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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 07:30 PM
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C43 tuning options comparison

Spreadsheet here. For any newbies doing their initial homework, I thought I'd share this as a good place to start.

* Information gathered from manufacturer websites (nothing scientific/verified here)
* Solution column includes hyperlink where information was found
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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 08:03 PM
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Don’t forget the Performmaster for facelift model https://www.performmaster.com/amg-c43s/
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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TModelle
Don’t forget the Performmaster for facelift model https://www.performmaster.com/amg-c43s/
Totally missed that. Thanks mate. Spreadsheet updated.
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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by batman719
Totally missed that. Thanks mate. Spreadsheet updated.
Awesome list. Thanks for the effort! It will come in very useful to many.
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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 10:29 PM
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I can tell you that OE stg 1 is advertised as you listed it, but from speaking with Jerry he says stg 1 is 50hp and 100tq, stage 2 gains were started to be 80-100hp, no tq figure in the emails I exchanged with him.
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Old Feb 17, 2020 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Matthew Cohen
I can tell you that OE stg 1 is advertised as you listed it, but from speaking with Jerry he says stg 1 is 50hp and 100tq, stage 2 gains were started to be 80-100hp, no tq figure in the emails I exchanged with him.
i had the OE and it was def no 80hp 120tq increase!

They sold it to me with that numbers!
almost didnt notice any difference, so changer to EC and that was a day and night difference!

So Jerry from OE is unreliable as f#%k, if he tell you the gain is only 50hp

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Thanks for contacting OE Tuning. The 2017 C43 AMG V6 Bi-Turbo is an amazing vehicle. From tuning on the dyno we typically see peak gains of +80Hp and +120Tq. Dynograph can be found here:***

so thrown away money with OE scamming
I never would advise them!

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Old Feb 17, 2020 | 03:59 AM
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This is in regards to me asking questions about stage 1

"Thanks for your email details. The C450 V6 Bi-Turbo is an amazing vehicle. From tuning on the dyno, we typically see peak gains of +50wHp and +100wTq."

"Stage2 must have catless downpipes installed and is +30-50Hp over Stage1 output. CEL removal with Stage2. You can always upgrade to Stage2 after initial purchase at a later date for $100."

Personally I have had no problems with them.
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Old Feb 17, 2020 | 09:50 AM
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Interesting that he quoted one of you Hp and the other wHp. @Petje thanks for sharing the feedback on your experience with them.
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Old Feb 17, 2020 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Matthew Cohen
This is in regards to me asking questions about stage 1

"Thanks for your email details. The C450 V6 Bi-Turbo is an amazing vehicle. From tuning on the dyno, we typically see peak gains of +50wHp and +100wTq."

"Stage2 must have catless downpipes installed and is +30-50Hp over Stage1 output. CEL removal with Stage2. You can always upgrade to Stage2 after initial purchase at a later date for $100."

Personally I have had no problems with them.
Does this imply that CEL will be lit with Stage1?
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Old Feb 17, 2020 | 09:59 AM
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Does this imply that CEL will be lit with Stage1?
With catless downpipes, yes. You need Stage2 if you run them.
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Old Feb 17, 2020 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by TModelle
With catless downpipes, yes. You need Stage2 if you run them.
I read the email differently; thanks for clarifying mate.
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Old Feb 17, 2020 | 11:42 AM
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Don’t forget the Performmaster for facelift model https://www.performmaster.com/amg-c43s/
They seem like the only people acknowledging a difference in the facelift models. Has anyone actually tried them in the US?
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They seem like the only people acknowledging a difference in the facelift models. Has anyone actually tried them in the US?
they wouldn't even sell me their lip being in the US... so probably not.
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Old Feb 17, 2020 | 06:55 PM
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they wouldn't even sell me their lip being in the US... so probably not.
I can't even get them to return my emails.
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For anyone wondering about the difference between JB4 vs. flash maps vs. all other tuning boxes: https://www.burgertuning.com/pages/faq
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Old Feb 17, 2020 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by batman719
Spreadsheet here. For any newbies doing their initial homework, I thought I'd share this as a good place to start.

* Information gathered from manufacturer websites (nothing scientific/verified here)
* Solution column includes hyperlink where information was found
Great info, nice work!!
What you mean by "Traceless" and "warrantied"
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Old Feb 17, 2020 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HighSun_Murder
Great info, nice work!!
What you mean by "Traceless" and "warrantied"
Ah, yes, I should clarify that.
* Traceless is meant to indicate that, according to the manufacturer, once removed, there is no evidence that the unit was ever installed on the car. This is not possible with ECU flash-based tunes as there will always be history of the flash, even if flashing back to stock (like in the gateway module, for example).
* Warrantied indicates that the manufacturer offers at least a 1-year engine warranty with their product.
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Updated. Added DME, Kleeman, and Velos.
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Old Feb 18, 2020 | 03:52 PM
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I don't see VF Engineering on the list.
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Old Feb 19, 2020 | 09:41 PM
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HD Tuning is worth a mention. I had heard of them before, but saw a video today on YouTube of a hyacinth red C43 coupe with a burble tune from them and it was the most nuts burble tune I've seen thus far. The comments said there was decent power gains too. Can't find the YouTube video . They're SoCal based and I'm reaching out to them for a quote/more info. WIll update after
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HD Tuning is worth a mention. I had heard of them before, but saw a video today on YouTube of a hyacinth red C43 coupe with a burble tune from them and it was the most nuts burble tune I've seen thus far. The comments said there was decent power gains too. Can't find the YouTube video . They're SoCal based and I'm reaching out to them for a quote/more info. WIll update after
Keep us posted!
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PEC Tuning-Module with power enhancement, Vmax delimiter price is 2268€ excl. VAT + shipping and customs.
Including a 2 years warranty on the PEC Tuning Module as well of course.

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