C43 drifting in the snow [YouTube]
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Hmm....At times the front are spinning (obviously they are never going to behave like the rear that gets twice the duty) pretty good but, it seems like a lot of the time they weren't doing much at all. Weird. Maybe this is the part of 'Traction Control' that says active even when you disable it with the button on the center console? Because I've heard that even when you turn it off, it's still not completely off.
Also, I notice that they seemed to spin mostly when the wheels were pointed forward and they were just kinda along for the ride the more they were turned. Am I seeing that right? In my head that seems like it would make sense as it would help the front hold traction and the back end can spin out and oversteer you to the right angle where you straiten out the wheel and then all 4 wheels engage and you're gone!
I wanna do some "field research" on this but we haven't had any snow in Utah for a few weeks
Also, I notice that they seemed to spin mostly when the wheels were pointed forward and they were just kinda along for the ride the more they were turned. Am I seeing that right? In my head that seems like it would make sense as it would help the front hold traction and the back end can spin out and oversteer you to the right angle where you straiten out the wheel and then all 4 wheels engage and you're gone!
I wanna do some "field research" on this but we haven't had any snow in Utah for a few weeks
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Sounds pretty beastly too. I'm thinking he's got BOV spacers bc all I hear are the turbos.
I haven't figured out how to fully disable the nannies on my c450. I just can't seem to get it raucous enough in the snow. I tried it a few times, then called it a day and jumped in the Jeep.
I haven't figured out how to fully disable the nannies on my c450. I just can't seem to get it raucous enough in the snow. I tried it a few times, then called it a day and jumped in the Jeep.
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Sounds pretty beastly too. I'm thinking he's got BOV spacers bc all I hear are the turbos.
I haven't figured out how to fully disable the nannies on my c450. I just can't seem to get it raucous enough in the snow. I tried it a few times, then called it a day and jumped in the Jeep.
I haven't figured out how to fully disable the nannies on my c450. I just can't seem to get it raucous enough in the snow. I tried it a few times, then called it a day and jumped in the Jeep.
So C450 has 2 modes regular and off (off is equivalent to sport mode on the C43) and the C43 has 3 modes, regular, sport mode, and off.
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I would say the video is more a product of close quarters and low driver experience on how to properly modulate throttle in the snow for controlled slides. I can attest that when you press and hold the TC until it says off, it is OFF in the snow. I spent a 1/4 tank of fuel two weeks ago in a barrier/obstacle free mall parking lot sliding to my hearts content without any electronic nanny's slapping my wrist. I'll post something the next time we get enough snow on the ground here in Omaha.
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Just realize that dyno mode will turn off more than ESP. Not sure about the W205, but most MBs dyno mode also ditches the ABS, at least some of the power steering and the pre-crash safety items. Probably perfect if you want to go sliding in a snowy parking lot.
Less perfect if you are just looking for less aggressive intervention on a back country road.
Less perfect if you are just looking for less aggressive intervention on a back country road.
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Sounds pretty beastly too. I'm thinking he's got BOV spacers bc all I hear are the turbos.
I haven't figured out how to fully disable the nannies on my c450. I just can't seem to get it raucous enough in the snow. I tried it a few times, then called it a day and jumped in the Jeep.
I haven't figured out how to fully disable the nannies on my c450. I just can't seem to get it raucous enough in the snow. I tried it a few times, then called it a day and jumped in the Jeep.
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I was able to do some nice donuts by putting it in sport + and sport handling mode. I notice in sport handling mode the *** end will come around (fishtail) if i accelerate too quickly driving down a snowy road. Makes it feel like a rwd.
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Absolutely, it definitely feels like a rwd, just a little more "stabile". The *** comes out in the start when heavy on the throttle straight forward as well. Quite different than my 2016 C250d 4Matic.
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I would say the video is more a product of close quarters and low driver experience on how to properly modulate throttle in the snow for controlled slides. I can attest that when you press and hold the TC until it says off, it is OFF in the snow. I spent a 1/4 tank of fuel two weeks ago in a barrier/obstacle free mall parking lot sliding to my hearts content without any electronic nanny's slapping my wrist. I'll post something the next time we get enough snow on the ground here in Omaha.
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(video should start playing from 1:13, I am certain I am doing this correctly)
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But regardless of the fabulous Marissa Tomei... You're saying that the reason the front wheels varied input was due to posi-traction in the rear differential? Hmmm.... You're gonna have to educate me on that one, pal. 
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There isn't a limited slip diff on our cars and no center diff torque vectoring. The car is set to do 30/70 front to rear torque split and as per MBUSA "AMG Performance 4MATIC enhances grip and acceleration while preserving agility and driving fun". Instead of having a smart differential, the car uses computer trickery to tap the brakes on an individual wheel to get you out of trouble. No real LSD = limited fun.
