C43 or C300? (expect to have baby)
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C43 or C300? (expect to have baby)
I am wondering if the C43 (coupe version) is too harsh a ride to have a baby onboard? Me and the wife probably want to have a baby within 2 years so I wonder if I should instead consider the C300 coupe instead; would like to see if anyone who has a C43 and a baby can share their experience.
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I’ve had a 2019 C300 loaner the past week, and there is almost no difference in ride quality between the C300 and my ‘18 C43 when both are in Comfort mode.
The C43 is nowhere close to the stiffness of my old W204 C63. That car was firm all the time.
The 2019 cars seem to have better damping, in general, and I don’t think you’ll have any trouble whatsoever unless the roads you’ll be commuting on are in absolute shambles.
The C43 is nowhere close to the stiffness of my old W204 C63. That car was firm all the time.
The 2019 cars seem to have better damping, in general, and I don’t think you’ll have any trouble whatsoever unless the roads you’ll be commuting on are in absolute shambles.
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I know I'm off topic, but why on Earth would you want to squeeze a car seat in and out of a coupe? What's the aversion to the sedan? Temporarily had to live the coupe car seat life years ago while my niece stayed with us when my brother and his wife were on vacation. You will regret this decision and your wife will hold it against you!
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I know I'm off topic, but why on Earth would you want to squeeze a car seat in and out of a coupe? What's the aversion to the sedan? Temporarily had to live the coupe car seat life years ago while my niece stayed with us when my brother and his wife were on vacation. You will regret this decision and your wife will hold it against you!
Coupe is doable, but accessing the car seat on a daily basis would be much, much easier in the sedan.
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'19 C43 AMG Coupe
I am wondering if the C43 (coupe version) is too harsh a ride to have a baby onboard? Me and the wife probably want to have a baby within 2 years so I wonder if I should instead consider the C300 coupe instead; would like to see if anyone who has a C43 and a baby can share their experience.
Regarding the c300 vs c43, I would ask your dealer to let you test both of them. You can also compare the sedan and coupe while you’re there.
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I know I'm off topic, but why on Earth would you want to squeeze a car seat in and out of a coupe? What's the aversion to the sedan? Temporarily had to live the coupe car seat life years ago while my niece stayed with us when my brother and his wife were on vacation. You will regret this decision and your wife will hold it against you!
I've seen most people who have a Coupe and a family with kids have a second car they use for transporting their kids or other family members. That could be another option if you're particular on the Coupe.
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Go with the C300, the C43 isn't all that powerful. It is more sound than anything, don't know if the wife and baby would enjoy that.
As others have said, the suspension in Comfort mode and with 18" tires is bearable. But that is not what the C43 is meant for. I find that with dampers on the lowest settings, the car is too floaty (in a bad way; feels improperly tuned) and it has to be in setting #2 to have any actual damping effect.
19" wheels will be quite harsh, not as bad as an M car but not pleasant.
Above all, the darty characteristic of the C43 is not the best for a smooth ride, the gear shifts are very rough and abrupt. When you get the infamous bunny-hopping, you will scare a turd outta your child inevitably.
Also, you do not want a coupe if you plan on using a baby seat in the back. 100%.
As others have said, the suspension in Comfort mode and with 18" tires is bearable. But that is not what the C43 is meant for. I find that with dampers on the lowest settings, the car is too floaty (in a bad way; feels improperly tuned) and it has to be in setting #2 to have any actual damping effect.
19" wheels will be quite harsh, not as bad as an M car but not pleasant.
Above all, the darty characteristic of the C43 is not the best for a smooth ride, the gear shifts are very rough and abrupt. When you get the infamous bunny-hopping, you will scare a turd outta your child inevitably.
Also, you do not want a coupe if you plan on using a baby seat in the back. 100%.
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I am wondering if the C43 (coupe version) is too harsh a ride to have a baby onboard? Me and the wife probably want to have a baby within 2 years so I wonder if I should instead consider the C300 coupe instead; would like to see if anyone who has a C43 and a baby can share their experience.
you shouldnt consider a coupe at all and get the sedan or a wagon lmao
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Go with the C300, the C43 isn't all that powerful. It is more sound than anything, don't know if the wife and baby would enjoy that.
As others have said, the suspension in Comfort mode and with 18" tires is bearable. But that is not what the C43 is meant for. I find that with dampers on the lowest settings, the car is too floaty (in a bad way; feels improperly tuned) and it has to be in setting #2 to have any actual damping effect.
19" wheels will be quite harsh, not as bad as an M car but not pleasant.
Above all, the darty characteristic of the C43 is not the best for a smooth ride, the gear shifts are very rough and abrupt. When you get the infamous bunny-hopping, you will scare a turd outta your child inevitably.
Also, you do not want a coupe if you plan on using a baby seat in the back. 100%.
As others have said, the suspension in Comfort mode and with 18" tires is bearable. But that is not what the C43 is meant for. I find that with dampers on the lowest settings, the car is too floaty (in a bad way; feels improperly tuned) and it has to be in setting #2 to have any actual damping effect.
19" wheels will be quite harsh, not as bad as an M car but not pleasant.
Above all, the darty characteristic of the C43 is not the best for a smooth ride, the gear shifts are very rough and abrupt. When you get the infamous bunny-hopping, you will scare a turd outta your child inevitably.
Also, you do not want a coupe if you plan on using a baby seat in the back. 100%.
+1, get the c43 sedan with the 18" wheels if you have a baby coming one day. change out the runflats and keep it in comfort or eco with baby. its plenty smooth. you wont get bunnyhopping trans if you keep in comfort or eco which always starts in 2nd gear. people that complain about the bunny hopping trans dont know how gear ratios work. 1st gear is for hauling a$$, not for driving around town with your kid in the car. My kid will be here in 5 months and I am glad I got the c43 sedan, AWD too. us dads can still have fun in a 4 door. plus when you are alone (of course), its fun to take all those coupes and sports cars from a dig with our AWD and see the look on their faces. people dont expect family sedans to be fast, so when you burn them its extra special.
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do you own a c43? isnt all that powerful? thats laughable. it does 4.2 0-60 stock. with a basic jb4 tune 3.6 0-60 is had all day. better brakes and suspension than c300. so i deem it safer with plenty of power.
+1, get the c43 sedan with the 18" wheels if you have a baby coming one day. change out the runflats and keep it in comfort or eco with baby. its plenty smooth. you wont get bunnyhopping trans if you keep in comfort or eco which always starts in 2nd gear. people that complain about the bunny hopping trans dont know how gear ratios work. 1st gear is for hauling a$$, not for driving around town with your kid in the car. My kid will be here in 5 months and I am glad I got the c43 sedan, AWD too. us dads can still have fun in a 4 door. plus when you are alone (of course), its fun to take all those coupes and sports cars from a dig with our AWD and see the look on their faces. people dont expect family sedans to be fast, so when you burn them its extra special.
+1, get the c43 sedan with the 18" wheels if you have a baby coming one day. change out the runflats and keep it in comfort or eco with baby. its plenty smooth. you wont get bunnyhopping trans if you keep in comfort or eco which always starts in 2nd gear. people that complain about the bunny hopping trans dont know how gear ratios work. 1st gear is for hauling a$$, not for driving around town with your kid in the car. My kid will be here in 5 months and I am glad I got the c43 sedan, AWD too. us dads can still have fun in a 4 door. plus when you are alone (of course), its fun to take all those coupes and sports cars from a dig with our AWD and see the look on their faces. people dont expect family sedans to be fast, so when you burn them its extra special.
And I am an automotive engineer, I know my gears. Comfort mode occasionally goes into 1st gear under specific circumstances and I have had the bunny hopping in 2nd gear too. It is not all driver induced either, badly programmed trans that does not allow for linear/gradual application. People say you need to "commit" when in 1st gear and apply full throttle but you should never do that anyway. But, I digress.
All I am saying is the transmission is too jerky as a family car amongst other reasons.
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Yes, I own a C43. It has a good 0-60 but it doesn't have that **** your pants feel like the C63 or equivalent. Even an Infiniti red sport is more powerful...
And I am an automotive engineer, I know my gears. Comfort mode occasionally goes into 1st gear under specific circumstances and I have had the bunny hopping in 2nd gear too. It is not all driver induced either, badly programmed trans that does not allow for linear/gradual application. People say you need to "commit" when in 1st gear and apply full throttle but you should never do that anyway. But, I digress.
All I am saying is the transmission is too jerky as a family car amongst other reasons.
And I am an automotive engineer, I know my gears. Comfort mode occasionally goes into 1st gear under specific circumstances and I have had the bunny hopping in 2nd gear too. It is not all driver induced either, badly programmed trans that does not allow for linear/gradual application. People say you need to "commit" when in 1st gear and apply full throttle but you should never do that anyway. But, I digress.
All I am saying is the transmission is too jerky as a family car amongst other reasons.
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Yes, I own a C43. It has a good 0-60 but it doesn't have that **** your pants feel like the C63 or equivalent. Even an Infiniti red sport is more powerful...
And I am an automotive engineer, I know my gears. Comfort mode occasionally goes into 1st gear under specific circumstances and I have had the bunny hopping in 2nd gear too. It is not all driver induced either, badly programmed trans that does not allow for linear/gradual application. People say you need to "commit" when in 1st gear and apply full throttle but you should never do that anyway. But, I digress.
All I am saying is the transmission is too jerky as a family car amongst other reasons.
And I am an automotive engineer, I know my gears. Comfort mode occasionally goes into 1st gear under specific circumstances and I have had the bunny hopping in 2nd gear too. It is not all driver induced either, badly programmed trans that does not allow for linear/gradual application. People say you need to "commit" when in 1st gear and apply full throttle but you should never do that anyway. But, I digress.
All I am saying is the transmission is too jerky as a family car amongst other reasons.
My ‘18 C43 has been in the shop for a while and I’ve had a ‘19 C300 loaner in the meantime. I could easily live with the C300. It’s slower, but the rest of the car doesn’t feel much different under normal driving conditions, except both the transmission and the suspension are better sorted on the C300.
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Yes, I own a C43. It has a good 0-60 but it doesn't have that **** your pants feel like the C63 or equivalent. Even an Infiniti red sport is more powerful...
And I am an automotive engineer, I know my gears. Comfort mode occasionally goes into 1st gear under specific circumstances and I have had the bunny hopping in 2nd gear too. It is not all driver induced either, badly programmed trans that does not allow for linear/gradual application. People say you need to "commit" when in 1st gear and apply full throttle but you should never do that anyway. But, I digress.
All I am saying is the transmission is too jerky as a family car amongst other reasons.
And I am an automotive engineer, I know my gears. Comfort mode occasionally goes into 1st gear under specific circumstances and I have had the bunny hopping in 2nd gear too. It is not all driver induced either, badly programmed trans that does not allow for linear/gradual application. People say you need to "commit" when in 1st gear and apply full throttle but you should never do that anyway. But, I digress.
All I am saying is the transmission is too jerky as a family car amongst other reasons.
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Not to sound like an insecure 43 owner, but your above statement and original statement are just ridiculous and make absolutely no sense even within their own context. Regardless of vehicle.
I think you do not understand basic math concepts.
C300 = 245hp
C43 = 362hp
362-245 = 117hp
117/245 = 47.8%
C43 is nearly 50% more hp than C300 and does 4.0-4.5 secs to 60 stock
But "not that powerful" compared to C300 because a "redsport has more power" when a redsport has a lesser hp difference compared to c43 than a c43 does compared to c300. While both the redsport and the c43 accelerate at the same speed and figures.
"car is only good 0-60". you mean the car is fast were you spend 90% of your time?
I would like to see proof that you are an automotive engineer. Actually I would like to see proof that you are even over 14yrs old.
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Lol, calm down. Just my 2c.
I guess I made a mistake paying too high of a premium for the C43 to have all the options when I should have kept it closer to the base price where this car really shines in terms of performance-power.
Say what you want but I don't like the car that much. It is nowhere near a true sports car, not a great GT either due to its jerky nature.
OP take what you want from my comments, I just think a C300 will suffice until you move onto something bigger and better...
I guess I made a mistake paying too high of a premium for the C43 to have all the options when I should have kept it closer to the base price where this car really shines in terms of performance-power.
Say what you want but I don't like the car that much. It is nowhere near a true sports car, not a great GT either due to its jerky nature.
OP take what you want from my comments, I just think a C300 will suffice until you move onto something bigger and better...
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Lol, calm down. Just my 2c.
I guess I made a mistake paying too high of a premium for the C43 to have all the options when I should have kept it closer to the base price where this car really shines in terms of performance-power.
Say what you want but I don't like the car that much. It is nowhere near a true sports car, not a great GT either due to its jerky nature.
OP take what you want from my comments, I just think a C300 will suffice until you move onto something bigger and better...
I guess I made a mistake paying too high of a premium for the C43 to have all the options when I should have kept it closer to the base price where this car really shines in terms of performance-power.
Say what you want but I don't like the car that much. It is nowhere near a true sports car, not a great GT either due to its jerky nature.
OP take what you want from my comments, I just think a C300 will suffice until you move onto something bigger and better...
lmao ok bro
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Lol, calm down. Just my 2c.
I guess I made a mistake paying too high of a premium for the C43 to have all the options when I should have kept it closer to the base price where this car really shines in terms of performance-power.
Say what you want but I don't like the car that much. It is nowhere near a true sports car, not a great GT either due to its jerky nature.
OP take what you want from my comments, I just think a C300 will suffice until you move onto something bigger and better...
I guess I made a mistake paying too high of a premium for the C43 to have all the options when I should have kept it closer to the base price where this car really shines in terms of performance-power.
Say what you want but I don't like the car that much. It is nowhere near a true sports car, not a great GT either due to its jerky nature.
OP take what you want from my comments, I just think a C300 will suffice until you move onto something bigger and better...
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Yes, I own a C43. It has a good 0-60 but it doesn't have that **** your pants feel like the C63 or equivalent. Even an Infiniti red sport is more powerful...
And I am an automotive engineer, I know my gears. Comfort mode occasionally goes into 1st gear under specific circumstances and I have had the bunny hopping in 2nd gear too. It is not all driver induced either, badly programmed trans that does not allow for linear/gradual application. People say you need to "commit" when in 1st gear and apply full throttle but you should never do that anyway. But, I digress.
All I am saying is the transmission is too jerky as a family car amongst other reasons.
And I am an automotive engineer, I know my gears. Comfort mode occasionally goes into 1st gear under specific circumstances and I have had the bunny hopping in 2nd gear too. It is not all driver induced either, badly programmed trans that does not allow for linear/gradual application. People say you need to "commit" when in 1st gear and apply full throttle but you should never do that anyway. But, I digress.
All I am saying is the transmission is too jerky as a family car amongst other reasons.
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either is fine
I went from a C250(C300 in Australia) to C43, both 205 generation. C43 is an all together faster car, anyone who says differently really doesn't know how to get the best out of a car. However, back to the OP's question, either would be fine, just don't hoon with the baby on board. You will certainly regret getting a coupe though, baby seat in the back will drive you nuts and the wife will hate it!. I too an automotive engineer, though I design emergency response vehicles(ambulances etc), which gives no relevance to my opinions on performance cars. Being an automotive engineer doesn't make you a racing driver, nor lend weight to your arguments about which car is quicker than another, unless that's your speciality. If it were your speciality, you probably wouldn't have made such daft comments, which only go to weaken your argument.
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I am wondering if the C43 (coupe version) is too harsh a ride to have a baby onboard? Me and the wife probably want to have a baby within 2 years so I wonder if I should instead consider the C300 coupe instead; would like to see if anyone who has a C43 and a baby can share their experience.
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Me exactly few months after my first born! LOL. Life's over might as well get a car to enjoy~
I do drive the coupe alone most of the time. Took the family on a few road trips. It was fine. The kid loves the zipping and vroooming. Wouldn't want to go in and out with a kid on a daily, or even weekly, routine tho. Fu*king back breaker.
I do drive the coupe alone most of the time. Took the family on a few road trips. It was fine. The kid loves the zipping and vroooming. Wouldn't want to go in and out with a kid on a daily, or even weekly, routine tho. Fu*king back breaker.
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If you're an automotive engineer then you should know US and Japanese manf use SAE and Europe uses EEC for hp measurement. If you want to compare you have to take about 80hp off the SAE number. I test drove the red sport, it's no where near as peppy as a C43. Not to mention is has a cheap interior and is not in the same league as MB in refinement.
C43 has 385 bhp (i.e. 390 PS) whereas Infinity Q50 Red Sport has 400 bhp (i.e. 406 PS). I agree C43 is a better car overall, but at least as per the specs, Q50 Red Sport has more peak horsepower than the C43. The torque curves and range of RPMs where the peak horsepower is available could very well differ between the two.
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