hcy

i would like to know how much did ur dealer charge you for the admin fee, fuel tax, green levy fee ,freight & pdi and etc. From canadian buyers thank you.

jarjoug

I got charged $250, 0, $2000 and $1650 for what you listed.

George

NORTH 44 C63

Hey George, Don't they rate the C63 at 13.5 ltr/100 klm combined?? That would put the Levy at $1000...no?

jarjoug

Barry I am not sure, but I have a feeling you are right, I think the dealer is just taking every penny they can from me because I don't bother arguing much. I am going to investigate this and take it back to them.


Thank G-D for this forum, I am learning so much.

George

JohnEnglish

Every dealer I talk to said the green levy was $2000.

kimiFan

I was told the same, & I PAID! the same, I wont be to happy to find out I could have saved a grand. This nex tax is new to me, maybe I should have done a little more homework on that topic. if it's true, then once again the dealers are scamming money out of their customers again. Do they not have any ethic's? Oh yeah, I forgot who I was talking about.

It's just awesome. Do your homework! I thought I had, you learn something everyday

whoover

"Green levy"? That sounds so much more elegant than "gas guzzler tax."

It makes we want to go to Victoria to take afternoon tea at the Empress.

1st amg

The green levy and fuel tax came out to $2100.00, though they did discount it for me.

NORTH 44 C63

Sounds about right Nick.

Problem was I was expecting the Guzzler Tax but wasn't aware of the Green Levy. Guess I should pay attention to the news once and awhile LOL. Isn't that a little like double dipping.....Oh Yah, I forgot where we live....

These are the tables:

Gas Guzzler Tax

Highway Fuel Use Ratings
(Litres / 100 Km) Tax on New Passenger Vehicles (dollars)
Under 6.0 $0
6.0 to 7.9 $75
8.0 to 8.9 $75
9.0 to 9.4 $250
9.5 to 12.0 $1,200
12.1 to 15.0 $2,400
15.1 to 18.0 $4,400
over 18.0 $7,000

GREEN LEVY CHARGES

Fuel efficiency (L/100 km)
13.0 - 13.9 $1,000
14.0 - 14.9 $2,000
15.0 - 15.9 $3,000
16.0 or more $4,000

So a C63 is $1200 Guzzler and $1000 Green Levy for a $2200 hit

C63///AMG

Correct me if im wrong

According to MB germeny(since there is no fuel consumption info in MB canada yet)

C63: city: 20.9L/100km
highway: 9.2L/100km
combined: 13.4L/100km

the fuel tax should be at 9.0 to 9.4 level for $250

green levy is correct at 13.0-13.9 for $1000

1st amg

My bill of sale here in Ontario was $1200.00

NORTH 44 C63

C63///AMG may have a point.

I am off to fight for the cause. Stay tuned.

calgaryc63amg

My dealer wants to charge me $2000 also.

NORTH 44 C63

OK....

This is the latest; Transport Canada has yet to rate the either of the 2008 or 2009 C63's in its listing so its all guess work at this point. Anyone that has already paid the taxes stay tuned for the final results and you may be in for a rebate (Or not).

That said MB Germany does rate the C63 at 9.2Ltr/100Klm Highway and 13.4Ltr/100Klm combined.

Based on that our Green Levy should be $1000 and the Gas Tax at $250.

Time will tell. I am all over this one so stay tuned

NORTH 44 C63

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C63///AMG, Can you please forward me your link to the quoted MB Germany fuel ratings that you found? I can't locate it and need it to push this further.

Thanks for your help and time

C63///AMG

http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/...ical_data.html

then choose C63
then ull find this in the tech data list

Kraftstoffverbrauch innerorts (l/100 km) – (20,9)
Kraftstoffverbrauch außerorts (l/100 km) – (9,2)
Kraftstoffverbrauch kombiniert (l/100 km) – (13,4)

NORTH 44 C63

Thanks AMG///C63 for the link.

Here is the "Official" Transport Canada-MB Canada Consumption/Tax-Levy ratings (Attached pdf). I have highlighted the C63 and E63 for comparison. The E rates better according to Transport Canada and way off the ratings provided by MBDE shown here:

2009 AMG C63
Kraftstoffverbrauch innerorts (l/100 km) (20,9)
Kraftstoffverbrauch außerorts (l/100 km) (9,2)
Kraftstoffverbrauch kombiniert (l/100 km) (13,4)

2009 AMG E63
Kraftstoffverbrauch innerorts (l/100 km) (22,3)
Kraftstoffverbrauch außerorts (l/100 km) (9,8)
Kraftstoffverbrauch kombiniert (l/100 km) (14,3)

Based on the data from MBDE the Gas Guzzler tax should be $250 base on 9.2L/100km Hwy and the Green Levy should be $1000 based on 13.4L/100km Combined

Based on the data from MB Canada via Transport Canada the Gas Guzzler tax is $1200 based on 10.4L/100km Hwy and the Green Levy is $2000 based on 14.14L/100km Combined

Thats a $1950.00 difference

Something isn't right here.

I'm up for a fight>>> I have a call into MB Canada customer relations and my MP (Member of Parliament) to pursue.

I will keep you all informed of any progress (or not)

Wish me luck

jarjoug

I thought the percentage of octane made a difference, higher octane in Europe mean less consumption. Am I missing anything here?

George

C63///AMG

yes, there are some mistakes in MB.ca forsure, and always, like the C63 curb weight, now it equals the weight as the C350 4matic.....

back to the fuel consumption issue.
like the E63, in MB.CA it's 17.2 L/100 km highway and 10.8 L/100 km local.
comparing to MB.DE it's 22.3 L/100 km highway and 9.8 L/100 km local.

If some1 say it's because european octane different from North America, so makes the consumption difference. then howcome the MB.CA local consumption are less than MB.DE, and highway is more than MB.DE??? I think MB Canada did this in purpose, since the fuel tax is base on the highway’s rate, so they put a larger number in highway and combined. So the government gets more $$$$$$$$.


anyway, good luck on your fight, we all wish u can win.

NORTH 44 C63

Update:

If you compare the Transport Canada 2008 #'s on the E63 they match the 2009 C63 and the 2009 E63 has a much better rating then 2008. Looks like a bureaucrat mixed the data....

I’m on it. My MP is investigating

jarjoug

Yeah, good luck Barry.

George

C63///AMG

hope ull get an answer back asap.

However, I think, they wont change the fuel consumption rate. They might just say something like: the fuel consumption is tested by Canadian spec vehicle and may be different from the Eurpean spec. OR something like MB ppl tested it whatever the test results are.....

Anyhow, we all hope u can change the history, that make them change the fuel consumption rate or match MB.DE, and then YOU ARE THE MAN!!!
(although i am the one who enlightened you, but U the ONE who changed the history tho, hehe)
once again, GOOD LUCK!

C63///AMG

any response yet?

NORTH 44 C63

My Mp called this morning and estimated a few more days to get an answer.
MB Canada is looking into it as well.

Shooff

Any answer yet on the current charges of $2000 dollars for the green levy tax ?


Too high? Just right? Going down :-) ?