bigger displacement?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M113_engine
Checked around but couldn't find any precise figures. Estimates talk around the 130-150kg bracket
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Still would like to now the difference in weight between 4.3/5.4?
Since December I own a Carlsson Cm60 has a m113 that is a 6.0
To me it doesnt feel more nose heavy at all, Im surprised! Might be a bit heavier but not noticable!
Since December I own a Carlsson Cm60 has a m113 that is a 6.0
To me it doesnt feel more nose heavy at all, Im surprised! Might be a bit heavier but not noticable!
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im not an expert by any means, but if its the same engine block with different bore and stroke and maybe cams the weight should not be all that different. so the M113 C43, CLK55, and the 6.0 i would assume are all within maybe 20lbs/10kg maximum of each other?
somewhere in these forums there was a link to a post on some other site with tons of mercedes engine weights (just the engine), lots of old old engines. i do remember looking and finding that the 113 engine was something like 200lbs lighter than the I6 from the C36 due to the aluminum vs the cast iron block.
somewhere in these forums there was a link to a post on some other site with tons of mercedes engine weights (just the engine), lots of old old engines. i do remember looking and finding that the 113 engine was something like 200lbs lighter than the I6 from the C36 due to the aluminum vs the cast iron block.
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12' W204 C63 AMG coupe "T-Rex", 12' W451 Smart Fortwo Pulse (99' W202 C43 AMG sold)
im not an expert by any means, but if its the same engine block with different bore and stroke and maybe cams the weight should not be all that different. so the M113 C43, CLK55, and the 6.0 i would assume are all within maybe 20lbs/10kg maximum of each other?
somewhere in these forums there was a link to a post on some other site with tons of mercedes engine weights (just the engine), lots of old old engines. i do remember looking and finding that the 113 engine was something like 200lbs lighter than the I6 from the C36 due to the aluminum vs the cast iron block.
somewhere in these forums there was a link to a post on some other site with tons of mercedes engine weights (just the engine), lots of old old engines. i do remember looking and finding that the 113 engine was something like 200lbs lighter than the I6 from the C36 due to the aluminum vs the cast iron block.
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im not an expert by any means, but if its the same engine block with different bore and stroke and maybe cams the weight should not be all that different. so the M113 C43, CLK55, and the 6.0 i would assume are all within maybe 20lbs/10kg maximum of each other?
somewhere in these forums there was a link to a post on some other site with tons of mercedes engine weights (just the engine), lots of old old engines. i do remember looking and finding that the 113 engine was something like 200lbs lighter than the I6 from the C36 due to the aluminum vs the cast iron block.
somewhere in these forums there was a link to a post on some other site with tons of mercedes engine weights (just the engine), lots of old old engines. i do remember looking and finding that the 113 engine was something like 200lbs lighter than the I6 from the C36 due to the aluminum vs the cast iron block.
Always loved my c36, but im surprised with the weight of the M113
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am I crazy, or would the higher displacement engines weigh less than the 4.3l? the cylinder the decreased bore of the block would indicate that overall more alusil is present in that engine, and there is less alusil required to cast a 5.4l engine. increased bore = more air in each cylinder right?
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am I crazy, or would the higher displacement engines weigh less than the 4.3l? the cylinder the decreased bore of the block would indicate that overall more alusil is present in that engine, and there is less alusil required to cast a 5.4l engine. increased bore = more air in each cylinder right?
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heres a link with some wiights, but they are all older, im guessing the 1995 and back inline 6 is not much different than the C36 I6(??) none of the M113 engines are on this list though.
http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/engineweights.html
very hard to find engine weights online apparently, but the Chevy LS is a very popular engine that is offered in 5.7 and 6.0 liter variations, online it seems the best numbers i can find is that the 6.0 is 450lb and the 5.7 is 457... but lots of variables there can change the numbers if they arent measured with the same components attached.
http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/engineweights.html
very hard to find engine weights online apparently, but the Chevy LS is a very popular engine that is offered in 5.7 and 6.0 liter variations, online it seems the best numbers i can find is that the 6.0 is 450lb and the 5.7 is 457... but lots of variables there can change the numbers if they arent measured with the same components attached.
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I realize this is an older thread but someone will want this.
Weighed some parts separately. Came out to 413LB, 187Kg. with all accessories flywheel and fan. It really is a light weight engine.
Other data
M120 Engine 666.7# Included engine only all accessories, headers, flywheel and fan, no belt + engine stand end fitting.
SL600 Trans 722.6 169# Includes converter, cooling lines and dipstick tube, coverter lines and dipstick ~2Lb.
M117 Engine and Trans 661.4# Included engine and trans all accessories, headers,belt no fan or clutch
560 SL Trans 722.4 146.5# Includes Converter only M117 Engine 514.9# Derived subtracting Trans weight from Engine and Trans, Included engine and trans all accessories, headers,belt no fan or clutch
M113 Engine and Trans 585# Engine and Trans from 2001 SL500 M113 Engine only 413# Included engine only all accessories, headers, flywheel and fan
5.0 Liter M113 from 2001 SL500
Weighed some parts separately. Came out to 413LB, 187Kg. with all accessories flywheel and fan. It really is a light weight engine.
Other data
M120 Engine 666.7# Included engine only all accessories, headers, flywheel and fan, no belt + engine stand end fitting.
SL600 Trans 722.6 169# Includes converter, cooling lines and dipstick tube, coverter lines and dipstick ~2Lb.
M117 Engine and Trans 661.4# Included engine and trans all accessories, headers,belt no fan or clutch
560 SL Trans 722.4 146.5# Includes Converter only M117 Engine 514.9# Derived subtracting Trans weight from Engine and Trans, Included engine and trans all accessories, headers,belt no fan or clutch
M113 Engine and Trans 585# Engine and Trans from 2001 SL500 M113 Engine only 413# Included engine only all accessories, headers, flywheel and fan
5.0 Liter M113 from 2001 SL500
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This is very good to know. I know the LS is so much better of a motor in the restomod world, but knowing an m113 with the transmission still attached weighs the same as an LS 5.3 truck motor alone is pretty interesting.
Makes me want to put a 5.4 M113 into a 1969 Dodge Dart.
Makes me want to put a 5.4 M113 into a 1969 Dodge Dart.