030 - Performance Pack
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AMG cars do not exhibit the typical outside wheel spinning issue that a full open differential gives you.
The advantages of a mechanical LSD over what you get from AMG in spirited driving is questionable.
My post before said that if you don't track your car, it may not really be worth it. I could also go as far as saying most people that track their cars for fun will really not see much of an advantage either because they don't push their cars to that level of performance. AMG's are fun on the track but they are not race cars.
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The real advantages of a mechanical LSD don't show up in any kind of normal street driving compared to the electronic slip intervention that our AMG cars have.
AMG cars do not exhibit the typical outside wheel spinning issue that a full open differential gives you.
The advantages of a mechanical LSD over what you get from AMG in spirited driving is questionable.
My post before said that if you don't track your car, it may not really be worth it. I could also go as far as saying most people that track their cars for fun will really not see much of an advantage either because they don't push their cars to that level of performance. AMG's are fun on the track but they are not race cars.
AMG cars do not exhibit the typical outside wheel spinning issue that a full open differential gives you.
The advantages of a mechanical LSD over what you get from AMG in spirited driving is questionable.
My post before said that if you don't track your car, it may not really be worth it. I could also go as far as saying most people that track their cars for fun will really not see much of an advantage either because they don't push their cars to that level of performance. AMG's are fun on the track but they are not race cars.
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I definitely want the LSD.
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I never said that they should not offer a LSD. My comments were that it is blown way out of proportion that it is "REQUIRED" or that it not being offered is a reason not to buy the car.
If you look at my original post, I said "If you can't live without it, wait a while."
I fully support AMG offering it as a part of the performance package and it is an option that I would get if I was buying a C63 (since I send a bunch of time at the track and on autocross courses.)
The good news is that the Performance Package will be offered. It is only a matter of time, for those that actually need it or just want it.
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Here's my take on it...
What does the performance pack consist of? Different springs, shocks, rims, LSD right?
Well... I would change all of those things anyhow save the LSD and you can readily for BETTER parts, so actually it's not that big of a deal depending on how much the difference runs for the marginal benefit, e.g. how much the PP cost v. the cost of the parts v. the marginal improvement.
Personally I would try and fit the same size rims and R compound tires as the black if possible do coilovers add LSD and ECU and you have a c63 black Beater no???
It's REALLY bull**** about the lack of keyless go. This REALLY pissed me off on my c55. I actually looked into adding it and was told that our US cars have a different harness which doesn't support it. Did the 07 EUR and MEX cars have that option? I know they had the paddles and auto climate-
PS hopefully they sorted the *******g climate control mine doesn't work worth a rats *ss. It is the biggest problem I have with the car!
What does the performance pack consist of? Different springs, shocks, rims, LSD right?
Well... I would change all of those things anyhow save the LSD and you can readily for BETTER parts, so actually it's not that big of a deal depending on how much the difference runs for the marginal benefit, e.g. how much the PP cost v. the cost of the parts v. the marginal improvement.
Personally I would try and fit the same size rims and R compound tires as the black if possible do coilovers add LSD and ECU and you have a c63 black Beater no???
It's REALLY bull**** about the lack of keyless go. This REALLY pissed me off on my c55. I actually looked into adding it and was told that our US cars have a different harness which doesn't support it. Did the 07 EUR and MEX cars have that option? I know they had the paddles and auto climate-
PS hopefully they sorted the *******g climate control mine doesn't work worth a rats *ss. It is the biggest problem I have with the car!
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Here's my take on it...
What does the performance pack consist of? Different springs, shocks, rims, LSD right?
Well... I would change all of those things anyhow save the LSD and you can readily for BETTER parts, so actually it's not that big of a deal depending on how much the difference runs for the marginal benefit, e.g. how much the PP cost v. the cost of the parts v. the marginal improvement.
Personally I would try and fit the same size rims and R compound tires as the black if possible do coilovers add LSD and ECU and you have a c63 black Beater no???
It's REALLY bull**** about the lack of keyless go. This REALLY pissed me off on my c55. I actually looked into adding it and was told that our US cars have a different harness which doesn't support it. Did the 07 EUR and MEX cars have that option? I know they had the paddles and auto climate-
PS hopefully they sorted the *******g climate control mine doesn't work worth a rats *ss. It is the biggest problem I have with the car!
What does the performance pack consist of? Different springs, shocks, rims, LSD right?
Well... I would change all of those things anyhow save the LSD and you can readily for BETTER parts, so actually it's not that big of a deal depending on how much the difference runs for the marginal benefit, e.g. how much the PP cost v. the cost of the parts v. the marginal improvement.
Personally I would try and fit the same size rims and R compound tires as the black if possible do coilovers add LSD and ECU and you have a c63 black Beater no???
It's REALLY bull**** about the lack of keyless go. This REALLY pissed me off on my c55. I actually looked into adding it and was told that our US cars have a different harness which doesn't support it. Did the 07 EUR and MEX cars have that option? I know they had the paddles and auto climate-
PS hopefully they sorted the *******g climate control mine doesn't work worth a rats *ss. It is the biggest problem I have with the car!
The best thing about both the Performance Package and the Black Series is that it has a full warranty. Even if you run the car on the track you are covered. How much is that worth?
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