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Old 04-09-2009, 10:33 PM
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Well I'll be,.... dem thinks look good Razor. Daaaammmmmm! I was considering having my wheels chromed, but you've opened up a new door. If I'm not being too forward, what did the process set you back? And,... what was is a reasonable turn-a-round? They look awfully good,...especially on a Raven. Nice touch!

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Originally Posted by ericpd
Well I'll be,.... dem thinks look good Razor. Daaaammmmmm! I was considering having my wheels chromed, but you've opened up a new door. If I'm not being too forward, what did the process set you back? And,... what was is a reasonable turn-a-round? They look awful good,...especially on a Raven. Nice touch!
Thanks ! it was roughly $175.00 per wheel, w/out shipping of course. The turn around was i'd say about 3 weeks. Best part is if they get caked in brake dust than they'll just look satin black - we also have an ml63 in the family and i still think that the V interior is very comparable. Not exactly on the same level. But nothing that really warrants a 30k difference.

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Razorecko, apologize if I offended you. I know you are a former or fellow Jeep SRT8 driver.
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Originally Posted by liquiddi
Razorecko, apologize if I offended you. I know you are a former or fellow Jeep SRT8 driver.
hey no worries man - like i said we have a mb in the family also - my main reason for going for the v was the stick shift , I could have went with the stick in the new m5 but i heard those were prettty crappy considering they were just thrown in to appease the true bimmer crowd
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Yeah, I heard that car was having gobs of problems.I also heard it was awfully fast.
I have both the GT-R and C63. They're both awfully fast. The GT-R is much easier to drive quickly and I know of at least 11 other GT-R owners that are having no problems whatsoever with theirs. Nissan recently released a TCU software update that prevents you from abusing the GT-R's transmission when launching from a standstill. The GT-R was not designed to be driven for the purpose of drag racing, but was built to be a track superstar. Neither was the C63, but rather it is an autobahn burner.
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CTS-V wins best inteior!

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I have both the GT-R and C63. They're both awfully fast. The GT-R is much easier to drive quickly and I know of at least 11 other GT-R owners that are having no problems whatsoever with theirs. Nissan recently released a TCU software update that prevents you from abusing the GT-R's transmission when launching from a standstill. The GT-R was not designed to be driven for the purpose of drag racing, but was built to be a track superstar. Neither was the C63, but rather it is an autobahn burner.
I was realllly considering the GTR. But in the end it came down to the fact that one's a stickshift, maintenance cost, and the fact if i get stranded somewhere should something happen it could be a realy b*tch to get to a GTR certified dealer. I had the dealer swap my oil, trans, & diff fluid at 700miles this week. Cost me all of $450.00 more money into the mod pot.
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I was realllly considering the GTR. But in the end it came down to the fact that one's a stickshift, maintenance cost, and the fact if i get stranded somewhere should something happen it could be a realy b*tch to get to a GTR certified dealer. I had the dealer swap my oil, trans, & diff fluid at 700miles this week. Cost me all of $450.00 more money into the mod pot.
You dealer charged you for the under 1000 fluid swap???? That was a no charge at my dealership. Not sure if it was a dealership thing or GM thing, but they gave me full cost vouchers for fluids, bulbs and wiper inserts when I bought the car. $450,... that's kinda steep man. I pay MB only $279 for a fluid swap on the C32,... that's an auto.

And as for the interior, I compared the C63 to the V with a very concerning eye, and while there are differences, the V's interior is hardly cheap. I wouldn't use that word for either interior. I do think the V's interior is better laid out and has a slight edge on functionality. And like with Razor, the manual trans option was a key consideration for me as well. And everything I read suggested the TR6060 was a serious and reliable box.
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^ hey eric, you only paid 260$ to flush out your oil, trans, and diff fluid ? - all 3 ?! , if so thats a steal.
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^ hey eric, you only paid 260$ to flush out your oil, trans, and diff fluid ? - all 3 ?! , if so thats a steal.
No,... $279+tax. And I believe it was all 3. I know it was engine and trans. Hold on,... lemme run out an take a look at the service event records. They're in my pouch.
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^ i'd be really suprised since just the fluids would amount to nearly that cost
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Yep,... $279 for all three. This was a part of my 'Service B', which came to a total of $565. Items 5,6, & 8 where fluids and priced out @ $279. Looks like the rest was for charcoal and air filters, to re-tap a screw on the left air filter housing, bushing lube and a battery of other inspection items.
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Originally Posted by ericpd
Yep,... $279 for all three. This was a part of my 'Service B', which came to a total of $565. Items 5,6, & 8 where fluids and priced out @ $279. Looks like the rest was for charcoal and air filters, to re-tap a screw on the left air filter housing, bushing lube and a battery of other inspection items.
wow, thats pretty good !
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wow, thats pretty good !
I don't know though Razor,... maybe you're right and the price was discounted because it was part of the Service B. I did walk outta there dropping a little over 5 bills don't forget. Maybe it would have been in line with what you say had I just requested the fluid swap alone.

I just did a google for Chrome Plating in my area. What should I be looking for when reviewing some of these company's web sites? Should I be looking for shops to do auto/motorcycles only? Or maybe a shop that uses a particular process? Never had anything chrome plated before, let alone wheels. And if I can find a shop locally, I won't have to worry about shipping and buying an extra pair of shoes for the V, while the dress shoes are out at the cobblers.
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I have both the GT-R and C63. They're both awfully fast. The GT-R is much easier to drive quickly and I know of at least 11 other GT-R owners that are having no problems whatsoever with theirs. Nissan recently released a TCU software update that prevents you from abusing the GT-R's transmission when launching from a standstill. The GT-R was not designed to be driven for the purpose of drag racing, but was built to be a track superstar. Neither was the C63, but rather it is an autobahn burner.
Dam bro, that must be siiick having both cars... I wish...

The main reason I didn’t opt for the GT-R was because of the tranny issues, I heavily considered it for a while before going with the Benz (I drive my cars pretty hard most of the time).
That makes sense that GT-R's shouldn’t really be used for drag racing; Japanese cars are not really built for that...

When you say its easier to drive quicker what do you mean exactly? Because of the handling/control?
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BEEMAZE,

I see in your sig that you purchased the Tesla Roadster... What made you decide to go with that? Plus what are the performance numbers on that thing??
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BEEMAZE,

I see in your sig that you purchased the Tesla Roadster... What made you decide to go with that? Plus what are the performance numbers on that thing??
Tesla Motors is my friends' company. I'm still waiting for delivery this May. 0-60 around 3.9-4.1. Off the line it's crazy quick, no drama like in a C63 or even the GT-R. Top speed 130.
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Dam bro, that must be siiick having both cars... I wish...

The main reason I didn’t opt for the GT-R was because of the tranny issues, I heavily considered it for a while before going with the Benz (I drive my cars pretty hard most of the time).
That makes sense that GT-R's shouldn’t really be used for drag racing; Japanese cars are not really built for that...

When you say its easier to drive quicker what do you mean exactly? Because of the handling/control?
Exactly. It's still a heavy car, but it defies the laws of physics.
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Tesla Motors is my friends' company. I'm still waiting for delivery this May. 0-60 around 3.9-4.1. Off the line it's crazy quick, no drama like in a C63 or even the GT-R. Top speed 130.
Daaam thats quick!

Top speed 130?? makes no sense...

How much do one of those go for?
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I was realllly considering the GTR. But in the end it came down to the fact that one's a stickshift, maintenance cost, and the fact if i get stranded somewhere should something happen it could be a realy b*tch to get to a GTR certified dealer. I had the dealer swap my oil, trans, & diff fluid at 700miles this week. Cost me all of $450.00 more money into the mod pot.
Actually, the GT-R is not a stick shift, but an automated manual...
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Daaam thats quick!

Top speed 130?? makes no sense...

How much do one of those go for?
Electronically limited.

Cost = low 100k, but you do get a $7500 tax credit!
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you can't beat electric for off the line torque
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Well folks,... had my first serious malfunction today. No Reverse! Did some pretty aggressive shifting over the weekend, but it worked fine up until end of work today. Had to get help pushing me out of my parking space at work. Real embarrassing. Called the dealership and got a a.m. visit tomorrow,... glad it's Friday. Will report the outcome.

BTW,... had a C55 jump on me a little over a week ago. Dispatched his *** in quick fashion. But still, that's saying little,... the 55's are only marginally quicker than the 32's. Venue was not the best also!
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Uh oh, thats crap, hope it works out, anyone having any problem with any new vehicle hurts,no matter if its the competition or not.
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Hey eric, how many miles on your v ? - hopefully its something minor and nothing to do with the reverse synchro's


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