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Old 06-19-2008 | 04:40 PM
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Who you think might win?
Just in a straight line?
Old 06-19-2008 | 04:58 PM
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yea, I took the video of that run and tuned the car with him..... it's the procede v2, 13.9 psi, stock runflat tires, K&N drop in filter..... no weight reduction, we did weigh the car that day, it 3600 pounds....




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Do you know what gas it was using? What kind of tune? Tires? Weight Reduction? Lots of these little things have a part in generating the results you saw. When it comes to tuning my own cars, I know exactly how I want them to be, if it's daily beaten, like my old 335i, I'd like to leave a little head room just to be safe, but for my race machines, I always get the max out of them given the fact they will never see street duties.
Old 06-19-2008 | 06:22 PM
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335 might be as fast.. it will never sound as good
Nope - not even close in that department.
Old 06-19-2008 | 10:19 PM
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yea, I took the video of that run and tuned the car with him..... it's the procede v2, 13.9 psi, stock runflat tires, K&N drop in filter..... no weight reduction, we did weigh the car that day, it 3600 pounds....

The 335's have peaked and are now getting S L O W. Stock they are running mid 13's to low 14's.

Yeah I saw Terry run 11.89@114 butthat car had it all includingthe greatesttire set up of all time. Warren my buddy and recorder of many 335 records does 12.20-12.40 in his chipped machine but man o man I have seen that car simply blow up after a few hard launches, C63 get out and run , all this chit chat and no track #s...COMON do it
Old 06-19-2008 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
The 335's have peaked and are now getting S L O W. Stock they are running mid 13's to low 14's.

Yeah I saw Terry run 11.89@114 butthat car had it all includingthe greatesttire set up of all time. Warren my buddy and recorder of many 335 records does 12.20-12.40 in his chipped machine but man o man I have seen that car simply blow up after a few hard launches, C63 get out and run , all this chit chat and no track #s...COMON do it
Well according to C&D test, stock C63 traps 116mph in the 1/4 mile, while these heavily tuned 335i's only manage 114mph, meaning C63 has a definite edge from a roll. That one chipped 335i that was running 12.4 @ 114mph is certainly not the norm for chipped 335i, usually its only high 12's and around 110mph trap speed with just the ecu .

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Old 06-20-2008 | 12:53 AM
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chip with high octane is gonna get you low 12's to mid 12's from what i have seen on these 335i's.. of course the driver mod helps, his 1.8 60' is nice
Old 06-20-2008 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
Well according to C&D test, stock C63 traps 116mph in the 1/4 mile, while these heavily tuned 335i's only manage 114mph, meaning C63 has a definite edge from a roll. That one chipped 335i that was running 12.4 @ 114mph is certainly not the norm for chipped 335i, usually its only high 12's and around 110mph trap speed with just the ecu .

I was gonna say the samething! .... I can't wait to see a C63 with a flashed ECU!! C'mon guys just think! its a 63 motor pushing 451hp, Someone will be pushing it up to 507hp... if not 525hp.
Old 06-20-2008 | 02:26 AM
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I was gonna say the samething! .... I can't wait to see a C63 with a flashed ECU!! C'mon guys just think! its a 63 motor pushing 451hp, Someone will be pushing it up to 507hp... if not 525hp.
No question - if you're talking stock C63 to modded 335, it is one thing. But modded/modded is a different story.
Old 06-20-2008 | 09:17 AM
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we need to see some C63 owners get the track so we can see some trap speeds.....



Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
Well according to C&D test, stock C63 traps 116mph in the 1/4 mile, while these heavily tuned 335i's only manage 114mph, meaning C63 has a definite edge from a roll. That one chipped 335i that was running 12.4 @ 114mph is certainly not the norm for chipped 335i, usually its only high 12's and around 110mph trap speed with just the ecu .
Old 06-20-2008 | 02:54 PM
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I thought that some of the procede v2 335's were putting down over 400rwhp back in late 07. Isn't there a v3 out now?
Old 06-21-2008 | 01:27 AM
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i hope this isnt the end?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HuoJP5DrGkY
Old 06-24-2008 | 01:01 AM
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Old 06-24-2008 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by c63ukraine
Who you think might win?
Sorry to say but I also have to say, who cares? You are comparing an AMG with a basic bmw, not even an M. You can tune any car to be fast. I would only buy the 335i because it is a relatively fast car and reltively cheap. But the truth is that the car interests me about as much as a 325i. A -93 Toyota Supra with 1000bhp would interest me more. The stock 335i I have driven have not impressed me. The fuel consumption however impressed me...
Old 06-24-2008 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Mathmik
I was gonna say the samething! .... I can't wait to see a C63 with a flashed ECU!! C'mon guys just think! its a 63 motor pushing 451hp, Someone will be pushing it up to 507hp... if not 525hp.

I might be able to lay down some numbers this Friday. The C63 is getting revised Powerchip software along with VRP filters, we will see what kind of numbers it posts.
Old 06-24-2008 | 08:41 AM
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Who do you think would win from one stoplight to the next, a chipped C63 or a 500HP BHT EK4 Civic Turbo?? Would your ***** feel smaller if the Civic beat you.... or does it matter?
Old 06-24-2008 | 11:19 PM
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I might be able to lay down some numbers this Friday. The C63 is getting revised Powerchip software along with VRP filters, we will see what kind of numbers it posts.
can't wait to see the numbers!!!
Old 06-25-2008 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Soni
can't wait to see the numbers!!!
+1 to that!
Old 06-25-2008 | 02:06 PM
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Okay, I've adjusted my attitude. Sorry to be such a fun pooper. Truth is... I'd love to see the C63 beat every other car on the planet's ***. I won't stick my nose up and be all "who cares... it's a mercedes" anymore. I sounded like an idiot for someone who loves Top Gear so much! By the way, did anyone see the gas mileage edition where they raced the Prius around the track with an M3 following to see which would get better gas mileage?
Old 06-25-2008 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AMGBeleza
Okay, I've adjusted my attitude. Sorry to be such a fun pooper. Truth is... I'd love to see the C63 beat every other car on the planet's ***. I won't stick my nose up and be all "who cares... it's a mercedes" anymore. I sounded like an idiot for someone who loves Top Gear so much! By the way, did anyone see the gas mileage edition where they raced the Prius around the track with an M3 following to see which would get better gas mileage?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-BImIaN4qyE
Old 06-25-2008 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by c63ukraine
Who you think might win?
Just to keep you happy:

Vishnu V1 335i (very fast)vs m3 http://www.vishnutuning.com/bmw_335i.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic3nnoWh9pU

Remember the c63 is faster than the m3...

Then the v1 vs v2 (I would still say the v2 seems slower than the M3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ssDuGEhJnA

Here is a test:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=119485
Old 06-25-2008 | 04:25 PM
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Old 06-25-2008 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BoBcanada
ford gt500 will own both with minimal tuning.
nuh uh...


Old 06-25-2008 | 11:29 PM
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just for reference here is a chipped alone V2 335i coupe vs a 6spd e92 m3.
two videos

http://www.vimeo.com/1057389


FWIW, i think the real question is, what car will win on a track. it seems that the 335i puts up just about the same skid pad, braking, Slalom numbers. i wonder how a V2 335i would do on the track aganist a c63.
FWIW, the 335i runs on RFT tires. its a very impressive car when looked closely at, with better tires then the RFT, it can probably out brake, Slalom, and skid pad the c63 without a problem.

FWIW, i also just put my order in for my PP C63
Old 06-26-2008 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SOCAL55
just for reference here is a chipped alone V2 335i coupe vs a 6spd e92 m3.
two videos

http://www.vimeo.com/1057389


FWIW, i think the real question is, what car will win on a track. it seems that the 335i puts up just about the same skid pad, braking, Slalom numbers. i wonder how a V2 335i would do on the track aganist a c63.
FWIW, the 335i runs on RFT tires. its a very impressive car when looked closely at, with better tires then the RFT, it can probably out brake, Slalom, and skid pad the c63 without a problem.

FWIW, i also just put my order in for my PP C63
Sorry but NO WAY is a stock 335i going to beat a c63 in braking, slalom or anything! With the standard 3 series chassis and brakes and no LSD??? You must be kidding me? you might be right if you are talking about a 335i coupe with the M sport chassis and upgraded brakes, but common a standard 300bhp 3-series??? I think I am going to stop reading these posts, because not long ago to say that a regular standard 3-series with a littlebit more power than a standard car will beat a AMG with a 150hp advantage and huge brakes, would probably end in banning that person, but now it seems to be a trend. The STANDARD 335i wont be even close.

Have you ever driven one to say this???

Ok! lets take this further. I have driven the 335i several times and got similar gps:ed times for an E39 540IA M-sport than a standard sedan 335iA when tested.

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Originally Posted by kip
Sorry but NO WAY is a stock 335i going to beat a c63 in braking, slalom or anything! With the standard 3 series chassis and brakes and no LSD??? You must be kidding me? you might be right if you are talking about a 335i coupe with the M sport chassis and upgraded brakes, but common a standard 300bhp 3-series??? I think I am going to stop reading these posts, because not long ago to say that a regular standard 3-series with a littlebit more power than a standard car will beat a AMG with a 150hp advantage and huge brakes, would probably end in banning that person, but now it seems to be a trend. The STANDARD 335i wont be even close.

Have you ever driven one to say this???

Ok! lets take this further. I have driven the 335i several times and got similar gps:ed times for an E39 540IA M-sport than a standard sedan 335iA when tested.

You may be underestimating the 335i. Edmunds testing shows the the E92 335i outperformed the C63 in braking, the slalom, and received an "excellent" handling rating to the C63s "very good." Both cars' skid pad numbers were at .89g. The E92 was on stock runflats.

335i Testing - Edmunds


C63 Testing - Edmunds


I have the 335i. It is no slouch. I know it is no C63, but it certainly offers impressive performance for the money particularly with the cheap piggybacks available.

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