с63 vs chipped 335 coupe
#27
yea, I took the video of that run and tuned the car with him..... it's the procede v2, 13.9 psi, stock runflat tires, K&N drop in filter..... no weight reduction, we did weigh the car that day, it 3600 pounds....
Do you know what gas it was using? What kind of tune? Tires? Weight Reduction? Lots of these little things have a part in generating the results you saw. When it comes to tuning my own cars, I know exactly how I want them to be, if it's daily beaten, like my old 335i, I'd like to leave a little head room just to be safe, but for my race machines, I always get the max out of them given the fact they will never see street duties.
#29
The 335's have peaked and are now getting S L O W. Stock they are running mid 13's to low 14's.
Yeah I saw Terry run 11.89@114 butthat car had it all includingthe greatesttire set up of all time. Warren my buddy and recorder of many 335 records does 12.20-12.40 in his chipped machine but man o man I have seen that car simply blow up after a few hard launches, C63 get out and run , all this chit chat and no track #s...COMON do it
#30
The 335's have peaked and are now getting S L O W. Stock they are running mid 13's to low 14's.
Yeah I saw Terry run 11.89@114 butthat car had it all includingthe greatesttire set up of all time. Warren my buddy and recorder of many 335 records does 12.20-12.40 in his chipped machine but man o man I have seen that car simply blow up after a few hard launches, C63 get out and run , all this chit chat and no track #s...COMON do it
Yeah I saw Terry run 11.89@114 butthat car had it all includingthe greatesttire set up of all time. Warren my buddy and recorder of many 335 records does 12.20-12.40 in his chipped machine but man o man I have seen that car simply blow up after a few hard launches, C63 get out and run , all this chit chat and no track #s...COMON do it
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#32
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Well according to C&D test, stock C63 traps 116mph in the 1/4 mile, while these heavily tuned 335i's only manage 114mph, meaning C63 has a definite edge from a roll. That one chipped 335i that was running 12.4 @ 114mph is certainly not the norm for chipped 335i, usually its only high 12's and around 110mph trap speed with just the ecu .
I was gonna say the samething! .... I can't wait to see a C63 with a flashed ECU!! C'mon guys just think! its a 63 motor pushing 451hp, Someone will be pushing it up to 507hp... if not 525hp.
#33
No question - if you're talking stock C63 to modded 335, it is one thing. But modded/modded is a different story.
#34
we need to see some C63 owners get the track so we can see some trap speeds.....
Well according to C&D test, stock C63 traps 116mph in the 1/4 mile, while these heavily tuned 335i's only manage 114mph, meaning C63 has a definite edge from a roll. That one chipped 335i that was running 12.4 @ 114mph is certainly not the norm for chipped 335i, usually its only high 12's and around 110mph trap speed with just the ecu .
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#38
Sorry to say but I also have to say, who cares? You are comparing an AMG with a basic bmw, not even an M. You can tune any car to be fast. I would only buy the 335i because it is a relatively fast car and reltively cheap. But the truth is that the car interests me about as much as a 325i. A -93 Toyota Supra with 1000bhp would interest me more. The stock 335i I have driven have not impressed me. The fuel consumption however impressed me...
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I might be able to lay down some numbers this Friday. The C63 is getting revised Powerchip software along with VRP filters, we will see what kind of numbers it posts.
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#43
Okay, I've adjusted my attitude. Sorry to be such a fun pooper. Truth is... I'd love to see the C63 beat every other car on the planet's ***. I won't stick my nose up and be all "who cares... it's a mercedes" anymore. I sounded like an idiot for someone who loves Top Gear so much! By the way, did anyone see the gas mileage edition where they raced the Prius around the track with an M3 following to see which would get better gas mileage?
#44
Okay, I've adjusted my attitude. Sorry to be such a fun pooper. Truth is... I'd love to see the C63 beat every other car on the planet's ***. I won't stick my nose up and be all "who cares... it's a mercedes" anymore. I sounded like an idiot for someone who loves Top Gear so much! By the way, did anyone see the gas mileage edition where they raced the Prius around the track with an M3 following to see which would get better gas mileage?
#45
Just to keep you happy:
Vishnu V1 335i (very fast)vs m3 http://www.vishnutuning.com/bmw_335i.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic3nnoWh9pU
Remember the c63 is faster than the m3...
Then the v1 vs v2 (I would still say the v2 seems slower than the M3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ssDuGEhJnA
Here is a test:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=119485
Vishnu V1 335i (very fast)vs m3 http://www.vishnutuning.com/bmw_335i.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic3nnoWh9pU
Remember the c63 is faster than the m3...
Then the v1 vs v2 (I would still say the v2 seems slower than the M3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ssDuGEhJnA
Here is a test:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=119485
#48
just for reference here is a chipped alone V2 335i coupe vs a 6spd e92 m3.
two videos
http://www.vimeo.com/1057389
FWIW, i think the real question is, what car will win on a track. it seems that the 335i puts up just about the same skid pad, braking, Slalom numbers. i wonder how a V2 335i would do on the track aganist a c63.
FWIW, the 335i runs on RFT tires. its a very impressive car when looked closely at, with better tires then the RFT, it can probably out brake, Slalom, and skid pad the c63 without a problem.
FWIW, i also just put my order in for my PP C63
two videos
http://www.vimeo.com/1057389
FWIW, i think the real question is, what car will win on a track. it seems that the 335i puts up just about the same skid pad, braking, Slalom numbers. i wonder how a V2 335i would do on the track aganist a c63.
FWIW, the 335i runs on RFT tires. its a very impressive car when looked closely at, with better tires then the RFT, it can probably out brake, Slalom, and skid pad the c63 without a problem.
FWIW, i also just put my order in for my PP C63
#49
just for reference here is a chipped alone V2 335i coupe vs a 6spd e92 m3.
two videos
http://www.vimeo.com/1057389
FWIW, i think the real question is, what car will win on a track. it seems that the 335i puts up just about the same skid pad, braking, Slalom numbers. i wonder how a V2 335i would do on the track aganist a c63.
FWIW, the 335i runs on RFT tires. its a very impressive car when looked closely at, with better tires then the RFT, it can probably out brake, Slalom, and skid pad the c63 without a problem.
FWIW, i also just put my order in for my PP C63
two videos
http://www.vimeo.com/1057389
FWIW, i think the real question is, what car will win on a track. it seems that the 335i puts up just about the same skid pad, braking, Slalom numbers. i wonder how a V2 335i would do on the track aganist a c63.
FWIW, the 335i runs on RFT tires. its a very impressive car when looked closely at, with better tires then the RFT, it can probably out brake, Slalom, and skid pad the c63 without a problem.
FWIW, i also just put my order in for my PP C63
Have you ever driven one to say this???
Ok! lets take this further. I have driven the 335i several times and got similar gps:ed times for an E39 540IA M-sport than a standard sedan 335iA when tested.
#50
Sorry but NO WAY is a stock 335i going to beat a c63 in braking, slalom or anything! With the standard 3 series chassis and brakes and no LSD??? You must be kidding me? you might be right if you are talking about a 335i coupe with the M sport chassis and upgraded brakes, but common a standard 300bhp 3-series??? I think I am going to stop reading these posts, because not long ago to say that a regular standard 3-series with a littlebit more power than a standard car will beat a AMG with a 150hp advantage and huge brakes, would probably end in banning that person, but now it seems to be a trend. The STANDARD 335i wont be even close.
Have you ever driven one to say this???
Ok! lets take this further. I have driven the 335i several times and got similar gps:ed times for an E39 540IA M-sport than a standard sedan 335iA when tested.
Have you ever driven one to say this???
Ok! lets take this further. I have driven the 335i several times and got similar gps:ed times for an E39 540IA M-sport than a standard sedan 335iA when tested.
335i Testing - Edmunds
C63 Testing - Edmunds
I have the 335i. It is no slouch. I know it is no C63, but it certainly offers impressive performance for the money particularly with the cheap piggybacks available.
Last edited by robbyt18; 06-28-2008 at 11:05 PM.