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Old 10-26-2018, 09:02 AM
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8.5, +40 is what I have, no problems at all.
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8.5, +40 is what I have, no problems at all.
+40 in the front? On a C450/43? What tires?
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Yes, I actually have 8.5", +40 all around so yes, the front as well. 2018 C43.
I'm currently on the stocks in the front, I think 225/40/19. Fits without a spacer but
I run a 10mm to bring it out more flush. There are no problems with spacers though,
unless you are tracking your car, don't worry to much about them, there are good quality
ones out there and I've used them for years with absolutely no problems.
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Originally Posted by CClement
Yes, I actually have 8.5", +40 all around so yes, the front as well. 2018 C43.
I'm currently on the stocks in the front, I think 225/40/19. Fits without a spacer but
I run a 10mm to bring it out more flush. There are no problems with spacers though,
unless you are tracking your car, don't worry to much about them, there are good quality
ones out there and I've used them for years with absolutely no problems.
I have a hard time believing that at full lock, etc. that et40 wouldn't still have issues.

But, obviously - if it does work it's because of the stretched tire (compared to this set-up). The extruding nub on the arm is tire height, rim lip comes in a bit lower. Also, rim lips are different depending on wheel.

@tmoney There are plenty of suggested and working sizes. To go against the grain seems silly to me is you want a daily driver. You could also shave the hub on the et25's if you're not married to that wheel fitment (not sure what agreement you have with shop helping you). That way no spacer would be necessary.
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Originally Posted by CClement
Yes, I actually have 8.5", +40 all around so yes, the front as well. 2018 C43.
I'm currently on the stocks in the front, I think 225/40/19. Fits without a spacer but
I run a 10mm to bring it out more flush. There are no problems with spacers though,
unless you are tracking your car, don't worry to much about them, there are good quality
ones out there and I've used them for years with absolutely no problems.
So, I’m confused... you’re on +40 all around but you’re using 10mm spacers? That would effectively put you at +30 then... Unless, you started at +50 and added the spacers after. Are you definitely sure about your setup?
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I have a hard time believing that at full lock, etc. that et40 wouldn't still have issues.

But, obviously - if it does work it's because of the stretched tire (compared to this set-up). The extruding nub on the arm is tire height, rim lip comes in a bit lower. Also, rim lips are different depending on wheel.

@tmoney There are plenty of suggested and working sizes. To go against the grain seems silly to me is you want a daily driver. You could also shave the hub on the et25's if you're not married to that wheel fitment (not sure what agreement you have with shop helping you). That way no spacer would be necessary.
Thanks for your tips Alex! I'm leaning towards a 5mm spacer to bring the final offset to et30 to eliminate my rub at full lock. I was told as long as we can slide a sheet of paper through the wheels and control arm at full lock then we're good?

I have absolutely no objections to using spacers but the shop does advise strongly against it, which I think is a bit ironic because they went ahead and fitted me wheels with a 5x4.5 lug with a 72.5mm bore and had to use hub rings to fit the wheel. Not sure as why they would be against spacers but not hub rings. Also, they told me they redrilled the 5x4.5 lugs on the wheels to fit my 5x112 hub. It's a bit confusing why they would want to do all that but advise against spacers lol.

Only reason why I'm not objecting to their crazy plans is because theyve been in the biz for awhile, i have a working relationship with them (I print their apparel and uniforms), and lastly, the wheels came out great except for the slight rub at full lock. I even took the car on a 200mile joy ride and hit up to 140mph on the NJ turnpike and wheels were steady.

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Update: Went back to the shop to switch out the 3mm spacers with 5mm. Gained some much needed gap btw the tire and the control arm however, after I left the shop, I realized that I'm getting road vibrations at 75mph+ and gets progressively worse the faster I go. I also develop this popping and grinding sound when turning my wheel lock to lock. Perhaps these last two 5mm spacers they happen to find laying around the shop are warped or do you guys think it's because the lugs are too short as theyre still using the factory equivalent sized lugs after installing the 5mm spacers?

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If you look closely at the control arm nub, you can see the slight rub I was getting just at the bottom of that protrusion.

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This interior wheel photo was taken at full lock, looks like a healthy gap and should not rub at all..so 19x8.5 et30 is perfect for the front of these cars. But now, I just have to solve the road vibrations from either bad spacers or lugs being too short :/
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Originally Posted by tmoneyC450amg
Update: Went back to the shop to switch out the 3mm spacers with 5mm. Gained some much needed gap btw the tire and the control arm however, after I left the shop, I realized that I'm getting road vibrations at 75mph+ and gets progressively worse the faster I go. I also develop this popping and grinding sound when turning my wheel lock to lock. Perhaps these last two 5mm spacers they happen to find laying around the shop are warped or do you guys think it's because the lugs are too short as theyre still using the factory equivalent sized lugs after installing the 5mm spacers?

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If you look closely at the control arm nub, you can see the slight rub I was getting just at the bottom of that protrusion.

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This interior wheel photo was taken at full lock, looks like a healthy gap and should not rub at all..so 19x8.5 et30 is perfect for the front of these cars. But now, I just have to solve the road vibrations from either bad spacers or lugs being too short :/
Don't quote me but I believe ET30 required new lugs for most wheels...
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So, I’m confused... you’re on +40 all around but you’re using 10mm spacers? That would effectively put you at +30 then... Unless, you started at +50 and added the spacers after. Are you definitely sure about your setup?
Yes, I'm absolutely sure. I have Velos signature S1s that I custom ordered for my last car. Had I ordered custom for the c43, I wouldn't have went with this setup but yes +40 then a 10mm spacer. I'm also lowered on h&r VTFs.
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Originally Posted by tmoneyC450amg
Update: Went back to the shop to switch out the 3mm spacers with 5mm. Gained some much needed gap btw the tire and the control arm however, after I left the shop, I realized that I'm getting road vibrations at 75mph+ and gets progressively worse the faster I go. I also develop this popping and grinding sound when turning my wheel lock to lock. Perhaps these last two 5mm spacers they happen to find laying around the shop are warped or do you guys think it's because the lugs are too short as theyre still using the factory equivalent sized lugs after installing the 5mm spacers?

Attachment 418344
If you look closely at the control arm nub, you can see the slight rub I was getting just at the bottom of that protrusion.

Attachment 418343
This interior wheel photo was taken at full lock, looks like a healthy gap and should not rub at all..so 19x8.5 et30 is perfect for the front of these cars. But now, I just have to solve the road vibrations from either bad spacers or lugs being too short :/
without hub centric spacers the wheel should be mounted with a wheel mount bolt/tool as there is very little OE hub to mount the wheel on. I would also get longer lugs for the spacer. I have ran 5mm spacers without issue but not all wheels, etc. are created equal. General rule of thumb is to get 6 full rotations of seating on the bolt.
Old 10-29-2018, 11:55 AM
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Yes, I'm absolutely sure. I have Velos signature S1s that I custom ordered for my last car. Had I ordered custom for the c43, I wouldn't have went with this setup but yes +40 then a 10mm spacer. I'm also lowered on h&r VTFs.
In that case you are at +30 offset, which we know works for the fronts.... +40 will not. Try taking out the 10mm spacers you have, I guarantee your front wheels will not turn.
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Quick update: 5mm spacers do not work. Will be getting 3mm placed back on and will most likely opt to go for the 19x8.5 et42 wheels in 5x112 and 66.56mm bore size and ultimately pair it with 12mm spacers.

Will have to call shop tomorrow and hopefully sort this out, the shop's decision to use a 19x8.5 et35 with a 72.6mm wheel bore and 5x4.5 lug pattern machined to become 5x112, made absolutely no sense, they only did so thinking that et35 would not require any spacers (as they are completely against the use of spacers) but going to a et35 with 72.6mm bore will require not only a spacer but also a hub centric ring to fit the wheel, which completely goes against their first objective and some.

If I had to do it over again, I would have just ordered a replacement OEM front wheel and called it a day. This is too much of a headache lol
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Question for those that have more experience than me in the wheels/tires...

Have a 19 C43 on order and since it'll be almost winter when it gets here was looking for some wheel and tire sizes for a winter set up?

Don't need anything fancy, could even be the same width front and rear. What would anyone recommend as a no fuss size/offset/tire size etc for not needing any spacers? Also does anyone have suggestions for decently priced/tough wheels for some WV winters?

Thanks!

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Many threads already on this topic. Go with OEM 18" or 19" fronts all-around. You can find that information right here on the first page.
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Question for those that have more experience than me in the wheels/tires...

Have a 19 C43 on order and since it'll be almost winter when it gets here was looking for some wheel and tire sizes for a winter set up?

Don't need anything fancy, could even be the same width front and rear. What would anyone recommend as a no fuss size/offset/tire size etc for not needing any spacers? Also does anyone have suggestions for decently priced/tough wheels for some WV winters?

Thanks!

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If you want, I have a set of the OEM 18s 5 spokes for sale for your winter setup
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If you want, I have a set of the OEM 18s 5 spokes for sale for your winter setup
And I have tires for sale, Conti Procontact gx ssr listed in the classifieds for 300 but buyer pays shipping. PM me if you are interested as I am willing to work out a number.
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Thanks for the offers and suggestions guys. I think I'm going to put snows on stock wheels and go aftermarket for summers. I'm sure I'll be back with more questions. Thanks for the help to everyone who's posted in here!

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Originally Posted by JasonGinWV
Thanks for the offers and suggestions guys. I think I'm going to put snows on stock wheels and go aftermarket for summers. I'm sure I'll be back with more questions. Thanks for the help to everyone who's posted in here!

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Does that mean a staggered winter setup? I am awaiting a 19 C43 coupe as well and was debating doing a stick setup for winter. But I understand that it’s hard to find and also can be pricey. Let me know if you make any progress please!

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Originally Posted by tmoneyC450amg
Quick update: 5mm spacers do not work. Will be getting 3mm placed back on and will most likely opt to go for the 19x8.5 et42 wheels in 5x112 and 66.56mm bore size and ultimately pair it with 12mm spacers.

Will have to call shop tomorrow and hopefully sort this out, the shop's decision to use a 19x8.5 et35 with a 72.6mm wheel bore and 5x4.5 lug pattern machined to become 5x112, made absolutely no sense, they only did so thinking that et35 would not require any spacers (as they are completely against the use of spacers) but going to a et35 with 72.6mm bore will require not only a spacer but also a hub centric ring to fit the wheel, which completely goes against their first objective and some.

If I had to do it over again, I would have just ordered a replacement OEM front wheel and called it a day. This is too much of a headache lol
This is what I felt happened with the C43 - The C400/C450 were not popular so they needed to come up with something attractive, they didn't want to redesign everything so they shoved AMG suspension into this car with the same body as C400 which probably *just* fit, so that's why our front has limited wheel options.

Problem with generic spacers are, they are not hub-centric to your wheel, you'll probably need to use a hub-centric ring on top of that, it becomes too many things stacked on top and you might get bad/loose fitment.

Luckily for the BBS option that I purchased, they have a BBS part that is hub-centric to the wheel hub and has the standard hub-centric fit to their wheels. The quality and fitment is spot on, no rubber rings, everything is machine aluminium.

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Any pics out there of OEM 19" wheels plus spacers and wider tires?
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Does that mean a staggered winter setup? I am awaiting a 19 C43 coupe as well and was debating doing a stick setup for winter. But I understand that it’s hard to find and also can be pricey. Let me know if you make any progress please!

Thanks
Yup. Being in southwest WV we have snow but usually only a few really bad days a year. I'll be getting stock sized all-seasons. Leaning towards Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS or Continental extremecontact DWS06. These both have good snow reviews so should do well with still being good in dry/wet. Those both will run about 700-780 USD for a set of 4.

Then I'll have several months to finalize summer wheels. Leaning towards chan1011's BBS setup he has at the moment in black!

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What are the largest tires we can fit on OEM multispoke (AMG studio)? What kind of spacer would be needed to make it flush? I cant seem to find anything in this thread... Any help would be great.
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Originally Posted by MarcusDubya77
What are the largest tires we can fit on OEM multispoke (AMG studio)? What kind of spacer would be needed to make it flush? I cant seem to find anything in this thread... Any help would be great.
would not recommend larger tires as the OEM spec is about as large of a tire you can fit on the 7.5/8.5 widths. You can spec a better more performance oriented tire like the PS4S which is a bit wider for the same spec and much grippier.

I would run 5/10mm spacers front and rear, respectively.
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would not recommend larger tires as the OEM spec is about as large of a tire you can fit on the 7.5/8.5 widths. You can spec a better more performance oriented tire like the PS4S which is a bit wider for the same spec and much grippier.

I would run 5/10mm spacers front and rear, respectively.
Oooh...I wasn't thinking too dramatic. More like +10mm over stock F&R.
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Originally Posted by MarcusDubya77
Oooh...I wasn't thinking too dramatic. More like +10mm over stock F&R.
You can do that if you're lowered, but stock ride height on 19's max I would go in the rear is 12mm.

front will have issues the second you go over 5mm because those small of spacers are not hub centric, and 10mm (when hubcentric comes back into play) is just borderline too much, IMO.



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