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Old Sep 26, 2024 | 08:55 PM
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Transmission Fluid Change SUCCESS

Hey, thought I’d share my experiences….

I’m a “fix it in the driveway” kinda guy, but due to a busy schedule and after watching some YT videos on this process, I thought I’d pay someone to do it.. well… thank god I did.
My 19’ C43 Wagon with 115k km was experiencing some minor shift issues.. the bucking was becoming BUCKING… and occasionally if I manually downshifted, it would shift down 2 gears. I also found it a bit sluggish to shift when super cold up here in Canada…

So i found a guy, who is SERIOUS about doing things right. He was incredibly detailed in the process and sent me photos and videos while he did the work. I intended to DYI this, but he showed me how meticulous you need to be about levels… warm, but not too warm… correct tools etc.. and then spent a ton of time using software to test and bleed each valve/ solenoid

So after spending a LOT of money on good fluid and OEM parts, I was hesitant to believe how great the car felt when I drove it home. Today I drove spirited to work, then did some driving around and was amazed at how well it shifted. The bucking was pretty much a non-issue and the shifts felt fast and solid.

My point? Don’t hesitate to have this important service done, but more importantly MAKE SURE your service tech follows up with proper level checks and software checks.

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Old Sep 27, 2024 | 02:54 PM
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Hey! I also have a wagon . When are we supposed to change transmission fluids for our cars? What mileage or year?
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Old Sep 27, 2024 | 03:00 PM
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Old Sep 27, 2024 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sdrutledge
Hey, thought I’d share my experiences….

I’m a “fix it in the driveway” kinda guy, but due to a busy schedule and after watching some YT videos on this process, I thought I’d pay someone to do it.. well… thank god I did.
My 19’ C43 Wagon with 115k km was experiencing some minor shift issues.. the bucking was becoming BUCKING… and occasionally if I manually downshifted, it would shift down 2 gears. I also found it a bit sluggish to shift when super cold up here in Canada…

So i found a guy, who is SERIOUS about doing things right. He was incredibly detailed in the process and sent me photos and videos while he did the work. I intended to DYI this, but he showed me how meticulous you need to be about levels… warm, but not too warm… correct tools etc.. and then spent a ton of time using software to test and bleed each valve/ solenoid

So after spending a LOT of money on good fluid and OEM parts, I was hesitant to believe how great the car felt when I drove it home. Today I drove spirited to work, then did some driving around and was amazed at how well it shifted. The bucking was pretty much a non-issue and the shifts felt fast and solid.

My point? Don’t hesitate to have this important service done, but more importantly MAKE SURE your service tech follows up with proper level checks and software checks.
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120,000km
Good decision, I had mine done at a dealership though and did it half that mileage.
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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 10:58 AM
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I just finished this service on both my cars. Having the correct tools makes a lot of difference in how confident you feel about doing it.

My arsenal for this job includes:
Long reach low profile floor jack
round top 3-ton jack stands (x4)
BMS jack point adapters (x4)
Launch x431 Creader V2.0
CTA tools fill port adapter
CTA pressurized fluid fill station
E-torx swivel sockets

As you can see, it's a fairly sizable commitment in tooling to know you can do it correctly. I make the economics work by having two cars to service with the same setup.

The pan bolts by the trans mount are the only real headache in the job once you have the right tools.

Also pay attention to the pan gasket in that area, it likes to get caught on the trans mount.
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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 11:16 AM
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Yes! The by the time I added up all the parts and tools that I would need to add to my collection, it wasn't going to be worth the savings for doing one car every 120000 km.

There is also the problem that I don't have at a level surface to work on... Leveling the car in my driveway would have been really tough.
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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TwoC400s
I just finished this service on both my cars. Having the correct tools makes a lot of difference in how confident you feel about doing it.

My arsenal for this job includes:
Long reach low profile floor jack
round top 3-ton jack stands (x4)
BMS jack point adapters (x4)
Launch x431 Creader V2.0
CTA tools fill port adapter
CTA pressurized fluid fill station
E-torx swivel sockets

As you can see, it's a fairly sizable commitment in tooling to know you can do it correctly. I make the economics work by having two cars to service with the same setup.

The pan bolts by the trans mount are the only real headache in the job once you have the right tools.

Also pay attention to the pan gasket in that area, it likes to get caught on the trans mount.
Hmmm, I regret not DIYing mine instead of giving it to the stealership, that cost me 950+HST CAD
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 06:21 PM
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Can you explain how you used Launch x431 Creader V2.0 for the procedure?
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 08:55 PM
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You can still save on performing the transmission flush by doing it just once, but with a professional scanner, the cost will come close. At least you get peace of mind in doing it properly.

Additionally, if you do it without going through Xentry, you can save a couple hundred bucks. Imo, it really wasn't necessary and the majority of indies won't even do it. Not to mention, a lot don't drain the TC either.

It's a pretty tedious process that involves a significant amount of work for what would normally be easy on a JDM. Expect long hours and a sore back/neck without a lift if it's your first time!

Pro tip: The transmission pan drain tool settings (1-4) are NOT in order of least to most flow. Setting #2 is a scam, it is pretty much seldom used. Draining excess should be done at idle with Setting #3. I made the mistake of using #2 for a slower flow rate but it actually remains open the whole time, let out too much fluid, had to go back to the site and order online for an extra 2 bottles... Oh and swivel socket is a must!

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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jonathan358
You can still save on performing the transmission flush by doing it just once, but with a professional scanner, the cost will come close. At least you get peace of mind in doing it properly.

Additionally, if you do it without going through Xentry, you can save a couple hundred bucks. Imo, it really wasn't necessary and the majority of indies won't even do it. Not to mention, a lot don't drain the TC either.

It's a pretty tedious process that involves a significant amount of work for what would normally be easy on a JDM. Expect long hours and a sore back/neck without a lift if it's your first time!

Pro tip: The transmission pan drain tool settings (1-4) are NOT in order of least to most flow. Setting #2 is a scam, it is pretty much seldom used. Draining excess should be done at idle with Setting #3. I made the mistake of using #2 for a slower flow rate but it actually remains open the whole time, let out too much fluid, had to go back to the site and order online for an extra 2 bottles... Oh and swivel socket is a must!
I guess, it certainly helps if you have another vehicle to use to grab the fluid in person.
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Boostman76
Can you explain how you used Launch x431 Creader V2.0 for the procedure?
It has a fluid level set function that displays the trans fluid temp so you know when to start letting the fluid out of the pan.

I feel this is much more accurate than trying to use a temp probe or IR temp gun on the pan.
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TwoC400s
It has a fluid level set function that displays the trans fluid temp so you know when to start letting the fluid out of the pan.

I feel this is much more accurate than trying to use a temp probe or IR temp gun on the pan.
Nice! I just recwntly got the scanner so havent fully explored it all! Good to know it has that function...will go find it!
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Boostman76
Nice! I just recwntly got the scanner so havent fully explored it all! Good to know it has that function...will go find it!
not going to lie, it is a great scanner and very compact, obviously nothing beats MB's own XENTRY but this is nice little handy tool that is compact and can be brought around easily.
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
not going to lie, it is a great scanner and very compact, obviously nothing beats MB's own XENTRY but this is nice little handy tool that is compact and can be brought around easily.
Between setting the trans fluid level on both of my cars and coding in injectors, it has paid for itself in less than a month.
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Originally Posted by TwoC400s
Between setting the trans fluid level on both of my cars and coding in injectors, it has paid for itself in less than a month.
Amazing, good to hear : )
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Will look into this as my '20 hit 120k not long ago, but so far shifting is still goooooood.
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Originally Posted by jonathan358
...Pro tip: The transmission pan drain tool settings (1-4) are NOT in order of least to most flow. Setting #2 is a scam, it is pretty much seldom used. Draining excess should be done at idle with Setting #3. I made the mistake of using #2 for a slower flow rate but it actually remains open the whole time, let out too much fluid, had to go back to the site and order online for an extra 2 bottles...
Sorry, can you explain what Settings you are referring to?

Is the process for the 9-speed tranny the same as for the 722.9 7G tranny? If so, the overflow pipe should determine the proper level at the proper temperature with a level car.

EDIT: Holy cow! Servicing the 9-speed tranny is NOTHING like servicing the 7G tranny. I have done several 7G and 7G+ transmissions, and I have a lift in my garage. But, I would take my car to the dealer to service a 9-speed transmission.

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Will look into this as my '20 hit 120k not long ago, but so far shifting is still goooooood.
There are both distance and time intervals for servicing the transmission. The intervals for US cars are 77,500 miles or 5 years. So, 120k is in that ballpark and your 2020 model is within the time interval. HOWEVER, this is NOT a service you want to neglect. You don't want to wait for shifting problems.

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Originally Posted by TwoC400s
I just finished this service on both my cars. Having the correct tools makes a lot of difference in how confident you feel about doing it.

My arsenal for this job includes:
Long reach low profile floor jack
round top 3-ton jack stands (x4)
BMS jack point adapters (x4)
Launch x431 Creader V2.0
CTA tools fill port adapter
CTA pressurized fluid fill station
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As you can see, it's a fairly sizable commitment in tooling to know you can do it correctly. I make the economics work by having two cars to service with the same setup.

The pan bolts by the trans mount are the only real headache in the job once you have the right tools.

Also pay attention to the pan gasket in that area, it likes to get caught on the trans mount.
As I said above, servicing the 9-speed tranny is NOTHING like servicing the 7G tranny. I have done several 7G and 7G+ transmissions, but I would take my car to the dealer to service a 9-speed transmission. Mercedes has certainly made it hard, if not impossible, for DIY.
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Agree with doing the service, prevention is a pound of cure, we say that when dealing with our own health, it applies to cars as well.
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Just had mine serviced @ 125kms, had both diffs oil changed as well. Figured I might as well since he's under there and it's fairly quick/low cost procedure.
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Originally Posted by Evoex
Just had mine serviced @ 125kms, had both diffs oil changed as well. Figured I might as well since he's under there and it's fairly quick/low cost procedure.
Both diffs? So front and rear right, how was the fluid?
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Both diffs? So front and rear right, how was the fluid?
Yeah, F&R. Said it looked pretty clean still.
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Originally Posted by Evoex
Yeah, F&R. Said it looked pretty clean still.
Thanks for your reply : ) Good to hear. WIS calls for rear diff fluid change forgot what interval but no mention of front diff however I don't believe in the sealed for life nonsense so good idea to change it.
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