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Old 12-06-2017, 05:51 PM
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M113.144 c43 amg engine difference?

I got an seized engine in my C43 amg...Because of some parts of rubbergasket sucked into the oilpump intake and blocked oil transfer. You have any idea where it could came from?
ok it seems that this is what happend:
so i wonder what is the different on the engine M113 amg and normal M113 4.3l ? maybe i can move over parts from my c43 amg engine to normal 4.3L engine ?

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Originally Posted by Perchow
I got an seized engine in my C43 amg...Because of some parts of rubbergasket sucked into the oilpump intake and blocked oil transfer. You have any idea where it could came from?
ok it seems that this is what happend: https://youtu.be/Qui29hxTL6s?t=71
so i wonder what is the different on the engine M113 amg and normal M113 4.3l ? maybe i can move over parts from my c43 amg engine to normal 4.3L engine ?

Thanks!
I think just the heads and cams...?
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Originally Posted by Sulaco
I think just the heads and cams...?
Hm ok, i was hoping the head are same so i dont need to remove them,
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Originally Posted by Sulaco
I think just the heads and cams...?
Correct and probably valve springs too. I heard that the intake manifold was also worked upon, but not 100% sure. The intake does have a AMG stamp/label if I'm not mistaken which could be proof of it being different...

Checked on the EPC and have found that the w202 C43, w208 CLK55, w210 E55 use the same intake manifold starting with #A113 140 07 01 and later changed to #A113 140 07 01. The basic w208 CLK430 has the same intake part #s. That does not mean that AMG may not take the AMG engines and "breathed" upon the intake to improve flow without changing part id #s which would be somewhat weird for German engineering standards.

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Correct and probably valve springs too. I heard that the intake manifold was also worked upon, but not 100% sure. The intake does have a AMG stamp/label if I'm not mistaken which could be proof of it being different...
You mean exhaustheaders or engineheaders ?
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Intake manifolds
Exhaust is standard apart from specific rear muffler
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All M113's sharing the same intake manifolds,,

{--TAKE MY WORDS--}..

-;ZAYED;-
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oh man, all people says different things, soon i think only injectors and SW is different :P
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Originally Posted by cm60k
All M113's sharing the same intake manifolds,,

{--TAKE MY WORDS--}..

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what this guy said
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Originally Posted by mickey13
what this guy said
Yes so what is difference???
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https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...ml#post6888508

From MBUSA first press release on the C43
Priced at $52,750, the mid-size C43 features a modified version of the new-generation V8 engine from the full-size E430 sedan. With higher-lift modular camshafts and a freer-flowing intake and exhaust system, horsepower is boosted to 302 (up 10 percent over the standard 275 hp figure) for superb overall performance, including 0-60 mph acceleration of 5.9 seconds.

camshaft is different, intake system is different (intake manifold is not different) and exhaust system is different
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fyi, i think you will also have to swap over the fuel rail. that should be it though.
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Originally Posted by mickey13
fyi, i think you will also have to swap over the fuel rail. that should be it though.
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sorry. have an afterthought. why arent you just swapping in a 5.4? car will feel much better like it should.
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Originally Posted by mickey13
sorry. have an afterthought. why arent you just swapping in a 5.4? car will feel much better like it should.
I got the clk430 engine free from friend !

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Anyone knows if there really is none oilpressure sensor on this car?

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low oil warnung will illuminate on dash
you're safe
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Originally Posted by kowalski
low oil warnung will illuminate on dash
you're safe
Yes low oil warning maybe.
BUT it was low oilpressure that killed the engine, not low OIL.......

so no oilpressure warning on this cars?
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you can get VDO aftermarket gauges in ivory white, the same looks like your AMG dials.
VDO has 5 bar oil pressure gauges and other goodies, look on ebay and you will find

Carlsson has a cool custom fit

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where do you live? mercedes engines are really cheap in the us. you could probably pick up a 5.0 m113 for under 500. while its not the 5.4, its still better than the 4.3. and i think the 5.0 opens itself up to more modification than a 4.3.

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