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Old 10-25-2009, 04:45 PM
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Question Why did AMG...

...improve C63 PPP engiene power with SLS stuff instead of just ECU reprogramming?
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Originally Posted by cyberorth
...improve C63 PPP engiene power with SLS stuff instead of just ECU reprogramming?
Real power comes from within...

The true potential is in the iron, not the software. Hardware limitations can never be solved by software.

Software is just a means to get the hardware going.

Hardware comes 1st
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Originally Posted by cyberorth
...improve C63 PPP engiene power with SLS stuff instead of just ECU reprogramming?
Not only that...you can drop the tune on top of the mechanical performance upgrades and make some serious HP

I'm dying to put on 125 HP NOS shot on my car but cant find any shop that's doin' in?????
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maybe with the SLS parts installed aftermarket tuners can run more aggressive tunes on the PPP equiped C63 putting out even more horsepower.
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I still haven't heard anything about this around the dealerships (have to admit though, I have yet to ask). Does anyone even have an approximate date when this package will become available?
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maybe with the SLS parts installed aftermarket tuners can run more aggressive tunes on the PPP equiped C63 putting out even more horsepower.
I'd much rather have them change the internals and leave the software potential than the other way around
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I'd much rather have them change the internals and leave the software potential than the other way around
I agree with this.

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Originally Posted by sprins
Real power comes from within...

The true potential is in the iron, not the software. Hardware limitations can never be solved by software.

Software is just a means to get the hardware going.

Hardware comes 1st
Actually this is not true. Mercedes' factory programed the C63's throttle plates to not open up all the way. No amount of hardware will fix that.

Hardware is just a means to get the software going.
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Originally Posted by callmiro
Not only that...you can drop the tune on top of the mechanical performance upgrades and make some serious HP

I'm dying to put on 125 HP NOS shot on my car but cant find any shop that's doin' in?????
PM jrcart or rarfinancial.
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I still haven't heard anything about this around the dealerships (have to admit though, I have yet to ask). Does anyone even have an approximate date when this package will become available?
They have been delivering P31 cars since middle of January. Package became available with December '09 build dates.
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Not that I'm complaining, but I'm sure "justification of cost" had something to do with it.... Charging $6,000 for a +30 hp ECU tune would drive customers away, but changing some hardware with it, makes it more attractive
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
Not that I'm complaining, but I'm sure "justification of cost" had something to do with it.... Charging $6,000 for a +30 hp ECU tune would drive customers away, but changing some hardware with it, makes it more attractive
In 2006 Porsche hit me for $17,200 for the X51 perf package to the Carerra S that added 16 HP and some hardware and software changes plus a CF airbox.

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