Dads C63

I find it interesting that when someone unexpected wins a race the guy driving the car that lost must not know how to drive? Could it possibly be because the car is actually faster under the conditions of the race? I believe the C63 is VERY strong top end. It doesn't seem to give up.

What will a stock C6 Z06 pull on the dyno?
What does it weigh?
Whats the gearing and transmission set up?

Does anyone know who this guy is?

The C63 does has a tranny advantage with this seven speed.

vinnyz

stock z06 has 505hp and 435-445rwhp.. and ur at what 472rwhp in 96 degree temps .. hmm i have 521rwhp in the cool so lets see 521 rwhp is close to 80 more than z06

jturkel

which is a lot more, until you consider that a C6 Z06 only weighs 3132 lbs and a C63 AMG weighs 3993 lbs. so the C6 Z06 weighs like 850 lbs less

and is also more aerodynamic, which become more important at speeds.

6.3AMG

There is no comparison between the two. modded or not. Nevermind the HP difference, but the weight difference alone is substantial. The c63 is a point and shoot car with the auto tranny. anyone can drive one and race. The Z06 is a more driver involved car. With a capable driver, the Z06 is a VERY potent car stock, nevermind modded. I like the C63 a lot. I think its a very good car. I would have loved to see it with a manual tranny and atleast 500lbs lighter. That would be a hell of a car and i'm sure a lot of fun. Trying to get my brother to get one.

vinnyz

for me it was fun racing one on the highway cause i have only raced them at the track .. whats funny was keith and were talking about getting my friends and making a video , then on his was home he does it without me darn it lol... i do agree the z06 is fast very fast .. with me i have the hp and the 560 rwtq and tq gets u there hp just keeps u there ...

ricky bobbie

Dads did i see u on toll road racing a vette ... i was coming the other way and saw your car and vette screaming by

C63 Guy

From personal experience I can say a heavily modded C63 still won't hang with a Z06.

And I'm not psyched about it.

On one of our Mexico runs I was staged with a "stock" Z06 and a modded 996 turbo and It seemed like someone put 87 octane in my tank. Those guys creamed me. I still don't quite believe the Z06 was bone stock, but nonetheless I'm impressed with it. I'm not as upset about the 996 turbo. It was dyno'd at 575 wheel...

Josh

dmyrick

hey you probably did better than they expected, besides your the only one that can carry a family of five. lol

vinnyz

how modded is ur car ? dads63 has every mod possible and a 100 octane tune plus he had it in the car lastnite believe me i smelt it when he was talkking to me before he left

OMGAMG

no c63 will ever come close to a stock Z with the right driver..no matter what you do to it.

C63newdude

I never lost a raced on my modded C6 Z06 either, in fact, there should be a silver E55(Kompressor) owner on this forum that will never forget the demolishing spanking I presented to him on Tucson BLVD here in Tucson about 2-3 months ago. He had no chances, I pulled not cars, not buses but train lengths on him but I don't talk about it.

The E55s are quick, the C6 Z06 are quicker. I can go to the corvetteforum and bring you a bunch on links of people running mid 10s with just cams and headers, can you run that?

The topic here is C63 AMG vs Z06. I insist the Z06 will win. Perhaps this will refresh your memory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBWeXXXxHLk

I posted links with Z06 running high 10's stock and trapping 129 bone stock. There are dozen of other average Z06 owners that ran their first time at the track and also ran 11.1@128. You probably won agaisnt an inexperience driver and you probably have mods. I don't doubt you won a few races but from a roll a C6 Z06 with a good driver just walks aways on a C63 AMG. The Z06 are capable of trapping higher.

C63newdude

Here is the C63 AMG losing to two different regular C6 vettes(not even the Z06). Remember, on the C63 all you have to do is press the gas pedal so there is no "bad driver" we are all the same. Don't forget that I ain't on either side but I owned both and I keep telling you the C6 Z06 is faster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXXjmYiZ5J8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uByJL...eature=related

hhughes1

I learned long ago that the word "never" is a poor choice during performance car conversations. As I understand, the assertion here is that a stock C6 Z06 will always outperform a C63( regardless of mods) in every competive environment whether it be a standing 1/4, standing mile or high speed shoot out from a roll. I have a fairly good understanding of the physics involved here and the weight advantage is huge but so many other variables are also involved. I tend to believe that if a stock Z06 loses from a dig then it is an issue with the talent of the driver. But highway runs from a roll are less driver involved and if the Vette driver cleanly selects the right gear given the starting speed the rest is primarily car versus car. Aerodynamics would seem to favor the Vette but the rolling resistance and rotational weight of the 325 and 275 setup may counter. How tall is the rear end gear for the Z06 as well as the 5 and 6 gear ratios? We could go on and on but if Keith says he caught a C6 Z06 that had pulled a cl on him then it happened pure and simple. He would have known and disclosed if the other driver missed a shift so it was a clean contest. I was not there but I can vouch for his integrity and if he had gotten beat then he would have said so. I have seen him take his car up to 190+ chasing a friend's CGT which literally sand blasted the paint off of Keith's front end. Since then he has been focused on the mile run having lowered the car, found 50 more rwhp with the MHP headers and added lighter HRE's, lighter rotors and narrower PS2's all in pursuit of the fastest top speed possible. The Z06 is an awesome car right off the lot and is a much better choice for an extreme performance tool. But "never" is a tough word to back up.

benscott01

I was the one who was with/ behind Keith on Friday night when he raced the Vette. I will say, that it was a VERY close race. They ran across each other out of pure luck and hooked up on a toll road entrance (must have been something to do with a "sedan" taunting the vette with it's "mild" sounding exhaust that sparked the Vette's interest), beacuse he was no where near getting on the toll road but somehow ended up in line behind Keith. After entering the highway, the 2 of them ran for a minute until hitting traffic, where I finally caught up to them. And then they toyed with each other for a minute, and when the cars dissappeared, the flood gates to a wide open road "bridge", and it was time....... The 2 of them were running a modest 70-80ish and both got a pretty close jump onto the throttle. It was a pretty clear night, and I could see everything pretty clear. The 2 of them were VERY close, and only at the very end of the run did Keith begin to pull on the Vette. You can mark it up to bad driver, mis-shift, or whatever you what, fact is Keith pulled on him. This debate of car for car, driver for driver is really open to debate, because we'll probally never get that option (unless set-up on a track day), so what you see is what you get. AMG C63 vs Z06, with their respected owners/ drivers in a true "street race"===== C63 pulled away this time. Could the outcome be different with a different car/ driver...... of course. This is just our experience for this one..... Hope this clears up some questions.


As for me hating seeing them pull away (As VinnyZ mentioned)... it's all good. Now i just know how he feels at the track looking at the tail end of a C-Class that just out ran his E-Class.......Don't make me post the videos..... It's all in good fun Vinny....

juicee63

The car does not drive itself. A Z06 can lose to a C63 especially on a drag strip.
Yeah sure on paper, sure in magazines the Z06 demolishes all AMG cars but in real light to light situations the AMG has won and can win.

What so many folks seem to forget the Z is wiggly and it can lose it easily.

I beat a Z06 on the track more than once, and yes I realize the car is much faster than mine.
A heavily modded 63 or 55 could definately hang with a stock Z , we had a E55 just trap 1 3 0 mph in positive DA.

The best pass to date at sac for a stock Z06 is 11.4x so yeah Alan's E55 would beat a stock z 99% of the time @ sac

vinnyz

yes alan has a beast of a car and will beat stock z06 and time.. and i have a heavily modded 55 that pulls 521 to the wheel . if i didnt race a stock z06 on road i would have no idea . now a tuned or even slightly modded z06 then different story

vinnyz

u wanna show videos just click on my and see me run 11.2 @ 125

sflgator

One thing I just do get with all of this b.s. between all you guys here (re: Z06 vs. modded C63 and such) is that your highly modded E55 for example runs right on par with a Z06...low-mid 11's @ 125mph. So what's all the "hubub" about?

Brian GT PRO

Only thing I have to say, is that the C6 Z06 has a very broad tq curve, as well as a weight advantage. Trust me, I've dyno'd a LOT of C6 Z06's, and have modded quite a few as well, they are a car to be recon with for sure. I can tell you this..I built a buddies C6 Z06, with LT, intake, cat back, tune, that made 519rwhp, and from a 70 mph roll on the 55fwy vs my heavy modded 360 Modena it was not even close, he killed me..

vinnyz

what the hubub is that dadsc63 raced one and beat .. ppl seem not to believe he did . keith can run with me now . when we race if my iat's r cool i can pull alittle bit on him and if its not he can either hang or even beat me but not by much lol .. but the point is keith has a insane fast car and he would never lie about anything so if he says it its true and thats all

vinnyz

i have no doubt that modded z06 is a beast and would kill me or keith..vette is a great car and i had 04 z06 it was fun and was gonna get new one but the boss aka wife said its to small inside and so that sucks for me . but waiting now for new m5 twin turbo

Brian GT PRO

I hear you on the Vette, it fills a specific need in the market for sure, just like my Modena. The C63 is a much more practical performance sled for sure.

Just plan on that new M5 being next to impossible to mod, with the way BMW is altering the DME's in the FI cars, by the time the new M5 hits, it's going to be really tough. I'm really tired of BMW's persistence of trying to prevent us from modding, hence why I'm shifting back to MBZ (currently on the hunt for C63 R&D car for my shop)

sflgator

I see he has this for his sig...

"2009 C63 - MHP V3 tuning/MKB Headers with M/T Drag Radials - 11.483 @ 121.58mph."

Did he post his timeslip on Dragtimes.com? And, if so and it's legit, then there's no argument if his highly modded C63 AMG is that fast; it too is certainly in the Z06's ballpark then as well. That's also in the Nissan GT-R ballpark as well...actually a slightly faster ET and higher trap than a stock GT-R.

dmyrick

What if you put two really fat (350 lbs each) in the corvette, i bet that would make a difference. lol

hhughes1

That was with the shorty headers. The MHP long tubes pulled 50 more rwhp. Just wait till the climate changes.