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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 07:50 PM
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C43 Instrument Tested - 0-60 in 4.1

Looks like car and driver got the car to 60 way quicker than expected.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-mercedes-amg-c43-coupe-test-review
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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 08:23 PM
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The harsh ride is terrible.. I have the 19s and switched to non runflat continental dws06 and it's not much better..debating on going to 18s but not sure him much softer that will be for the money
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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 09:22 PM
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If the Coupe does 0-60 in 4.1 seconds, then what about the sedan that weighs 200 lbs less??

It could be 4 seconds flat!
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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 09:24 PM
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my son told me about this today - impressive.
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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 09:54 PM
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That's half a second, I'm surprised it's by that much? What tires was it running? Was it on a regualr road? Or was it on a track? These thigns matter!!
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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 10:08 PM
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If you go to the review page, the tires (and a bunch of other information) are clearly listed in the Test Sheet - Pirelli P-Zero run-flats. Scroll down on the right-hand side to find the link for the Test Sheet.
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 12:02 AM
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Its .3 seconds quicker than c450 with the 7 speed auto and about 1 mph quicker down the 1/4mile. Quite impressive gains with the 9 speed.
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 02:29 AM
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That must be mistake or its ecu tuned, it won't go 4.1 to 60mph stock
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Gungaslow
The harsh ride is terrible.. I have the 19s and switched to non runflat continental dws06 and it's not much better..debating on going to 18s but not sure him much softer that will be for the money
We have Dunlop Sport Maxx RT's as factory fit and the ride is just about right, our UK roads aren't great either. We came from a Z4 with factory BMW run flats which had a terribly crashy ride in comparison to our C43.

Still debating lowered springs, H&R or KW, but don't want to completely ruin the ride characteristics.
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 06:09 AM
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That must be mistake or its ecu tuned, it won't go 4.1 to 60mph stock
Perhaps you should contact C&D
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 08:45 AM
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awesome. sedan should be even faster
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 09:06 AM
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There is a German facebook site, where members can post 100-200km/h Racelogic Performance Box Times. Quite a few C43 were posted - and some owners even provided 0-100km/h times (0-62mph). All of them were below 4.3s - on a normal street surface and not a prepped track! Best car was as low as 4.0s (0-62!). The C43 is as quick as the C63S off the line up to highway speed, that is for sure!
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 09:47 AM
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C&D (and other mags) use a 1' roll-out so that acceleration times between cars they've reviewed are consistent. The problem is you can't compare that time to a time that didn't use a 1' roll-out, and Mercedes doesn't state the conditions for their listed times.

The 1' roll-out time can be up to 0.3s faster than the same acceleration test without the roll-out. If Mercedes didn't use roll-out in their measurement, or just simulated the value and padded it to be safe, that might explain the half-second discrepancy.
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by GordonGEICO
C&D (and other mags) use a 1' roll-out so that acceleration times between cars they've reviewed are consistent. The problem is you can't compare that time to a time that didn't use a 1' roll-out, and Mercedes doesn't state the conditions for their listed times.

The 1' roll-out time can be up to 0.3s faster than the same acceleration test without the roll-out. If Mercedes didn't use roll-out in their measurement, or just simulated the value and padded it to be safe, that might explain the half-second discrepancy.
ah, wasn't aware of that they use roll-out.
As far as Merc spec - seems like they use 2 pedal start for it, as it is very consistent with their specs
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GordonGEICO
C&D (and other mags) use a 1' roll-out so that acceleration times between cars they've reviewed are consistent. The problem is you can't compare that time to a time that didn't use a 1' roll-out, and Mercedes doesn't state the conditions for their listed times.

The 1' roll-out time can be up to 0.3s faster than the same acceleration test without the roll-out. If Mercedes didn't use roll-out in their measurement, or just simulated the value and padded it to be safe, that might explain the half-second discrepancy.
This is true, car and driver is more on the aggressive side for acceleration times. Wait until motortrend tests the c43 and to get a better overall view of how fast the car is. Its definitely faster than Mercedes claim though, as the c450 ran 0-60 in 4.4/4.5 area in many tests (quicker than what Mercedes claimed). The c43 with it's 9 speed will be quicker than the c450 by a few tenths.
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Gungaslow
The harsh ride is terrible.. I have the 19s and switched to non runflat continental dws06 and it's not much better..debating on going to 18s but not sure him much softer that will be for the money
I am about to switch to non-rubflat all seasons as well. You didn't see much of a difference?

Is there a difference between the sedan and coupe when it comes to ride harshness?
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 12:26 PM
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ah, wasn't aware of that they use roll-out.
As far as Merc spec - seems like they use 2 pedal start for it, as it is very consistent with their specs
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...nce-of-rollout
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 03:35 PM
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Nooch
I am about to switch to non-rubflat all seasons as well. You didn't see much of a difference?

Is there a difference between the sedan and coupe when it comes to ride harshness?
I did not notice any difference in ride harshness between both body styles: Same wheelbase, same brakes, suspension and tires.

I have gone trough the process: went from oem 19 to 18 forged wheels saving 10lbs per corner. I then replaced the run flats with Michelin pilot super sports non runflats.

it transformed the car. Quicker, much comfier and I got rid of the crashing harshness. I can only suggest you explore lightweight 18 inches wheels and non runflats. While the cost are real and hefty at 4000 for a set of forged wheels, it provides acceleration, braking, handling and comfort benefits.

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Originally Posted by AMG_FVR
If the Coupe does 0-60 in 4.1 seconds, then what about the sedan that weighs 200 lbs less??

It could be 4 seconds flat!
sorry the weight difference is 60lbs more for the coupe. Sedan weight 3834lbs.

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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 08:24 PM
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sorry the weight difference is 60lbs more for the coupe. Sedan weight 3834lbs.

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More Exterior Dimensions

Overall length 185.1 inOverall height 56.3 inOverall width 71.3 in (without mirrors)
Wheelbase 111.8 inCoefficient of drag 0.32Curb weight 3,759 lbs.

I also found a site that shows the sedan weight at 3727 lbs. None of my search came up with 3834 lbs for the sedan.
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 08:40 PM
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More Exterior Dimensions

Overall length 185.1 inOverall height 56.3 inOverall width 71.3 in (without mirrors)
Wheelbase 111.8 inCoefficient of drag 0.32Curb weight 3,759 lbs.

I also found a site that shows the sedan weight at 3727 lbs. None of my search came up with 3834 lbs for the sedan.
i found the motorweek test weighting in the sedan at 3697lbs or so. I am basing my judgment on the c&d test of the c450 which is pretty much the same thing as the c43 amg (minus the 9speed vs 7speed trans). I preferred using both c&d tests to compare Apples to Apples. Ultimately 70lbs (3900 vs 3830) is not usual as a weight penalty for the coupe. If we look at handling and braking, the skidpad and braking test favor the coupe (163 vs 158 feet for braking and 0.93 vs 0.95 on the skidpad).

sorry it sounds like I'm bench racing but I keep track of all of that. Lol

I would say the c43 amg coupe with light forged wheels and MPSS on 18 inches wheels would probably be the best awd light(er)weight platform currently available...in coupe form. With seated and cooled seats, the performance exhaust, new 9 sod trans and a strong ttv6, it is a lot of car for the money. With the lightwheels set, it would probably clock 3.9 to 4 in 0-60 and 12.6 to 12.7 on the 1/4 mile...not bad at all. 😎

I would rate the awd system as equal to the Quattro and symmetrical awd from Subaru so it does give you a lot of confidence...and grip.

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i found the motorweek test weighting in the sedan at 3697lbs or so. I am basing my judgment on the c&d test of the c450 which is pretty much the same thing as the c43 amg (minus the 9speed vs 7speed trans). I preferred using both c&d tests to compare Apples to Apples. Ultimately 70lbs (3900 vs 3830) is not usual as a weight penalty for the coupe. If we look at handling and braking, the skidpad and braking test favor the coupe (163 vs 158 feet for braking and 0.93 vs 0.95 on the skidpad).

sorry it sounds like I'm bench racing but I keep track of all of that. Lol

I would say the c43 amg coupe with light forged wheels and MPSS on 18 inches wheels would probably be the best awd light(er)weight platform currently available...in coupe form. With seated and cooled seats, the performance exhaust, new 9 sod trans and a strong ttv6, it is a lot of car for the money. With the lightwheels set, it would probably clock 3.9 to 4 in 0-60 and 12.6 to 12.7 on the 1/4 mile...not bad at all. 😎

I would rate the awd system as equal to the Quattro and symmetrical awd from Subaru so it does give you a lot of confidence...and grip.

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I say 4.1 seconds 0-60 whether coupe or sedan is great. The 4matic awd system is great as well. I'm not sure if it's on par with Audi's Quattro tho.

But now we're just splitting minor differences.
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Originally Posted by CanadianLP
sorry the weight difference is 60lbs more for the coupe. Sedan weight 3834lbs.

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Per Mercedes the C43 Sedan without pano roof weighs in at 3,759 lbs and the C43 Coupe with the standard pano roof weighs 3,935 lbs and that's a difference of 176 lbs.

Sedan is bound to be faster given the parity of all mechanical bits.
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Originally Posted by OC6.3AMG
Per Mercedes the C43 Sedan without pano roof weighs in at 3,759 lbs and the C43 Coupe with the standard pano roof weighs 3,935 lbs and that's a difference of 176 lbs.

Sedan is bound to be faster given the parity of all mechanical bits.
2017 DOG states c43 sedan at 3727


coupe weighs a considerable amount more being based off the cab.
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