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C36 amg - ride/drive feel (heavy), but such a beauty

Old Mar 14, 2017 | 03:33 AM
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C36 amg - ride/drive feel (heavy), but such a beauty

Hey guys,

i'm quite new and just bought a 97 c36 amg in vancouver, canada. Just loved the looks of the car. i've driven a lot of cars mostly on standard transmission (e46 m3, e46 330ci, civic sir, 240sx). This c36 amg is my first auto big purchase.

One question i'm having is that the car feels so heavy that even when you put an auto in neutral, car doesn't feel like it's coasting/gliding... i'm thinking it's just because of the monstrous weight? Further, when even coasting in gear, it just feels the car is slowing down too much and not gliding. Do all c36 amgs do that? I'm thinking it should glide especially when your going downhill with the weight.. sorry for such silly question and thanks for your help/thoughts. Or it may be something else? The feeling i'm trying to say (although ironic) is that it feels like a big powerful bus...!! Thx so much again for your help/thoughts!

Kim

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Old Mar 14, 2017 | 03:36 AM
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An old MAF made my C43 feel slow. Feels like a completely different car with the new one.
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Originally Posted by k7326546
Hey guys,

i'm quite new and just bought a 97 c36 amg in vancouver, canada. Just loved the looks of the car. i've driven a lot of cars mostly on standard transmission (e46 m3, e46 330ci, civic sir, 240sx). This c36 amg is my first auto big purchase.

One question i'm having is that the car feels so heavy that even when you put an auto in neutral, car doesn't feel like it's coasting/gliding... i'm thinking it's just because of the monstrous weight? Further, when even coasting in gear, it just feels the car is slowing down too much and not gliding. Do all c36 amgs do that? I'm thinking it should glide especially when your going downhill with the weight.. sorry for such silly question and thanks for your help/thoughts. Or it may be something else? The feeling i'm trying to say (although ironic) is that it feels like a big powerful bus...!! Thx so much again for your help/thoughts!

Kim
I would NOT recommend you coast your auto transmission in 'N' Not good for the innards

And also welcome to the "nut-house"

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Old Mar 14, 2017 | 04:03 AM
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Can't seem to post my car pic! but i saved one in my album! Thanks for the intro to forum!

Yes, for sure no coasting in auto.. bad habit..

But the car even on drive when it supposed to coast, still feels like a bus... a powerful one! Slows down too much..

It's probably just this car, or ... all c36 amgs? It's obvious i didn't own a c36 before but such a beautiful car

Thanks so much!

Kim

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Old Mar 14, 2017 | 04:13 AM
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yeah sorry forgot to mention do not coast in neutral in these cars. you will screw up the trans.

buy yourself a can of MAF cleaner (or if you cant find it, then try electrical cleaner), clean up the MAF really good. Give your airbox and airfilters a cleaning too and if that solves your problem then you know you'll need a new MAF soon.

Bad MAF will make your car sluggish and also behave badly in all other types of ways too.
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Old Mar 14, 2017 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mickey13
yeah sorry forgot to mention do not coast in neutral in these cars. you will screw up the trans.

buy yourself a can of MAF cleaner (or if you cant find it, then try electrical cleaner), clean up the MAF really good. Give your airbox and airfilters a cleaning too and if that solves your problem then you know you'll need a new MAF soon.

Bad MAF will make your car sluggish and also behave badly in all other types of ways too.
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If you change the MAF go only for a Bosch part. Don't go for a cheap e-bay one as it will be a 99% rip-off. The Bosch or one obtained with the dealer will be more expensive, but you will have the peace of mind that it will work properly
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It shouldn't feel heavy it aint that heavy compared to lets say an E46. The characteristic you describe isn't normall.
It should coast just fine (when you decide to ignore that its bad for the auto).
Perhaps you can find a MB mechanic near you that is willing to test drive the car with you and do a good maintenance check. It should drive pretty beautifull I prefered the C36 over my friends 330CI (few years back). My car was riding on Vogtland springs and yellow Koni's (highly recommend this setup).
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Coasting in neutral wont harm the trans one bit... Where do you all come up with these things???

Sure, its pointless to do, but it wont damage anything. Id be interested to see factual evidence to prove otherwise...

The car should not feel like that, i would suggest you check a few items, starting with brakes to ensure there is no drag, check park brake is fully off when released, and check front caliper slides to be sure they are not sticking or gummed up.

That is what id consider the most likely cause.
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Old Mar 14, 2017 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by w202mylove
It shouldn't feel heavy it aint that heavy compared to lets say an E46. The characteristic you describe isn't normall.
It should coast just fine (when you decide to ignore that its bad for the auto).
Perhaps you can find a MB mechanic near you that is willing to test drive the car with you and do a good maintenance check. It should drive pretty beautifull I prefered the C36 over my friends 330CI (few years back). My car was riding on Vogtland springs and yellow Koni's (highly recommend this setup).

Where did you have the KONIs set to? I found that combo rediculously stiff.
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Where did you have the KONIs set to? I found that combo rediculously stiff.
To its hardest setting I liked it alot!
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Old Mar 14, 2017 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by w202mylove
To its hardest setting I liked it alot!
Fark that... I have mine set half turn from softest, and its still firm on Euro OEM springs.
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Fark that... I have mine set half turn from softest, and its still firm on Euro OEM springs.
haha I might be slightly crazy
But honestly I never thought it was too bad
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Old Mar 14, 2017 | 10:13 AM
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Guess you must drive billard surface roads otherwise you would loose a tooth or two
Certainly would, unless he is mistaken full hard for full soft...
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Certainly would, unless he is mistaken full hard for full soft...
Definitely not sir, maybe I should add it was my weekend car (driving in the eifel and sometimes on the Ring). Roads in Holland are pretty decent. It wasn't that bad I guarantee you.
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Definitely not sir, maybe I should add it was my weekend car (driving in the eifel and sometimes on the Ring). Roads in Holland are pretty decent. It wasn't that bad I guarantee you.
I might be a Police Officer, but you dont need to call me sir

Roads here are not that great, but yeah, with 1.5 turns from full soft and Vogtland springs it was unbearable.
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I might be a Police Officer, but you dont need to call me sir

Roads here are not that great, but yeah, with 1.5 turns from full soft and Vogtland springs it was unbearable.
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Owner's manual states not to coast in neutral except in case of emergency, it does not state exactly why but could be safety or design features.
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Originally Posted by w202mylove
To its hardest setting I liked it alot!
we both love Konis' set to the stiffest settings paired with Vogtland springs.
wudd never change that setting.
ride stiff all day long!
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Owner's manual states not to coast in neutral except in case of emergency, it does not state exactly why but could be safety or design features.

Which page?
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see the attached 1999 C Class Owner's Manual pages 63 and 64.


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Important !
Coasting the vehicle, or driving for any other reason with the selector lever in "N" can result in transmission damage that is not covered by the Mercedes-Benz Limited Warranty.

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Do not engage "N" while driving except to coast when the vehicle is in danger of skidding (e.g. on icy roads, see Winter driving Instructions in Index).
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Originally Posted by k7326546
Hey guys,

i'm quite new and just bought a 97 c36 amg in vancouver, canada. Just loved the looks of the car. i've driven a lot of cars mostly on standard transmission (e46 m3, e46 330ci, civic sir, 240sx). This c36 amg is my first auto big purchase.

One question i'm having is that the car feels so heavy that even when you put an auto in neutral, car doesn't feel like it's coasting/gliding... i'm thinking it's just because of the monstrous weight? Further, when even coasting in gear, it just feels the car is slowing down too much and not gliding. Do all c36 amgs do that? I'm thinking it should glide especially when your going downhill with the weight.. sorry for such silly question and thanks for your help/thoughts. Or it may be something else? The feeling i'm trying to say (although ironic) is that it feels like a big powerful bus...!! Thx so much again for your help/thoughts!

Kim
Hi Kim. Congrats on your purchase. If you don't mind me asking you, where did you purchase it from? Private sale or dealer? Thx
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