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Went to order a new C43 sedan yesterday and the salesman told me it is now replaced with the C53. Didnt know that was going to happen but glad the dealer was honest as i don't want to buy a superseded model new.
Went to order a new C43 sedan yesterday and the salesman told me it is now replaced with the C53. Didnt know that was going to happen but glad the dealer was honest as i don't want to buy a superseded model new.
this is misinformation. i personally know people with 2020 orders.
There is no C53 for the current generation. Nothing to that extent has been announced and AMG has previously said it'll have to wait for the next generation.
The 2020 order guide still has the C43, now with new available options from the C63 such as the AMG Drive Unit
My understanding is that the C53 is the W206 version, modelyear 2021 , due next summer.
So technically he is not all wrong, but one year early.
MB has not made anything official yet though, so things might change yet.
MB has published zero info on 53 models beyond E, CLS, (last info 2018) and GT most recently. I wouldn't trust a sales rep any farther than I can throw him to have breaking news on next-gen C-class info. No one is attacking you, only your dealer.
Complete misinformation. The W205 generation C Class will not recieve the new in line 6 engines from the 53 series. It will keep the M276 V6. The W205 replacement will almost certainly have a the In line 6 & 48Volt ISG though.
My understanding is that the C53 is the W206 version, modelyear 2021 , due next summer.
So technically he is not all wrong, but one year early.
MB has not made anything official yet though, so things might change yet.
Exactly , but a different model year is a bit different from a totally new model / chassis code.
I've ordered a 2020 C43 and according to the Dealer here in Canada, there is only minor changes in terms of packages from 2019/2020. It is still the same model
Dealers/salesmen can be pretty uninformed. I had to tell the guy who sold me my 2019 C43 coupe that the facelift came with a bump in horsepower from 362 to 385. Like others have said, the C53 will be the next generation which is projected to come out 2021/2022.
PFL205.064 with M276.823 (Oil pump solenoid defeated)
Looks like there are finally news on the overdue C 43/C 53/C 45 depending on what they ended up calling it, initially planned to be announced during IAA this year but was pushed back. https://www.carscoops.com/2021/12/20...but-next-year/
Looks like there are finally news on the overdue C 43/C 53/C 45 depending on what they ended up calling it, initially planned to be announced during IAA this year but was pushed back. https://www.carscoops.com/2021/12/20...but-next-year/
Good find, seems like it could be an interesting car.
Complete misinformation. The W205 generation C Class will not recieve the new in line 6 engines from the 53 series. It will keep the M276 V6. The W205 replacement will almost certainly have a the In line 6 & 48Volt ISG though.
No, no, no, the w205 replacement being the w206 C53 or C43 will be a 4 cylinder from the A45s. Enjoy the 6 in the current model before it loses 2 cylinders.
Highly doubt it will be the hand crafted 4 cylinder. I would imagine it's going to be a35 engine with a hybrid supercharger added or otherwise.
it's about time there is some fresh news though. My lease is up soon and have been waiting for this. Currently have an order in on the cla45 just in case I can't extend, etc. current lease long enough.
PFL205.064 with M276.823 (Oil pump solenoid defeated)
Ya, I believe the W206 C 53/C 43/C 45 will have the M254 like the regular models in the W206 lineup just boosted even more. The W206 C 63 will get the M139.
Nah, no way the 43 (if continued) is getting the A35 engine because it would sit well below the A/GLA/CLA 45. Only reason the current 4-cyl has higher hp than the 6-cyl is because the M276 is old. IMO:
43 - M139
53 - M139 with EQ Boost
63 - M139 with EQ Boost and AC Induction Motor on front axle
All of those setups will be detuned for the C-class, with the same drivetrain in the E-class minus the detuning. The S and GTs will keep their V8s.
Last edited by jonathan358; 12-21-2021 at 10:05 AM.
Reason: clarification
I am still sad that there will not be a coupe or cabriolet C Class (at least not in the US). Either way, a 4 cyl cranking out that much HP sounds like a recipe for an explosion to me. Has anyone heard anything more detailed about the supposed CLE Coupe/Cab for 2023 - will there be an AMG variant? Powertrain?
PFL205.064 with M276.823 (Oil pump solenoid defeated)
Originally Posted by AMGiggity
if they call it C53 it'll probably be i6 with some sort of mild hybrid?
That would be great but if they are putting a 4-cylinder in the C63 (which they are) I am guessing the numbers doesn't mean anything anymore. Since the C 63 is a getting a 4-cylinder I wouldn't get my hopes up for the C 53 to get anything more than 4.
Almost all models are going to a twin turbo 4cyl unless you love Honda civics I would suggest trying to ****** up something quick. The sedan 2022 and 2023 is going to be a 4 cyl twin turbo. The coupe and convertible will keep the 6 twin turbo for 2022 and 2023. After that everything is getting moved to hybrid 4cylinder. Miss the days of v12 and v8 engines but even the gt which is 140k plus will be a twin turbo 4cylinder. I just purchased a high option 2022 c43. They are hard to find In the US. 2022 are still in transit in and 2023 are almost impossible to find unless you want a base model w fake leather and red interior. If you're a true car guy it's gonna break your heart driving a luxury car w amg badging with a 4cyl or a hybrid. I think once the bubble burst on this crazy high brid electric car fad that'll you will be stuck w a four banger. If you don't want a hybrid the c43 is your last chance for a while to own a merc twin turbo v6. So my suggestion is but now took me 4 months and a country wide search to find mine there were only two in the US for sale. No negotiation as they are aware on what's about to happen to Mercedes engines Good luck !!!
Almost all models are going to a twin turbo 4cyl unless you love Honda civics I would suggest trying to ****** up something quick. The sedan 2022 and 2023 is going to be a 4 cyl twin turbo. The coupe and convertible will keep the 6 twin turbo for 2022 and 2023. After that everything is getting moved to hybrid 4cylinder. Miss the days of v12 and v8 engines but even the gt which is 140k plus will be a twin turbo 4cylinder. I just purchased a high option 2022 c43. They are hard to find In the US. 2022 are still in transit in and 2023 are almost impossible to find unless you want a base model w fake leather and red interior. If you're a true car guy it's gonna break your heart driving a luxury car w amg badging with a 4cyl or a hybrid. I think once the bubble burst on this crazy high brid electric car fad that'll you will be stuck w a four banger. If you don't want a hybrid the c43 is your last chance for a while to own a merc twin turbo v6. So my suggestion is but now took me 4 months and a country wide search to find mine there were only two in the US for sale. No negotiation as they are aware on what's about to happen to Mercedes engines Good luck !!!
The M139 engined C43 is already out in Europe, it's a 2.0 single turbo not twin turbo. The upcoming CLE will also have that engine, not the M256 in line 6.
Yes same in the US but 2022 and 2023 coupe and comv trinkets models still have the 6 cylinder as far as I know 2023 models haven't even arrived here yet as 2022 models are still showing in transit.