Cars are not made there for us. We don't get anything lower than a c300 and our wages are paid decently no matter how menial the position. So your point - whatever that is - does not apply.

Not the poster you're responding to, and please pardon me because I'm just a dumb American with a Juris Doctor, but I'd like to inform you that all of the U.S.-bought C43s are built in Alabama. Along with the GLE and GLS.

but the line workers do not make the seats.... they just install them and have nothing to do with how well or crappy they work.

Apparently if you’re not American you can’t understand that for the price Mercedes charges for their vehicles and their upgrade packages, they should be able to get something as easy as ventilated seats correct. Vehicles that cost 20k have descent seats ffs.

That’s exactly the point lol.

Specifically, the sedans are. The coupes and cabriolets are built in Bremen, Germany. For the fact that this fellow is insulting others for not knowing how car's are built, he doesn't seem to understand that the chassis and body are largely welded, bolted and put together by robots. The same robots that put together the E and S bodies and chassis. In fact MB is now building a new assembly line in Sindelfingen where the same line can produce different models, C, E, S classes coming off the same line in the future. Traditionally they used to have dedicated lines for each model, but that resulted in certain lines having to be shut down if a model wasn't selling well. Humans only do final assembly such as installing complete modules such as the dash, interior trims, seats, lights etc., but they don't make any of those as somebody else mentioned. These things get delivered to the line and then installed. Everything including the robot assembly adheres to strict internal quality guidelines. Where you can have difference between the plants is the attention to detail. The line workers are supposed to point out if something doesn't look right, but that requires a critical eye. The Germans are known to be detail oriented and generally see if something is crooked, but not all cultures are as detail oriented. Other differences can result from environmental regulations, for example the paint used in German plants is different from the paint used in US plants. Perhaps a factory tour might be educational for some.

Well said.

My German-made W204 C63 had a fit and finish that was slightly superior, in some respects, to my Alabama-built W205 C43 sedan.

C-Class sedan production will be ending in the U.S. in the fourth quarter of 2020. https://www.autonews.com/sales/no-ro...s-make-c-class

AGREE! I just drove home in my C43 Cab and activated the "ventilated' seats and ASSUMED they were similar to Infiniti QX60's. The QX blows out snowflakes and the MB just circulates the air? BAD DESIGN and misleading.....

I suppose it's a matter of perspective, but compared to the Lexus IS350 I just got rid of my '19 C43 coupe ventilated seats seem to work very well actually. I usually start out on the highest setting and often have to turn them down.
The Lexus seats (although the leather was much softer than the C43's) did not cool well at all imo and were pretty much useless. I feel the C43s ventilated seats cooling effect kick in as soon as I turn them on.

That being said I also have the Auto/AC on pretty high as well when I'm using them. If I were to just try to cool my tukas with the seats and without the climate control on high may be a entirely different result.

Wow - so much anger... mine was built in Bremen BTW... not south africa.

And you might think it is a cheap car, but the entire professional car world see it as a luxury car - even if it is built in South Africa, which you seem to think is a bad thing somehow. Also, everything important apart from the basic chassis and some interior panels are different on the two. Engines, entire drivetrain, suspension, stiffening, fuel tank, exhaust system, brakes, bumpers and spoilers, dash and door panels, seats, standard equipment etc. Some can be ordered for the lower models, but then it isn’t a 30k car anymore, now is it?

Anyway, if the cars are so similar, why did you put all that money in a C43 if you believe a C160 is just as good.

ps.: fabric means the stuff you make clothes from - what you are talking about is a FACTORY.

First of all, I live in Arizona, so this is a pretty useful and important feature. I own a 2019 E450 coupe and a 2020 Mazda CX5. The Mazda has ventilated seats and the fans are way more powerful than the E450 seat fans. On level 3 in the Mazda you can actually feel the air shooting out of the seat all around you. Of course changing to the lower settings you can actually feel a difference in the level of air coming out (crazy). I wouldn't call the E450 ventilated seats useless, but they could be much much more powerful especially for such an upscale model within Mercedes lineup.

C43 was out since, what, 2016? Ever heard of test driving a car?

I know its an old thread that was bumped. But what is pathetic is that people don't know how to use common sense.

2 year old thread.....

A 2 year old thread that is still applicable.
I test drove the vehicle and purchased it knowing that the ventilated seats weren't the best on the market. Because someone test drove a vehicle and bought it doesn't mean that people can't speak of aspects of their vehicle that they don't particularly like or think that the manufacturer could have done better. Especially given that there are lesser brands and cheaper vehicles that do this particular "luxury feature" better than a top luxury brand.

*didn't* test drive a vehicle and bought it

I think the best way to operate the vent seats is to direct the car AC to floor and direct the rear seat AC vents down towards the floors both on high

cool thread

I agree with the post.... MB ventilated seats worse in the industry. I will never own another MB... I have three now.