PJmak

The only other key I have is a valet key and I still have to findit and try it. I guess thats worth a try but would a key cause missfires while driving?

PJmak

If the car is not fixabke Im gonna end up parting it out and wating around for a red c43 which is what I always wanted

KJI3jflarryfe93

i added some more info in my previous reply, CITAJ thoroughly!

PJmak

Thanks man. I still got a few things to troubleshoot until I feel like im stuck then if I have to ill seek out some help localy

cm60k

You doing good job, so far..,

no need to trail it to the andy's, as long as he starting to hump it,

unless if your mind already made-up..,

[---good challenge>beat the puzzle>>big smile---]

while it's cranking slowly, means; not enough Electric circuit to the starter solenoid..!

also, Ignition+fuel usually causes the car dies while running..!!

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PJmak

Ok guys so where is this ignition solenoid and is it specific to the vin? In other words....can I use the one of the parts car?

KJI3jflarryfe93

it's the part u insert your key to krank your car.
you can't use the other spare on your car, i think they are coded to each car

this shop in germany repairs EIS

http://www.tachopix.de/controlunit/n...sec.3/#article

i don't say your eis is screwed, but you have to rule out everything to find your issue

cm60k

I meant, starter solenoid that attaches to the starter motor assembly..,,

https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...3-starter.html

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PJmak

Damn that thing is buried :o


This going bad would cause misfires and force the car to shut down??

cm60k

Of course not, misfires & shut down are another thing,

have to solve non fire-up first, that's the main thing now, then misfires & shut down can be figure out easily..!

;ZAYED;

PJmak

But wouldnt the no start problem be related to the reason why the missfires occured and the car shut down ?

I know the car should still run and start with some missfires but what are the chances of another totaly unrelated issue occuring at the same time

cm60k

Sure, starting issues has a direct related to the misfires & shut down, but now the car completely shut-off,

something happened to ignition system,,

that's why i need you to diagnose the car after CPS..!

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cm60k

Don't want to be more confused,

but if you still have code "P0110", or any related,,

bad wiring harness or bad wiring insulation also could cause that,,

some of wires will married to each other..!?!?!

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PJmak

Ok Ill diagnose the car once the cps sensor is replaced.

I erased the codes last time and the battery has been disconnected multiple times so there probably arent any codes as of right now.

justinwrock

Hey PJ -

Is the starter cranking and turning the engine, or does the starter not crank the engine?

These are the steps I'd run through...

1) replace CPS (the G500 had something similar happen, CPS fixed it) If you have a spare cam position sensor, it might be worth it to swap that as well
2) check fuel at the fuel rail - on the passengers side closest to the front of the engine, there is a schraeder valve... pop it with a screw driver after turning the ignition to see if you have fuel
3) ohm out all of your spark plug wires and coils - see if there's any deviation. if testing out looks good, grab two spare wires and plugs and check to see if you get spark by unplugging injectors (dont wanna hyrolock your engine), hooking up both plugs to one coil pack then grounding those plug then cranking. you should see spark
4) assuming you have air (intake is clean), and you have fuel/spark, it should should fire up
5) if it doesn't fire, get a fuel pressure gauge and monitor the rail pressure while cranking. i can't remember what the M113 does, but it should drop a little as the injectors open - but if it drops too much, you have a fuel problem. if not...
6) compression test. if this and all of the above look good, potential exhaust problem. maybe bad cats?

hope that helps.

PJmak

Thanks man will check all of those things.

heres a video of the car attempting to start

cm60k

Good video,

seems starter & starter solenoid are fine..!,

when you put the key to position 2, is there a fuel in fuel rail..?

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PJmak

Yea theres a bit less than a qt left. Reserve is on but according to the scale there are a few gallons at least.

I hope its not out of fuel. I was thinking about adding a few gallons in just to be safe but the scale goes up as soon as the car is in ignition

cm60k

When you put the key in position 2, try to loosen the fuel rail hose (the nut attaches to fuel rail), and see if there is enough fuel pressure comes out..?

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PJmak

When I took that off to clean the injectors there was a little bit of fuel but the ignition wasnt on.

Ill try that and let you know

cm60k

Very important to check that, it must be enough pressure goes to fuel rail,

{--55psi = 3.8bar--}

*if there are not that enough pressure, it will be an issue with:-

"fuel pump/fuel pump relay/fuel regulator/fuel vacuum line"

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DRBC43AMG

Looking and hearing the video, I have a feeling that the engine is not turning fast enough. Battery??
However the other areas mentioned should also be checked with fuel pressure first perhaps.

PJmak

Hopefully ill be able to get the cps bolt out with this.

PJmak

Battery voltage measures fine and I tried a different battery too.

Ill test the alternator I put in too even tho it was fine last time it ran.

Imhoping its just the cps. Should know by the end of today when I get back home

DRBC43AMG

Good choice. Those extraction sockets are great!