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Old Sep 7, 2020 | 06:21 PM
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Who follows the 10k mile oil change?

I have heard from a mechanic friend that has worked on cars for many years and he says 3500-5 k miles even on synthetic is better for longevity. The argument is that the engine can generally last for the warranty period with no issues even with the long intervals but problems may start to appear when the car is older and out of warranty. I'm on a eurocharged tune and drive my c450 quite spiritidely so probably 3500 miles / 4 months for me. What do you guys think? Am I being paranoid here?
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Old Sep 7, 2020 | 11:20 PM
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The manufacturer's suggested oil change duration is good for stock cars. The only variable would be if you get a tune, which changes some parameters. I'm not an expert but just wanted to add my opinion that you should get more information on this. If you are tuned, if you have bolt-ons, if you are running any ethanol mixtures, I think this would change things.
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Old Sep 7, 2020 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramsino
The manufacturer's suggested oil change duration is good for stock cars. The only variable would be if you get a tune, which changes some parameters. I'm not an expert but just wanted to add my opinion that you should get more information on this. If you are tuned, if you have bolt-ons, if you are running any ethanol mixtures, I think this would change things.
So would it be better changing the oil every 3k or 5k miles I'm tune and about to have all that other stuff you mention lol anyone I plan on keeping this car 😁👍🏻
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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 12:39 AM
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if running the vehicle harder than designed its probably better to change oil more frequent. one thing is for sure, it cant hurt to change more often.
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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 12:49 AM
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can't defy physics. If you drive your car harder than average, I believe oils should be changed more frequently. I don't trust OEM's and corporate decisions on thinking about the car enthusiasts, they are more worried about EPA standards, MPG etc. Most manufacturers will void your warranty if they found out you were at the track, other than very specific models.

I've always changed mine every 5k, Motul/liquidMoly/Redline and changed out the diff oil, been pretty lucky with my euro cars so far.
Which brands do you guys like here?
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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by c43PDX
can't defy physics. If you drive your car harder than average, I believe oils should be changed more frequently. I don't trust OEM's and corporate decisions on thinking about the car enthusiasts, they are more worried about EPA standards, MPG etc. Most manufacturers will void your warranty if they found out you were at the track, other than very specific models.

I've always changed mine every 5k, Motul/liquidMoly/Redline and changed out the diff oil, been pretty lucky with my euro cars so far.
Which brands do you guys like here?
I agree with you 100% my friend i have extended warranty for 7 years my car is brand new can I cancel this or it's to late mind you I barely have 1500miles 5 months of ownership sorry for the off topic? I said I was not going to touch this car but hey life is to short 🤦‍♀️😁😈
Oh wait I actually have everything covered *** me 🤦‍♀️😑😭🥺
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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 02:10 AM
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I change my oil every 5000kms and oil filter at 10k
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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 02:45 AM
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I change my oil every 5000kms and oil filter at 10k
I was wondering if this is something okay to do. Just drain the oil, fill it up with new oil but don't change the filter. This way it keeps costs down a bit and I can more easily do this at home without bringing the car in. I don't like messing with changing the oil filter because it gets messy. Then bring the car in every 10k or 1 year and get the complete oil change + filter change.
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I was wondering if this is something okay to do. Just drain the oil, fill it up with new oil but don't change the filter. This way it keeps costs down a bit and I can more easily do this at home without bringing the car in. I don't like messing with changing the oil filter because it gets messy. Then bring the car in every 10k or 1 year and get the complete oil change + filter change.
Ive got a vacuum pump which saves me a lot of time as it sucks it from the dipstick. No need to get under the car and remove covers etc. As for the oil filter it’s simple as it is on top so again you don’t have to get under the car.
It’s no mess no fuss. Takes about 30 mins total.
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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Star4life
if running the vehicle harder than designed its probably better to change oil more frequent. one thing is for sure, it cant hurt to change more often.
Yea, I think so as well.
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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by c43PDX
can't defy physics. If you drive your car harder than average, I believe oils should be changed more frequently. I don't trust OEM's and corporate decisions on thinking about the car enthusiasts, they are more worried about EPA standards, MPG etc. Most manufacturers will void your warranty if they found out you were at the track, other than very specific models.

I've always changed mine every 5k, Motul/liquidMoly/Redline and changed out the diff oil, been pretty lucky with my euro cars so far.
Which brands do you guys like here?
Agreed and am also leaning on more frequent changes. Always heard good things about liqui moly.
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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 08:17 AM
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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 11:01 AM
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Since I’m tuned I change my oil ever 3.5k in the summer to every 5K in the winter, I use either AMSOIL 5w40 European formula or Motul 8100 or sport 5w40, ester based oils are preferred for harsher driving and tuned cars but group 3 oils work
Decently as well personally not a huge fan of liqui moly What a trash oil
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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 04:25 PM
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Since I’m tuned I change my oil ever 3.5k in the summer to every 5K in the winter, I use either AMSOIL 5w40 European formula or Motul 8100 or sport 5w40, ester based oils are preferred for harsher driving and tuned cars but group 3 oils work
Decently as well personally not a huge fan of liqui moly What a trash oil
Thanks for sharing man. Why do you think liqui moly is trash? I've seen a lot of high performance shops advertise it. I need to do some research in this regard. What would you recommend for my c450 on a eurocharged tune and harsh driving? The general consensus seems to be that the manufacturer suggested intervals are ok for sensible driving. Spirited city driving would cut that time, not sure by how much though? I have heard claims that city driving in stop and go traffic is 10 times harsher on the car than high way driving. These are anecdotes so who knows? I'm thinking of maybe testing my oil in a lab to see what intervals work best for my driving.
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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 07:35 PM
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only way to know is blackstone oil forensics. Every motor is different and people drive their cars differently as well.
These cars run hot, and I would say in my amateur mind that oil degrades quicker.
I've always used Motul/Liquimoly and never had an issue. I am curious with the ester based oils? Can you elaborate?
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@TWINTURBOS My AMG brother for your car id recommend either amsoil 5w-40 European formula if you cruise a lot and drive harsh only sometimes so let’s say 20/30 days but if your like me and your patience wears out I’d say get motul sport 5w-40 or get motul 300V 5w-40 about 6.5 litres approximately. Replace every 5k kilometres and try to use oem oil filter only I feel the oem oil filter works best for my car I’ve tried all sorts of cheap to expensive oil filters nothing works better then oem other then that you should be good and make sure your getting your oil flushed every other oil change well atleast I do and my car still sounds the same as it did the first day I got it
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@TWINTURBOS for our car a ester based oil is better then molybdenum (liqui moly) or penzoil as I think they both are group 3 PAO (again don’t quote me on this as I’m half asleep lmao) personally I think motul, amsoil or redline would be the only options suited best for our cars broski
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@TWINTURBOS @c43PDX if looking to replace oil a little later then 5k let’s say ummm like 9-10k then I’d say go to amsoil 5w-40 European formula as the detergents and additives in this oil are excellent for very very long intervals, on my Acura Rdx I put 0w-20 amsoil and I replace it every 10-15k as the k20c4 (type-R motor in Acura RDX 2019+) is a oil hungry motor And it works extremely well for it as other oils start to be consumed heavily within 5k of usage (Castrol edge,penzoil or even liqui moly 0w-20 Asian American car formula) but if you want max performance vs longer intervals then I’d say go w motul since ester based oils need to be changed more often believe me I researched the **** outta oils as I own a rdx, srt hellcat widebody, c43 and a trackhawk 😂

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@TWINTURBOS My AMG brother for your car id recommend either amsoil 5w-40 European formula if you cruise a lot and drive harsh only sometimes so let’s say 20/30 days but if your like me and your patience wears out I’d say get motul sport 5w-40 or get motul 300V 5w-40 about 6.5 litres approximately. Replace every 5k kilometres and try to use oem oil filter only I feel the oem oil filter works best for my car I’ve tried all sorts of cheap to expensive oil filters nothing works better then oem other then that you should be good and make sure your getting your oil flushed every other oil change well atleast I do and my car still sounds the same as it did the first day I got it
Appreciate the advice bro! I drive harsh and on sport + with comfort suspension 95% of the time. Can't get enough of the noise 😁​​

5000 km is what I was thinking for a tuned car with aggressive driving as well. Next week I may install downpipes for stage 2. Wasn't sure whether to do it or not because it will change the exhaust note but worst comes to worst I'd have to fix it later with an aftermarket exhaust. Fingers crossed for some decent gains.
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@Ramsino id say replace the oil filter every time bro don’t wanna re use the filter w all the gunk in it
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@TWINTURBOS oh boy okay then stick w 300v motul 5w-40 or motul sport 5w-40 strictly bro I’ve tried all these oils just take my word for it I’ve been tuned and tried all these oils, you will thank me later and it make your engine smooth, I’m already stage 2 I’m waiting for my meth kit now from aem and my intercooler kit from Wagner, after that hole in the throttle body for the meth injection and then it’s track time 😈
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@TWINTURBOS oh boy okay then stick w 300v motul 5w-40 or motul sport 5w-40 strictly bro I’ve tried all these oils just take my word for it I’ve been tuned and tried all these oils, you will thank me later and it make your engine smooth, I’m already stage 2 I’m waiting for my meth kit now from aem and my intercooler kit from Wagner, after that hole in the throttle body for the meth injection and then it’s track time 😈
hehe, thanks man will do will try the sport with oem filter then. Do you know if we can use octane boosters like boostane to increase octane. Was going to ask EC because they tuned my car. Wanted to either go to a track and get some 98 or 100 race gas or maybe try boostane to see if there's a difference in performance. Am not going to do it without asking if the tune will support it though.
oh and let us know some numbers once your mods are finished.
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Yeah but the c43 caps out at 99/100 octane from what I know when it comes to extracting power on stage 1 (tune) or (intake and tune)but at stage 2 (downpipes,tune,intake) I think it’s up to 104 octane and e85 can be used as well however since I’m From 🇨🇦 (416) we lean more towards water meth/killer chiller or c85, boostane is good but if used way too much (like more then 5-6 times consecutively within a month) your gonna coat your spark plugs and they might start fouling, and I would say to use the highest octane to do the blending of octane boosters w, where I’m from the highest octane is 94 octane from Petro Canada, so if I were to ever use octane booster I would do it only w 94 cause it’s cheaper since you don’t have to use the entire bottle of boostane or Lucas or race gas concentrate,

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Yeah but the c43 caps out at 99/100 octane from what I know when it comes to extracting power on stage 1 (tune) or (intake and tune)but at stage 2 (downpipes,tune,intake) I think it’s up to 104 octane and e85 can be used as well however since I’m From 🇨🇦 (416) we lean more towards water meth/killer chiller or c85, boostane is good but if used way too much (like more then 5-6 times consecutively within a month) your gonna coat your spark plugs and they might start fouling, and I would say to use the highest octane to do the blending of octane boosters w, where I’m from the highest octane is 94 octane from Petro Canada, so if I were to ever use octane booster I would do it only w 94 cause it’s cheaper since you don’t have to use the entire bottle of boostane or Lucas or race gas concentrate,
Small world, I'm in the gta as well and only use petro 94. Where are you getting e85 though. Haven't found any gas stations with it. Only high octane fuel I've found is in cayuga at the track. Not planning on using boostane too much, just want to see what difference it will make. Have you ever run it or high octane fuels and have you notice gains from it?
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@TWINTURBOS c85 not e85, got A c85 drum from vp racing and I blend it when needed but honestly I will be fully able to use the e85 once I upgrade my fuel pump hpfp from spool performance
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