richardf

My 9k mile OEM Run-Flat continentals are among the worst tires I have ever owned and the front ones will only last for another 3k miles and ride as if they have 40k miles. I have the 19" rims 225/40 and 255/35 - I was considering the Michelin Pilot Sport 4s (run flat) and Pilot Sport A/S 3+ (non run flat but better in cold mornings). MB drivers seem to have had good success with the 4s but I am not seeing positive words from MB drivers for the 3+. Is it the asymmetric pattern of the 3+ a problem? Ideally I wanted an all weather tire so was leaning towards the A/S 3+.. Are there strong recommendations for the C class AMG? Please don't reply if you have less than 5k miles on tires.

jonathan358

Tires are tires, they don't really follow car models unless you are super picky about an arbitrary "tread pattern."

Asymmetrical problems aren't a problem at all until you want to do rotations.

However, with the added bonus of a NON run-flat, I would definitely get the all-season. They are good tires.

Clint Westwood

Well I'm gonna respond because my BMW came with RFT and they sucked and I got rid of them ASAP. My C43 has less than 200 miles and if anyone wants to trade or buy them I'll be happy to get rid of the run RFT. All the top non RFT are pretty good, but the PS4 non-RFT is about the best, but no way would I replace them with RFT.

unr1

turismo1

Go with the MPSS 225/40 and 255/35 staggered set up, great tires, or the Michellin PS4s
Or Pirelli Pzero

richardf

jonathan358

Yes.

Mr. J

Been running MP AS3+ on mine and have been very happy with them. Summer performance is as good or better than the stock Contis and they provide great traction in cold and wet conditions including light snow and ice. They are wearing much better than the Contis. I have been swapping them, running the Contis from May-Oct and running the AS3+ the rest of the year.

One thing I really prefer about the AS3+ over the Contis is that with the AS3+ you can feel when you're approaching the limit of grip for the tires. Whereas, with the Contis you feel as though you have plenty of grip right up to the point that you don't.

richardf

Mr. J - This was exactly what I was looking for and really appreciate your insight. I was concerned that the 3+ could be too rough or too loud on concrete (according to reviews). How many miles do you have on the AS3+? For the respondents who suggest the PS4 - do you have experience with the AS3+ and know that there is a concern or 2?

Mr. J

I've had the AS3+ for about 18 months and they've been mounted for about 13 of 18. Not sure about mileage probably, 6-8k.
They aren't noisy for a performance tire. I would not put them on a luxo barge like an S class or a Lincoln since neither need performance tires and there are quieter touring tires available. I find the AS3+ to generate about the same amount of road noise as the stock conti runflats. The AS3+ provide a slightly less harsh ride but this was not a dramatic difference from the stock tires.

I have one of these in the trunk in case of punctures.

This kit costs more than the cheapos but the compressor is very high quality and can air up a tire in a fraction of the time it takes for most of these. It also has an adapter to use either std 12v vehicle socket or alligator clips to attached direct to the 12v battery and ground.

If you choose the MPSS you may need to consider winter driving conditions. The MPSS are not suitable for any snow and ice and will lose traction and wear prematurely if you run them in sub freezing temps. Obviously this is only an issue if the car is a DD in the winter and you live someplace that actually has winter weather. But if you do, then you'll need another set of Winter tires for the cold months.

I'm in Western Oregon. The winters are fairly mild here with temps rarely getting below 20F and snowfall usually less than 2 weeks a year and rarely accumulating over 4". The AS3+ run fine in these conditions, the MPSS will not. If I lived in an area with harsher winter weather I'd go with dedicated Winter and Summer tires (most likely Blizzak and MPSS).

FirstMBAMG

Seanhfx

I replaced the RFT Contis with 3+ - no problems here. For A/S tires, it's either these or the Conti DW6's, probably can't go wrong with either.

richardf

For SEANHFX - How many miles are on your AS3+ - I am a spirited driver and suspect the tires are good for that too. I just am trying to get a sense of wear versus the MPS4S (Pilot Sport 4S).
With the 4 WD and cold mornings I am a bit reticent to go with the 4S if the AS3+ last longer (which they are rated for) and handle nearly as well which they seem to do. Again the asymetric tread should be fine with a mismatched tire size but the complaints of extra road noise on concrete concerned me a bit (that was expressed by some owners).

Seanhfx

14,000 kms or almost 9,000 miles, no real wear 9/32nds. I'm spirited driver as well and the only reason I got these over the Supersports/4s's is because of colder weather. If you have weather near freezing and don't have winter tires, then the 3+ is the way to go. My Audi A4 had the A/S 3's with 25k kms on them and still had 7 or 8/32nds left but not staggered, car was daily driver with spirited city driving.

"With the 4 WD and cold mornings I am a bit reticent to go with the 4S" - This is what swayed my decision over the 4's. The A/S 3/3+ will last longer than the supersports/4s

richardf

Exacly what I needed to know.. I will get them .. thanks

Mbershod

I have 6500 miles on my 2017 C43. This was a manager demo that I leased back in July that had 2700 miles on it. Numerous issues caused the car to be back in the shop, noticed that the tire pressures were off so I made the dealer do a balance. This was in Dec, car had 4600 miles on it. Now with less than 2, 000 more miles the fronts are both worn on the outside, rears are like new. I have owned a BMW M3, Porsche Boxster S and 911, never had this issue. Dealer just wants to sell me 2 tires. Waiting to hear back from MB corporate.

C43NME

alexasa

iTrader: (1)

ran hankook ventus v12 evo2's for over 20k

very good wear, sidewall is a bit soft and they ran a bit weird on concrete roads. But great durability.

calpilot98

2017 c43 here as well that I just bought with Eagle 1 asymmetric 3 runflats.....ride is so harsh! thinking about replacing them with some Conti DWS ....had those on my previous Audi S5 and was happy.

RichardCranium3

I swapped in AS3+'s on my fronts once the Conti RFT's were toast after 14k miles. No road noise issues, good grip in wet and performance conditions. Rears are lasting way longer (24k miles now)...will be replacing at 30k with AS3+'s on the rear as well. If you're in a climate with a snow, these are a capable AS tire. No snow, no question...get the PS4's.

Another note because it's incorrectly stated at the start of this thread....Asymmetrical tires CAN be rotated side to side, directional tires cannot.

merlin3008

If anyone is looking for a set of OEM tires for the 19" wheels, let me know. I'm switching them out for AS since I'm in Chicago and cold and snow are inevitable.

hamzazoom

Hi, I might be interested in the tires? how much do you want for the whole set? how about the front 2?

Cosworth2000

Go to a good alignment show and remove the MB negative camber to help make your tires last longer.

mo11

Rdlink

My winter setup.