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Old 07-14-2009, 02:27 PM
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My cars has a MHP V3 ECU/TCU last Dyno was 428 rw 5th gear sae corrected
I raced m5's and m6's and I have NO problem beating them I also raced the stock c63 and beat it by 5 cars. We going to Dyno both our cars but the e55 is stock besides the pump.

As far a weight goes. We were about the same I'm 180 plus a 225 passenger


There's the problem. If you can beat M5/M6 how can you lose to a stock e55.

Did the e55 owner buy the car used or new? Is it possible the car could have been tuned before he/she purchased it?

What makes you so sure the e55 was stock?

I don't know much about superchargers but is it possible to add a boost controller like for turbos? Does adding downpipes free up 50+ hp for supercharged vehicles too?
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That does suck but something doesn't seem right. I've seen a few stock c63 vs stock e55 videos and the e55 doesn't dominate as you have experienced.

The C63 is only slightly slower than a e55 which is slightly slower than a M5/M6. It is already known that a C63 with a ECU can beat even a M6.

On paper stock for stock the e55 and our car is pretty even (up to 120 mph). I don't know how a stock e55 will dominate a 520 hp tuned C63.
Is the driver...
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Originally Posted by lyotomachida
There's the problem. If you can beat M5/M6 how can you lose to a stock e55.

Did the e55 owner buy the car used or new? Is it possible the car could have been tuned before he/she purchased it?

What makes you so sure the e55 was stock?

I don't know much about superchargers but is it possible to add a boost controller like for turbos? Does adding downpipes free up 50+ hp for supercharged vehicles too?
I know for sure I can beat m5's and m6's I raced 3 diff m5's and same storie. I raced 2 m6's. One I beat by alot one I beat by 1/2 car from 80-130

We ganna do Dyno's together one day and Race same day just to show everyone that he is stock
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Is the driver...
I can have my girlfriend drive the car and it would be thè same results. Automatic tranny is automatic that all u cant screw that up. I held my car on it's power band and I still got beat. 2nd 45 mph

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I can have my girlfriend drive the car and it would be thè same results. Automatic tranny is automatic that all u can screw that up. I held my car on it's power band and I still got beat. 2nd 45 mph
Race in manual mode, better results
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I don't know much about superchargers but is it possible to add a boost controller like for turbos?
No. The smaller the pulley = the faster the blower spins = more boost.
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Race in manual mode, better results
This is just my personal belief but I think manual mode it will be worse. If you hammer the gas, and try shifting at red line in manual mode you can see the car takes longer to shift if you watch the rpms. Its like the car slightly over revs then shifts to the next highest gear. Where as in port mode if you paddle shift down and hammer it the car will shift itself at red line without that over rev lag. This is just in IMO from experimenting.
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I dont know what this guy has done to his E55, but I have a stock GTR in the area, I'd like to see how the E55 matches up to the GTR... if it comes anywhere near me - my thoughts are hes not stock... whether he knows it or not is his business
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Originally Posted by M3 GTR
I dont know what this guy has done to his E55, but I have a stock GTR in the area, I'd like to see how the E55 matches up to the GTR... if it comes anywhere near me - my thoughts are hes not stock... whether he knows it or not is his business
I'm the one who raced both C63's I'm 100% STOCK. I have only upgraded to the CM30 pump. I'm in queens where are you from. I would love to run your car. I will happily go do a dyno with MTHIS and race right afterwards. He knows I'm 100% game for it. If I was modded i would be abusing them. Let me know where you from so we can set this up. ROoling runs because I dont have a gods chance from 0.
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Originally Posted by M3 GTR
I dont know what this guy has done to his E55, but I have a stock GTR in the area, I'd like to see how the E55 matches up to the GTR... if it comes anywhere near me - my thoughts are hes not stock... whether he knows it or not is his business
What year is your M3?

P.s. camera man for e55 vs Gtr <
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I'm still uploading the videos of my races with the stock C63. You will see that I don't pass it by much. If I was modded I would be burning the stock c63. My comp is super slow right now.
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Keep in mind, mthis had a extra 200lb+ passenger in the car with him if that means anything, E55 was alone.

Race between stock C63 and stock C63 both were single drivers race.
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Originally Posted by mthis
I know for sure I can beat m5's and m6's I raced 3 diff m5's and same storie. I raced 2 m6's. One I beat by alot one I beat by 1/2 car from 80-130

We ganna do Dyno's together one day and Race same day just to show everyone that he is stock
I'm off sunday, monday, I get out of work usually 4 everyday, I can get out 2-230 if I have too. Let me know wats best for you and we'll make this happen. I can't believe this krazy crap. I go thru all this to come out 2 race both cars I'm 100% stock and now I'm all of a sudden modded. Did any1 think that maybe something is wrong with his tune?? Come on guys I'm not 10 so stop with the BS. I will get this done as soon possible to shut every1 down, I'm basically being called a liar because I'm telling everyone I'm stock. Time will tell and we'll have everything on camera for you guys.
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Originally Posted by bushburninc63
Did a little research and found this.

So you raced him 5 months back and you beat him with your stock tune and now with the mhp tune you lost to him?
I will disagree with this. I got beat from 0 due to horrible tires. The rolling races I pulled ahead on him every time.
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The C63 driver told me that Mthis beat him by 2 car lengths.........I beat the stock C63 by just about the same. When me and Mthis race I get 1/2 car in front as the video shows. I have the videos uploading now but they are taking forever. You guys will see that I'm not easily pulling on the stock C63 which will show you it's Mthis car with the problem. When you guys make up excuses and other stuff about that I will get the dyno and run Mthis to furthur shut this down.
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listen- I'm not trying to have a problem... this is all in good fun- you have a beautiful car...but I dont think you have a chance against my GTR with a stock E55.. but either way I would love to do it...

I am 20 years old and way 130... i will be in the car by myself not to risk anyone else getting hurt...

my E92 is a 2008 ... loaded , white-ecterior, red- interior... carbon fiber roof, upgraded leather, and upgraded sound


i work nights sunday - thursday ... weekends are always obviously best for me ..
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listen- I'm not trying to have a problem... this is all in good fun- you have a beautiful car...but I dont think you have a chance against my GTR with a stock E55.. but either way I would love to do it...

I am 20 years old and way 130... i will be in the car by myself not to risk anyone else getting hurt...

my E92 is a 2008 ... loaded , white-ecterior, red- interior... carbon fiber roof, upgraded leather, and upgraded sound


i work nights sunday - thursday ... weekends are always obviously best for me ..
Who gives a **** about your E92? Insecure aren't you?
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were u doing digs or rolls ????????????????? Should be doing digs IMO but i figure your car with 428 to the wheels should be alot quicker i take it u got traction problems ???????????
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Originally Posted by M3 GTR
listen- I'm not trying to have a problem... this is all in good fun- you have a beautiful car...but I dont think you have a chance against my GTR with a stock E55.. but either way I would love to do it...

I am 20 years old and way 130... i will be in the car by myself not to risk anyone else getting hurt...

my E92 is a 2008 ... loaded , white-ecterior, red- interior... carbon fiber roof, upgraded leather, and upgraded sound


i work nights sunday - thursday ... weekends are always obviously best for me ..
I don't have a chance in hell and I know that but I still would like to run you just because I love cars. You said you would like to run me and now I'm accepting your offer. It's all for fun like you said. About not having a problem, well people questiong me being stock or not is a problem because I'm telling every1 I'm stock. We shoulda done the stock c63 vs mthis c63 to see that 5 car lengths because thats not possible. Anyway my videos should be up shortly.
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Alright guys i can say 200% that E55AMGGG04, E55 is stock... The way he beat the stock C63 and other cars is not what a modded E55 would be like, if he was modded, it would ALOT worse.


Originally Posted by M3 GTR
listen- I'm not trying to have a problem... this is all in good fun- you have a beautiful car...but I dont think you have a chance against my GTR with a stock E55.. but either way I would love to do it...

I am 20 years old and way 130... i will be in the car by myself not to risk anyone else getting hurt...

my E92 is a 2008 ... loaded , white-ecterior, red- interior... carbon fiber roof, upgraded leather, and upgraded sound


i work nights sunday - thursday ... weekends are always obviously best for me ..
Is your M3 M-DCT or 6spd? wouldnt mind running it

You are damn light tho!! I am about 90 pounds over on you.


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Who gives a **** about your E92? Insecure aren't you?
I actually asked him.
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I put the digital camera on my head rest... Other videos still loading.

Stock E55 vs Stock C63 rolling start at 40mph

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByIy7TGpVfQ


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