batman719

Does anyone have experience with this tune? Their US HQ is here in my town, but I'm not finding much by way of research of their product. I'm in contact with them for more information, but was hoping to hear from someone that may have first-hand experience with them.

waisoserious

A piggyback is a piggyback. Just get the BMS imo.

I do not see the point of a warrantied piggyback since you can just remove the unit before service anyways, which negates the dealers ability to void your warranty. So why pay extra for a piggyback that delivers less power?

BMS

BMS JB4 for the win. Proven results by customers all over the world.

https://www.burgertuning.com/collect...-mercedes-benz

Petje

I did 0-60 in 4 sec on my C400 with the Kleemann!

pm me if you are interested, i can have them for good prices

batman719

Folks with 2019+ C43s are having problems with JB4 causing hesitation/rough shifting. That's a no-go for me.

waisoserious

Folks with facelift 43's are having problems with literally everything.

batman719

I'm on a facelift 43 and having problems with literally nothing.

TModelle

Yeah it never ends.

waisoserious

What tune are you running?

threeMBs

OP does not run any.

waisoserious

Exactly... So him not having any issues on his stock car is kinda irrelevant isn't it?

batman719

Which is kinda why OP is asking questions before buying, isn't it? You came to this thread with zero input on my question other than touting a different solution. I pointed out the solution you were touting is having problems. Move along, troll, move along.

waisoserious

My point is if other more popular tuning options have issues with facelift 43s, then it is also likely that kleeman does as well.

Unless the KBox is only adding like 30 or 40 hp and you are fine with that cause that won't hit the threshold at which 19s start to have problems anyways.

​​​​So why pay more for a KBox with a warranty when both are piggybacks and you can just remove it before your service this not even needing the warranty.

Do you understand now Mr sensitive?

batman719

That's an assumption.

They're claiming 65hp, not 30-40hp.

First, I don't know why you keep talking about a warranty. I didn't say anything about a warranty. Second, to my knowledge, K-Box doesn't have a warranty, so is that another assumption you're making?

waisoserious

Then why would you pay extra for Kleeman over a cheaper option that has more support and more users? If not for the warranty?

Do you just enjoy paying extra money for lower gains?

waisoserious

Ok sure it's an assumption. So did you ask Kleeman if they have a facelift specific application?

batman719

Because even for less power and more cost, their solution, reportedly, is specific to Facelifts and doesn't suffer from hesitation/rough shifts. Which, again, is why I'm asking the question here to see if anyone has any first-hand experience that can verify this. Is that good enough for you, sweetiepie?

batman719

Yes. Anything else, sugarplum?

waisoserious

No I think I get it now. You want to pay extra for less power and still have no warranty on the product. This makes alot of sense.

batman719

Good, glad you finally got there.

waisoserious

Are you at all aware that the reason they are claiming it's smooth is because it only adds 40hp and you that you also ask for only 40hp from any other tuner? Including racechip and JB4? One of which has a warranty?

How much is the KBox just curious

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subzero05

exactly, I took my JB4 off a long time ago due surging and just weirdness, happy with my racechip choice but that's just me

batman719

Which Racechip did you go with? How long have you had it? What are you driving?

subzero05

went with the GTS version, I’ve had it ok there probably 7-8 mos now without any issue

batman719

on what car? you show a CL500 in your profile.