Got beaten by a cts-v 2009.
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LOL.. your not getting 550-600rwhp out of the CTSV with 2K. Its already Supercharged so your talking big time engine work to achive those numbers. 
The only thing that will keep it cheaper to mod is GM part. Much cheaper to mod, but still not getting those numbers for 2K.
You must be with the other guy who said a tune and a pulley will give the CTSV 700HP.
Not to hard to get 550-600rwhp out of the C63 either and I have a 6K head start. A tune and a Supercharger on the C63 will probably put it somewhere around 620HP+
Love to see someone do it.
$1500 into the C63 nets 520+ HP and puts it right next to if not ahead of the CTSV. Again... Ill take my 6K in savings. A much better name and quality and put $1500 of it into the C63 and be right next to the CTSV with a better product.
Rice math....
The only thing that will keep it cheaper to mod is GM part. Much cheaper to mod, but still not getting those numbers for 2K.You must be with the other guy who said a tune and a pulley will give the CTSV 700HP.
Not to hard to get 550-600rwhp out of the C63 either and I have a 6K head start. A tune and a Supercharger on the C63 will probably put it somewhere around 620HP+
Love to see someone do it.$1500 into the C63 nets 520+ HP and puts it right next to if not ahead of the CTSV. Again... Ill take my 6K in savings. A much better name and quality and put $1500 of it into the C63 and be right next to the CTSV with a better product.
Rice math....
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...s-cts-v-2.html
The C63 would not be near those numbers with, it's bolt ons.
BIg engine work to get hp due to it being already supercharged? LOL Factory forced inducted cars are easy and cheaper to get more hp out of period. Look at the SRT-4, 03-04 Cobra, GT500, 335i, 911 turbo etc - all much cheaper dollar per hp ratio when it comes to mods, compared to n/a variants.
Well it's good to see MB has some fanbois too.
I would take the C63 over the CTS-V as well. But when it comes to the speed game, the V wins.
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And I gave you the thread...the CTS-V made 615whp. (But I did state it was a while since I read the thread, it also had exhaust and intake, yet only on 11.5psi)
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...s-cts-v-2.html
The C63 would not be near those numbers with, it's bolt ons.
BIg engine work to get hp due to it being already supercharged? LOL Factory forced inducted cars are easy and cheaper to get more hp out of period. Look at the SRT-4, 03-04 Cobra, GT500, 335i, 911 turbo etc - all much cheaper dollar per hp ratio when it comes to mods, compared to n/a variants.
Well it's good to see MB has some fanbois too.
I would take the C63 over the CTS-V as well. But when it comes to the speed game, the V wins.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...s-cts-v-2.html
The C63 would not be near those numbers with, it's bolt ons.
BIg engine work to get hp due to it being already supercharged? LOL Factory forced inducted cars are easy and cheaper to get more hp out of period. Look at the SRT-4, 03-04 Cobra, GT500, 335i, 911 turbo etc - all much cheaper dollar per hp ratio when it comes to mods, compared to n/a variants.
Well it's good to see MB has some fanbois too.
I would take the C63 over the CTS-V as well. But when it comes to the speed game, the V wins.
The V wins, but not by much. So little in fact that a $1500 tune will put the C63 right next to if not ahead of the CTSV. IMO thats a win and thats why I went with the C63.
Of course you can get into the mod wars from that point on and yes, due to the Caddy being supercharged it will most likely come out on top with bolt ons. The thing with the C63 though is that you can run a NOS 200 shot easily. Give me a K2 and a 200 shot of NOS and id love to give that 600WHP Caddy a run for its money and my pocket will have a lot more money in it also.
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Ill probably dump 5K into the C63 and give her a 200 shot of NOS for those special moments when I need it. The K2 and the 200 shot will probably give me at least 550WHP maybe even 600.
I really dont need my street machine to be on demand 600-650WHP. 480-500WHP is fine. Anything more than that and thats why I have my MOPAR and GM track cars.
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I know it was your thread. You were the one who said a pulley and a tune with net 700+ HP on the CTSV. Its all good and the correction has been made.
The V wins, but not by much. So little in fact that a $1500 tune will put the C63 right next to if not ahead of the CTSV. IMO thats a win and thats why I went with the C63.
Of course you can get into the mod wars from that point on and yes, due to the Caddy being supercharged it will most likely come out on top with bolt ons. The thing with the C63 though is that you can run a NOS 200 shot easily. Give me a K2 and a 200 shot of NOS and id love to give that 600WHP Caddy a run for its money and my pocket will have a lot more money in it also.
The V wins, but not by much. So little in fact that a $1500 tune will put the C63 right next to if not ahead of the CTSV. IMO thats a win and thats why I went with the C63.
Of course you can get into the mod wars from that point on and yes, due to the Caddy being supercharged it will most likely come out on top with bolt ons. The thing with the C63 though is that you can run a NOS 200 shot easily. Give me a K2 and a 200 shot of NOS and id love to give that 600WHP Caddy a run for its money and my pocket will have a lot more money in it also.
And you went of as I was preaching 600whp only pulley and tune as if it were scripture.
Now you are bringing in nitrous?
Nitrous is like a hot chick with STD's, you know you want to hit but are afraid of the consequences.
Not most likely, it will. I think the highest C63 bolt on dyno i seen was 470whp. That is what the CTS-V puts down stock. I'm sorry while the C63 is a stout car, it will not win the mod game. I wish the C63 was a C55 instead, only having the blown E55K engine.
However, sorry to say, you are starting to sound like one of 2 things...
1. a fanboi
2. a guy now trying to justify his purchase over the slower car vs the faster one.
No one can argue with you if you say you just prefer the C63. It's your prerogative. That right there is the end of the discussion.
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Not most likely, it will. I think the highest C63 bolt on dyno i seen was 470whp. That is what the CTS-V puts down stock. I'm sorry while the C63 is a stout car, it will not win the mod game. I wish the C63 was a C55 instead, only having the blown E55K engine.
However, sorry to say, you are starting to sound like one of 2 things...
1. a fanboiNo 18 year old
2. a guy now trying to justify his purchase over the slower car vs the faster one.
No one can argue with you if you say you just prefer the C63. It's your prerogative. That right there is the end of the discussion.
Not most likely, it will. I think the highest C63 bolt on dyno i seen was 470whp. That is what the CTS-V puts down stock. I'm sorry while the C63 is a stout car, it will not win the mod game. I wish the C63 was a C55 instead, only having the blown E55K engine.
However, sorry to say, you are starting to sound like one of 2 things...
1. a fanboiNo 18 year old
2. a guy now trying to justify his purchase over the slower car vs the faster one.
No one can argue with you if you say you just prefer the C63. It's your prerogative. That right there is the end of the discussion.
YES the C63 is a GREAT AMG
However it is NOT the definitive beats all race car.
Oh well, this thread is just like jogging or beating your head against the wall, AKA it only feels good when you stop
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That's no lie. My Firebird is a nitrous car...lots of gizmos and parts on it to withstand it. The myth that nitrous is cheap always makes me laugh!!!
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i never said it makes 700+. I said "I think I saw a thread where a CTS-V put down 600whp with a pulley and tune.
And you went of as I was preaching 600whp only pulley and tune as if it were scripture.
Now you are bringing in nitrous?
Nitrous is like a hot chick with STD's, you know you want to hit but are afraid of the consequences.
Not most likely, it will. I think the highest C63 bolt on dyno i seen was 470whp. That is what the CTS-V puts down stock. I'm sorry while the C63 is a stout car, it will not win the mod game. I wish the C63 was a C55 instead, only having the blown E55K engine.
However, sorry to say, you are starting to sound like one of 2 things...
1. a fanboi
2. a guy now trying to justify his purchase over the slower car vs the faster one.
No one can argue with you if you say you just prefer the C63. It's your prerogative. That right there is the end of the discussion.
And you went of as I was preaching 600whp only pulley and tune as if it were scripture.
Now you are bringing in nitrous?
Nitrous is like a hot chick with STD's, you know you want to hit but are afraid of the consequences.
Not most likely, it will. I think the highest C63 bolt on dyno i seen was 470whp. That is what the CTS-V puts down stock. I'm sorry while the C63 is a stout car, it will not win the mod game. I wish the C63 was a C55 instead, only having the blown E55K engine.
However, sorry to say, you are starting to sound like one of 2 things...
1. a fanboi
2. a guy now trying to justify his purchase over the slower car vs the faster one.
No one can argue with you if you say you just prefer the C63. It's your prerogative. That right there is the end of the discussion.
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Make no mistake about it, while I do respect the C63 for what it is...I have NO desire to own one. I really don't see how you could gather that I envy you from the cars I own?
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Edit: Should I be impressed by the cars that you own?
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I am in here to provide a little more information on the CTS-V that you are so ignorantly suppling information for.
You can feel however you like about my cars...you missed the point; which seems to be common with you.
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Strange how every thread that makes reference to the CTS-V quickly degenerates into a flamewar.
It's just another car, and not even a direct competitor to the C63. Just relax, folks.
It's just another car, and not even a direct competitor to the C63. Just relax, folks.
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The point you seem to be missing over and over again is this is a MB C63 forum. Its been said numerous time I and others have respect for the CTSV. Unfortunately in your case you need full submission on how the GM and CTSV is a superior product in every way and how the C63 could never touch it. Sadly troll, your not going to get that here. Time to move on.
I see you have a new friend. That dummy the other day tried to tell me that they didn’t add gas to ethanol so it wouldn’t be drinkable. He then scurried away and never discussed it again rather than admitting he was wrong in pretty much the entire thread. Have fun with him! I have no use for him.
Have fun with your jet boat and all your other vehicles. You sure you don’t want to add your BMX bike to that and your skate board?
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Is the CTSV superior in performance to the 1st Gen? Absolutely. You really cant comment yet on quality or service record yet. It does seem to be much better than the 1st Gen I admit.
My points on the 1st Gen CTSV were more so about GM and its crap quality cars. If you feel that is ignorance than I suggest you lookup the definition.
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Hmm...this is interesting. Cadillac dealerships up here in Greater Vancouver (possibly all of Canada?) are offering a 60-day satisfaction guarantee on the CTS-V. Apparently, if you don't feel 100% satisfied with the car, you can return it between 30 to 60 days after purchase (provided you keep the odometer below 4,000 km) and just pay for "vehicle usage fees".
The interesting part is this offer only applies to the manual gearbox-equipped cars.
The interesting part is this offer only applies to the manual gearbox-equipped cars.
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Hmm...this is interesting. Cadillac dealerships up here in Greater Vancouver (possibly all of Canada?) are offering a 60-day satisfaction guarantee on the CTS-V. Apparently, if you don't feel 100% satisfied with the car, you can return it between 30 to 60 days after purchase (provided you keep the odometer below 4,000 km) and just pay for "vehicle usage fees".
The interesting part is this offer only applies to the manual gearbox-equipped cars.
The interesting part is this offer only applies to the manual gearbox-equipped cars.
This is for the 09's? Good luck finding one.
No one in their right mind would ever return this car!
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Edit: And as for my earlier reference to this offer only being applicable to the manual cars, that was actually an error on my part. The fine print in the ad was actually pointing out that the claim that this car is "the fastest V8 production sedan in the world" was made with a manual transmission CTS-V, not an automatic one. Sorry for the mistake.
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