Schiznick

This is just not possible...... Your telling me that the C63 bests your CLK Black Series by 20 mph on the same road. Not a chance, never, no how. Either you just can drive or you have been bitten by the new car bug.

I have driven both and I own a Black Series, the C63 will not out corner a CLK Black. It just won't, the cars are in two different leagues in the handling department. The C63 is a great car but don't get carried away, enjoy it for what it is.

transferred

E92 M3 outcorners it too. Great car the C63, just got to keep it real.

BoBcanada

with performance package it will be same times... I saw a german test where they both run same times.

Last Emperor

where can i watch that dude??

AMGTTV8

just so all you clowns know...the c63 and bs share the EXACT SAME suspension components.

DFW01E55

Wouldn't that be difficult if their track was different?

il brabusk8

having the same suspension doesn't mean anything, the bs, has a much lower center of gravity, as well as its tires are much larger.

i live up near napa and have been to many track events at infineon raceway, and have seen black series keep pace with 997 gt3's which i was very impressed by, i find it difficult to belive that c63 would be able to do that with all the rear tire slip, if ur driving in sport mode or with esp fully off.

and im not sure about the comment the c63 performance package will be able to keep up wit the m3, i love the c64 way more then the m3, but the m3 is a better suited for the track.... but i could be wrong

c350blknav

how can someone have 23 cars in 4 years. Do you have time to do anything else HOLY CRAP lol. Can you put me on? My birds can fly across the atlantic... HAHAHAHHA

Germancar1

Wow. Uh..no they don't. The CLK BS' suspension is fully adjustable, the C63's isn't. The C63 has the same front suspension as the CLK BS, but thats it. Same design, but different states of tune on the 2 cars.

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micropower99

I agree, why would you change 23 cars in 4 years? Thats wow.. But the main topic that makes me go in shock is why the hell would you get rid of the 360 ferrari? Lol No offense but I'd rather own a ferrari than a mercedes. (Even tho I love my benz with a passion haha)

Schiznick

Get your facts straight before you start talking about things you don't know about.

The C63 does not have a fully adjustable KW front suspension system. The system is similar and they share a few components but they are far from the same.

Don't buy into the generalizations made by the magazines, they are idiots and they don't have a clue. Yes the C63 is amazing and it handles very well but it is no Black Series.

Just drive the cars, that is all it takes to see the differences. That is why this story is bull to begin with.

Zod

Just would like to point out a few things:

A.C63 does not have LSD standard
B. sport package on C63 include LSD, lower suspension & bigger bakes i believe, maybe even different wheels. This effects track performance vastly
C. M3 & clk bs get LSD standard. Hence why the M3 does better in tracks results.
D. F360 does not stand a chance VS a stock E55k and C63 seems to be sporting similar 1/4 numbers. A 550 maranelo loses to, or is neck and neck on the TRACK with an SL55 ...and thats a heavy benz/ not the fastest. In a straight well try it out your self.
M5 has been compared to the F430 a few times to and thats usually compared to the E63 so . Not saying they are in the same league, but comparable with pros & cons on both ends.

and lastly..until you drive both its hard for any one to say anything trying to state facts, when they do not have the seat time to justify it (Track & dyno also help )

blackstar

So I guess the C63 shares the same adjustable coil-overs, beefed up control arms, bushings, and oversized hubs as well right??

Last Emperor

the f430 is roughly half a second faster

and not in the same league as any benz

the 430 might just be the most close to perfect car ever built

Zod

I am not to shower about that. In a straight i would love to see how a 65 would do with it

GSpot

I have to agree with Korn55's prior posts...i just picked up my C63 the other day...its absolutely amazing.
My dad used to have a 360 Ferrari; i've driven it many times and to be honest i like the c63 way better. We've had SL65s, CLS55s, Aston Martins, and some other nice/fast cars in the family over the last few years, and im really impressed at how this $65K car keeps up to as well as surpasses the others.
I've ripped this car around some fun windy roads already too, and ill also agree that i've never been able to take the turns as fast, or as confidently as with this car.
This car sounds sweet, drives awesome, and for half the cost of other 63 and 65AMGs and a third of the cost of a once new 360 Modena, its got me a believer.

micropower99

ferrari is not even in the same class as the mercedes. anyone on earth would chose a brand new ferrari 360 over a merc C63 (except the couple that were posting in this thread saying they'd rather drive a benz) No doubt the C63 (and all merc's) are amazing but no merc comes close to the ferrari status (the SLR mclaren does only)

Newzchspy

Dude, its his opinion and yes, there are many AMG cars that are worlds better than Ferraris (Ferraris= Poseurs with $$$) I laugh everytime I see one at teh Auto Bahn Country Club!!! I called it Grand touring around the track. "Thats not racing!!"

If its better to him than the 360, then so be it!! Thats why baskin Robbins makes 31 flavors!!

Newzchspy

Yepper, thats about all it is is STATUS!! I want a car I can drive everyday, dust about 99.9 % of them on the road, one that doesnt need regular maintenance and repairs NOR $5,000 bills everytime you take it in. The AMG is the perfect everyday car (and a great track one too). If you even think that the car Michael schumacher won many World Championships is the same one you see psing around the world, you're sadly mistaken. Its nothing like it!! Most drivers do NOT even have the capabilities that the Ferrari, Lambo or SLR offer. For daily use and just good old fun, the C63 is a great car!!! Hey, I thought this was a AMG Forum, how'd Ferrari-istas get on here?? Or to be more accurate the Scuderi or tifosi!!

StevE55

what is the current reatil of a new c63?

cHicKnFEET

I do not agree with you! I currently own a CLS55 in my lease ending search for a new car I choose to order a C63 full option and waiting for the PP package.
I have driven many cars and owned many more - I WOULD NEVER BUY A FERRARI - I think they are super sexy and an incredible machine one of the best greatest machines on earth - but they are horrible to drive in my opinion, They are not fast (stock) the maintenance is way over priced and you cant park then anywhere! this of corse is my personal opinion... I just believe if you own a car drive the shyt out of it, I hear people say you can do that with a Ferrari but come on you would need a new clutch every 2500 miles the way our LA traffic is... truth is my CLS is just as fast and handles just fine for street and canyon driving - when I go to the track I have many other options other than a Ferrari - and to answer the question If you gave me a Ferrari would I take yes to sell or trade but I wouldn't take keep it I would ask if you were giving away anything else in its place like a Lotus - people always put the hi-price cars on a pedestal but don't see the practicality of them - BTW I only have a three car garage and its full with 3 cars and 3 motorcycles and I have 2 cars on the driveway... I wouldn;t move anyone of those for a Ferrari...... Just my opinion!

Newzchspy

Finally some sense being spoken here. All the guy said is that he loves the way his C63 handles and all of the sudden Ferrari is in the picture???

Bilal

Your wish is granted!

S65 v F430

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_kHXES2_UTA

Only 2 wishes left

Last Emperor

btw, there is no benz, besides MAYBE the SLR that drives, handles, or does anything remotely close to the new ferraris

anyone who thinks so is delusional!!!!!

Stuttgart-UT

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