amg07

This seems to be conflicting information. This would be the first time the Nappa was an option on a US spec AMG (at least post 1999 AMGs). Will need to check into this a bit more to know for sure. It was not on the US ordering guide but maybe something changed when they announced the pricing?

SolidGranite

I'm with you. I HIGHLY doubt the US spec AMG will be arriving without standard Nappa.

GBlansten

Other threads on here have suggested that the C63 will have power seats with memory as well. I think the Nappa thing is bad info.

E55 KEV

Yo, things change. HID, headlamp washers and rear window sunshade were standard on W210 E55 but not on W211 E55/E63.

amg07

Yep. I called my dear and received confirmation that the 318 pkg includes the following:

318
242 : Power Passenger Seat w/Memory
275 : Power Dr.Seat & Steering Col. w/ Memory

So about $65K for full loaded C63 - still competitive.

Eurosport

you're right competitive is key word
at 65k though there's a LOT of other choices
unless you must have a new car and take a hit in depreciation

if you're fine with buying used, 65k is M5, e55, e63 territory
heck even a cl65

C63ForMe

This thread on here shows it as an option

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w204/226141-c63-us-standard-features.html#post2660277

This article http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehi...3909.html?pg=6 calls it the "Nappa" leather seating package option for $2,950

When I ordered the dealer identified it as "Nappa Leather Seating Option" with code 318 that included:
(242) Power Passenger Seat w/Memory
(275) Power Driver Seat & Steering Column w/Memory

So I'm thinking it's Good Info.

GBlansten

I'm just confused since the car comes with leather as the standard interior and should come with 8-way power seats just like the C350. So, I'm not sure what is gained by getting Nappa and for $3K you get the three memory buttons for driver and passenger. That seems like a lot of money for very little.

DaCeptak0n

I'm thinkin' of putting a deposit down at Ray Catena on Tuesday. I was gonna do it today but I decided to wait to collect my thoughts on whether a used CLS55 AMG or a C63 AMG

Which would you go for?

C63ForMe

I agree it is confusing. The standard "leather" is not considered leather in the leather industry because it's man-made, typically from vinyl. (I have a link to an article that calls the standard C63 leather "ARTICO man-made leather"). The "Nappa" leather is from animal hides and has a soft consistency. The auto industry is probably the only one that considers vinyl to be leather.

To quote from Wikipidea "In today's times, many cars and trucks come optional or standard with 'leather' seating. This can range from cheap vinyl material, found on some low cost vehicles, to Nappa leather, found on luxury car brands like Mercedes-Benz and Audi."

Here's the link with good details.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leather...modern_culture

norb

They can't call it leather unless its made from an animal skin. They can't put vinyl in and call it leather. The cheaper leather is usually taken from cow leather and they split it in two. Then they run it through an embosser to put the grain back in it and literally paint the color on it. Very economical to make leather this way. And they only have to put it on the seating surfaces, so the sides, headrest, back of the seat can be vinyl. Vinyl is so advanced now that not many people can see the difference.

C63OrNotToC63

Thank you MB! Hoping this pricing sticks with the '09 model since I doubt my midwest, low AMG volume dealer will get many, if any, allocations of the '08. This price puts the C63 in HIGH consideration for me. It'll be between Audi's incredible smooth styling on the S5 and the raw power and styling of MB's V8 (plus the utility of a sedan). If MB would ditch the circular lights on the CLK I'd strongly consider that b-pillar-less hotness. As it stands how though, definitely a battle between the S5 and C63. That is...unless I find a dealer willing to sell me a GT-R at MSRP. That thing sets the standard for performance cars in so many ways and would be worth the stretch. Again, great job MB!

C63ForMe

I agree. They shouldn't be able to. But there are several references to MBs "ARTICO man-made leather" as being made from vinyl and being "leather-like".

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Mi...2&MiniSiteID=6

http://www.carpoint.com.au/car-review/2210718.aspx

In any case back to the original point. The information I've seen and heard upto this point is:

The standard seating upholstery is an "ARTICO man-made leather and fabric combination".

There is an option for a Nappa Leather Seating Package.

The option includes Nappa Leather on the centre door panels and in-door armrests. It will also include the additional power seating positions and memory as mentioned previously.

Whether the difference in quality and additional costs of this is worth it is purely subjective as with most options.

Kar don

I can confirm that there is nappa on the door panels as well. Makes the interior much more luxurious.

pmb600

Everything you guys are posting about vinyl and "artico" is completely false. Artico is MB Tex. If any article is referring to artico it is not referring to a US car, because that term is NEVER used in the US. Mark my words, leather will be standard on the C63 (in the US at least) and I am 90% sure that the power seats and steering column with memory will be standard also. (Judging by the comments made during the AMG Private Lounge discussions with AMG product managment at MBUSA.) They told us that the only options for the C63 will be P2, Multimedia, TeleAid, iPod. The end. The car is remarkably well priced, and I think a steal--especially considering a loaded C350 is about $50,000. $10K more for a loaded AMG is right about where it should be.

Oh and I was told by my dealer that there will be 3 colors: Black, Black/Grey and Black/Sahara--which in my opinion is the best decision MB has made in a long time.

Oh and btw, aparantly the new M3 has some wierd cloth as standard.

amg07

Yes the C 63 I beleive comes standard with leather (I think it is the same leather that is OPTIONAL on the regular C class), just not Nappa. To get Nappa you need to purchase the 138 package which also adds the memory function to the power seats (driver and passenger) and steering column.

nrgy

Did they just recently add the 138 package? When I went to my dealer to place my order and pick the options back in early Jan., the only option in regards to leather was the color.

norb

Maybe C32forme isn't in the USA?And thus the confusion.

WoodHill Motors

Is it a coincidence that the C63 pricing came out just weeks after the M3 pricing came out?

No.

Is it a coincidence that the C63 base price is EXACLTY the same as the E90 M3 base price?

Nope.

Is the C63 going to be a hot and sexy car that screams performance?

You bet!

amg07

Recently added. Somewhat makes sense since the base price is lower than expected. And confirmed that is applys to the US spec cars.

amg07

Precisely!

gixxer

I really like the C63 but without LSD i'm not interested with that much power. The LSD should be standrad! Now I have a allocation for the new M3 but thinking twice.

amg07

If you can wait a few months for the 2009 C63 you can option for the Performance Package. It is $ 3900 and includes:

P30 Performance Package will start production with Model Year 2009 during the summer for an MSRP of $3,900. P30 Package includes the limited slip differential, 186 mph (raised) top speed, compound brakes and an Alcantara steering wheel and the package items cannot be ordered individually.

pmb600

Sorry but I simply think this is incorrect. The AMG guys themselves said directly that the only options will be P2, Multimedia, Metallic Paint, 6 disc changer (included in multimedia), and teleaid. This means that leather and all the power seats with memory are standard.

If anyone else has access to the Private lounge, it was during the January 15 session that this was said. I am fortunate to have access to the lounge because my uncle lets me use his, he just doens't care enough to go on.

amg07

Check the Lounge. The updated data mentioned above comes from the Lounge. Apparently not everything was completely finalized back then.