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Old Apr 25, 2020 | 09:25 PM
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w202 max tire size on 18"

So I just picked up a set of 18" monoblocks for my c43. I know that the consensus on tires for 18/9.5 and 18/8.5 is 255/35/18 and 225/40/18, with some people running 265/35 in the rear. I'm trying to avoid buying $1k of new tires if possible, and the monoblocks (from w210 e55 amg) are currently wearing almost brand new ATS Achilles Sports. Has anyone tried to run tires over those suggested sizes? I'm debating just trying out the 275/35/18 and 245/40/18 and seeing what happens... and I'm running stock suspension. Let me know your thoughts! Thanks!
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Old Apr 26, 2020 | 12:03 AM
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Ive run 265 35s since i got the monoblocks. Itll rub if you are lowered but if not youll be fine.

Pic when it was slammed and later on when it was higher.








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Old Apr 26, 2020 | 05:53 AM
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Using a tyre size calculator the results show the following results. The first line is the standard OE 17" tyre as the base reference.

245/45/17 = 1971 mm circumference with sidewall height of 99mm
255/35/18 = 1996 mm circumference +1.2% and sidewall height of 89mm -10.3% over the 245/45/17 tyre
265/35/18 = 2019 mm circumference +2.4% and sidewall height of 94mm -5.1% over the 245/45/17 tyre
275/35/18 = 2040 mm circumference +3.6% and sidewall height of 97mm -2.6% over the 245/45/17 tyre

Keep in mind that your speedo will indicate a lower speed than actual speed so bear that in mind when speed limits apply.
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Old Apr 26, 2020 | 02:35 PM
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@PJmak is it still lower than stock in that second set of pics? Assuming it is lower than stock in both those, I feel like I might be able to get away with 275/35 in the back at stock height.

@DRBC43AMG speed limits, what’re those lol? but thank you for those conversions!

I’m most concerned about the fronts rubbing when turning if I run 245/40 up there. Any thoughts? Thanks
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Old Apr 26, 2020 | 09:17 PM
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I'm curious as to why you want to run such a wide tire?
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 05:07 AM
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Bigger wheels/tires than 17 inch slows down the vehicle.
18 inch should be ok but not bigger than that
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 08:15 AM
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@JohnnyRock the monoblocks came with new tires installed on them, but those tires are from a w210 E55. I don't want to buy new tires if I don't have to, so I'd prefer to just run the larger tires that the rims came with.

@MattCordell think a 245/40 rubs up front when cornering/turning tho?
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JK_AMG
@JohnnyRock the monoblocks came with new tires installed on them, but those tires are from a w210 E55. I don't want to buy new tires if I don't have to, so I'd prefer to just run the larger tires that the rims came with.

@MattCordell think a 245/40 rubs up front when cornering/turning tho?
w202 never had 245's up front.
will definatelly rub on tire inner shoulder.

it's cool having wide rims and tires, but it will slow your car down coz rims are heavier!
if your car is lowered, or having a very low profile on tires?
if you dislike harsh ride?
you will hate it!


most tires will rub if you go wider, recommended size is 225 front and 255 rear.
looks dope with this set up on 8,5/9,5 inch wheels.

wider tires up front which sticks out from wheel well will also cause damage to paint on your fenders as rocks and sand will sand blast your fenders.
think about this what could happen?



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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 11:25 AM
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@MattCordell i'm not overly concerned about losing a few tenths of a second on a quarter-mile from +150lbs. Plus I'll be swapping a 5.5L w/ headers and a tune in the near future so that should offset any wheel weight Car is at stock height on stock suspension tho. That's a good point about rocks and debris kicking into my fenders as a result of the wider tires, i didn't think about that. I may just try and run 275/35 in the rear then and buy a new set of 225/40 for the fronts. I guess spending $500 on tires right now is better than $1000... I'll throw the 18's on this week and report back
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Originally Posted by JK_AMG
@MattCordell i'm not overly concerned about losing a few tenths of a second on a quarter-mile from +150lbs. Plus I'll be swapping a 5.5L w/ headers and a tune in the near future so that should offset any wheel weight Car is at stock height on stock suspension tho. That's a good point about rocks and debris kicking into my fenders as a result of the wider tires, i didn't think about that. I may just try and run 275/35 in the rear then and buy a new set of 225/40 for the fronts. I guess spending $500 on tires right now is better than $1000... I'll throw the 18's on this week and report back
happy hunting finding good tires for a good price
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MattCordell
w202 never had 245's up front.
will definatelly rub on tire inner shoulder.

it's cool having wide rims and tires, but it will slow your car down coz rims are heavier!
if your car is lowered, or having a very low profile on tires?
if you dislike harsh ride?
you will hate it!


most tires will rub if you go wider, recommended size is 225 front and 255 rear.
looks dope with this set up on 8,5/9,5 inch wheels.

wider tires up front which sticks out from wheel well will also cause damage to paint on your fenders as rocks and sand will sand blast your fenders.
think about this what could happen?
I run 255 up front 265 in the rear and it doesn't rub on the inside. After I lowered my car itll rub a little on the outside but I haven't seen anything on the inside
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 03:52 PM
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Ive seen 285s on the front of a c43 on 17 inch wheels. was slightly lowered not dumped like mine was
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 04:49 PM
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@brad_c43 that's what i wanted to hear!... in that case then i might as well try the 245 up front!

@PJmak i have to think that i'll be ok with 245 if im sitting at stock height then. All good news, looks like i may not need different tires after all! I'll report back with some pics once i get a chance to swap the wheels this week.

Thanks for the help all!
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 06:09 PM
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I run 255 up front 265 in the rear and it doesn't rub on the inside. After I lowered my car itll rub a little on the outside but I haven't seen anything on the inside
all brands have different construction, some tires will rub others won't.
your fronts do they stick outside the fenders?
do you have any paint damage?

if it works with 255 up front then cudos!

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Originally Posted by JK_AMG
@brad_c43 that's what i wanted to hear!... in that case then i might as well try the 245 up front!

@PJmak i have to think that i'll be ok with 245 if im sitting at stock height then. All good news, looks like i may not need different tires after all! I'll report back with some pics once i get a chance to swap the wheels this week.

Thanks for the help all!
if you're okay with a little work, I know of a guy who has a 55k swap running 315 in the rear and his setup doesn't rub
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MattCordell
all brands have different construction, some tires will rub others won't.
your fronts do they stick outside the fenders?
do you have any paint damage?

if it works with 255 up front then cudos!
no paint damage from tires, I run pilot sport 4s all around and I use my car harder than most people here would feel comfortable with. They dont stick out but it's a nice fitment
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Originally Posted by brad_c43
if you're okay with a little work, I know of a guy who has a 55k swap running 315 in the rear and his setup doesn't rub
That I would love to see
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Originally Posted by brad_c43
no paint damage from tires, I run pilot sport 4s all around and I use my car harder than most people here would feel comfortable with. They dont stick out but it's a nice fitment
If it works with wider tires up front wonder why factory only put 225 up front instead of 245 or wider?
Probably was a cost issue or something?

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Originally Posted by MattCordell
If it works with wider tires up front wonder why factory only put 225 up front instead of 245 or wider?
Probably was a cost issue or something?
Less stress on the suspension components and bearings perhaps? Not forgetting unsprung weight
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Stock US C36/C43 cars are raised looking like 4x4, perhaps these cars won't rub in front using wider tires.
Upper control arm with ball joint that pokes out towards the inner shoulder of the tire should clear any rubbing if used 245 or 255 tires up front?
However?
Lowered cars should probably face rub issues using wider tires than 225?
Or am I wrong?
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Originally Posted by MattCordell
If it works with wider tires up front wonder why factory only put 225 up front instead of 245 or wider?
Probably was a cost issue or something?
Probably b/c the engineers knew exactly what they were doing and bigger isn't always better. MB engineers factor in function not just aesthetics...which is all subjective anyway. There was very little in the way of cost savings on these AMG 202s if you look at the original MSRP.
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Originally Posted by brad_c43
if you're okay with a little work, I know of a guy who has a 55k swap running 315 in the rear and his setup doesn't rub
Haha that's wild. Well now I know that i'll definitely clear with 275s!
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Haha that's wild. Well now I know that i'll definitely clear with 275s!
my 255 in the rear rubs a little and my rims are ET35.
some tires will rub others probably won't.

test fitting, trial n error, this is what you will be doing.
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Originally Posted by MattCordell
my 255 in the rear rubs a little and my rims are ET35.
some tires will rub others probably won't.

test fitting, trial n error, this is what you will be doing.
how low is your car?
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how low is your car?
dropped on stock H&R springs and #1 pads all around.
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