i heard from my stealer that the 63 was being discontuned
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i heard from my stealer that the 63 was being discontuned
he said the MB was under pressure to make more fuel efficient car across the entire line and were going to make smaller engines (ie. the 55) do you think MB might go back to the 55 engine with a supercharger for the c amg? that would explain the increase in hp for 2011.
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Then why would they be releasing the W 212 E 63 now? In that case, It would be a less than a year life span for it! Doesnt make sense to me.
I d say somebody really messed up the planning of the AMG engine line up if what your dealer says is true. Perhaps in by 2012 or so , maybe. We'll see though. I sure as hell wouldnt wanna buy a 63 only for them to switch it up to a new engine months after i bought it....
I d say somebody really messed up the planning of the AMG engine line up if what your dealer says is true. Perhaps in by 2012 or so , maybe. We'll see though. I sure as hell wouldnt wanna buy a 63 only for them to switch it up to a new engine months after i bought it....
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AMG is going back to the 5.5L motors but it will have Turbo's no supercharged. and it will be released on the new CLS 1st. then the whole line up will get it, but the C class wont get the 5.5L TT they working on a smalled motor for the C, and SLK, it will also be a TT motor. but smaller.
this is going to be by far the most powerfully N/A motor the AMG will ever offer on a C class so i would get it and keep it.
remember there is no replacement for displacements.
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FWIW, the new SLS will have a upgraded 6.3 dry sump motor.
. So the 6.3 isn't going away soon. Maybe in two years we'll see some new products start to trickel out of Affalterbach. You won't see a supercharger but you may very well see a turbo. Turbo power has smoother application of torque allowing lighter drive line componets which keeps weight down and better fuel efficiency.
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AMG is going back to the 5.5L motors but it will have Turbo's no supercharged. and it will be released on the new CLS 1st. then the whole line up will get it, but the C class wont get the 5.5L TT they working on a smalled motor for the C, and SLK, it will also be a TT motor. but smaller.
this is going to be by far the most powerfully N/A motor the AMG will ever offer on a C class so i would get it and keep it.
remember there is no replacement for displacements.
this is going to be by far the most powerfully N/A motor the AMG will ever offer on a C class so i would get it and keep it.
remember there is no replacement for displacements.
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btw -- It's my understanding that MB will be adding direct injection into these 63 AMG engines to help increase fuel efficiency. I wouldn't doubt that MB will soon go back to F/I whether TT (like BMW) or S/C, but that may be a few years off, and it would be completely stupid for MB to discontinue the C63 AMG given the success and praise it has received. 
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mthis hit the nail on the head!
AMG is going back to the 5.5L motors but it will have Turbo's no supercharged. and it will be released on the new CLS 1st. then the whole line up will get it, but the C class wont get the 5.5L TT they working on a smalled motor for the C, and SLK, it will also be a TT motor. but smaller.
this is going to be by far the most powerfully N/A motor the AMG will ever offer on a C class so i would get it and keep it.
remember there is no replacement for displacements.
this is going to be by far the most powerfully N/A motor the AMG will ever offer on a C class so i would get it and keep it.
remember there is no replacement for displacements.
This info has been leaked before by "sources" at AMG.
Direct injection, Turbos, Smaller displacement, all are part of the master plan to remain competitive.
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It's the exact opposite for me...I pulled the trigger on a C63 because I want the current engine. The big-block naturally aspirated motors from most all mfrs will be history in the very near future. FWIW I was paging through the newest Performance Car mag yesterday...commenting on the new E63 Coupe they said something like "with a motor this good why bother with forced induction"...and called the C63 "magically overendowed" as fitted with the current 6.3L. I concur 100%.
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I agree there is no guarantee that the next generation engine will be superior. For example, many people think the E9x M3 is < the E46 M3. But, there are 2 things that tend to be more true than not:
1) the next generation cars are faster
2) the former generation car owners predict the new generation cars will be inferior
1) the next generation cars are faster
2) the former generation car owners predict the new generation cars will be inferior
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I won't be suprised if they went force induction and give the new C63 extra 10 or 20 hp with better fuel economy
Personally I am a big fan of the current 6.2V8 as I believe its a perfect engine that has a good balance between power and torque. It also has the potential to deliver 600hp and rev to 7500rpm.
Personally I am a big fan of the current 6.2V8 as I believe its a perfect engine that has a good balance between power and torque. It also has the potential to deliver 600hp and rev to 7500rpm.
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the 2011 c63 will get a hp incease and mct, (part of pp2 pack) that will be the last year for the c63, then a new face or rear lift. and new motor.
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I agree there is no guarantee that the next generation engine will be superior. For example, many people think the E9x M3 is < the E46 M3. But, there are 2 things that tend to be more true than not:
1) the next generation cars are faster
2) the former generation car owners predict the new generation cars will be inferior
1) the next generation cars are faster
2) the former generation car owners predict the new generation cars will be inferior
on top of that they need to do FI motors b/c its the last couple year they will have the horse power wars and then when 2015 comes around say good buy to does high horse power cars.
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i'm with happy with the output of the C63. i dont car if the new car has more hp. i don't race but i do use my 63 as a passing car. i would not change for a car with more hp. i'm saving g up for a z1 corvette for a real sports car. that is the car of my dreams, forget the 135I as a daly driver i will wait for the corvette. the c 63 can be my daly driver.
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That is also why I wanted the C63 because it could be the last "big motor" in a C-Class AMG.
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"The dry sump lubrication for the M159 comprises a suction pump, a pressure pump and an external 5-litre oil reservoir fitted in front of the engine. 13.5 litres of oil circulate thoughtout the entire system. The oil suction pump draws the oil directly from the crank chambers and the cylinder heads and pumps it to the external oil reservoir at a maxiumum rate of 700 liters per minute."...
The hydraulic oil pump, designed as a pendulum-side vane pump, transports the oil from the external oil reservoir back into the engine, thus ensuring reliable engine lubrication even with the kind of high lateral acceleration commonly experienced on a private racing circuit."
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