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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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C63 Ride / Manual

Don't know if this has talked about, but the ride on my 2010 C63 is pretty bad on rough pavement. I recently though took it on a 300 mile trip and found that the ride is much better in the Manual position than in Comfort.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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I dont think you have adjustable suspension, it makes no differnce in manual or comfort mode, that is strictly for transmission setup. Does your car have the PP package?
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 06:57 PM
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I have a 2010 too, and with the P30 it's freaking bone-jarring over potholes of almost any size at speed. But hey - when you find smooth highway, get ready to take off & stick to the road. Trade offs.

EDIT: The modes C/S/M (unlike many other MBs) do not have any control over the suspension (as everybody else is saying).

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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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The C63 doesn't have adjustable suspension, all that adjusts is the transmission modes.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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My car does have the PP package and is much stiffer in Sport mode...
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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As stated the C63 does not come with adjustable suspension. Therefore changing modes can’t possibly change suspension settings.

What is unique about yours that makes it different to those owned by other forum members?

Check with your dealer and report back to us, we’d all be very interested in the details.

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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:37 AM
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What is unique about yours that makes it different to those owned by other forum members?
Must be the placebo mod, costs a little extra at the dealership!
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:49 AM
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I always laugh when C63 owners ***** about a rough ride... really...

If you want a soft ride, go buy the 350... or understand a 450+ hp performance car should have a stiffer suspension
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 01:15 AM
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Just so we're clear, P30/P31 or stock?
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 03:53 AM
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I always laugh when C63 owners ***** about a rough ride... really...

If you want a soft ride, go buy the 350... or understand a 450+ hp performance car should have a stiffer suspension

I totally agree. It’s marketed as a performance car, and as such you can’t have handling properties working at the same time as comfort. Don’t like it, don’t buy it.

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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCalC55
I always laugh when C63 owners ***** about a rough ride... really...

If you want a soft ride, go buy the 350... or understand a 450+ hp performance car should have a stiffer suspension
+1

I never felt that C63 is stiff. Its fine with me. Love the feeling. Since I like stiff suspension that is why I bought PP.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by HIRO63
I never felt that C63 is stiff. Its fine with me. Love the feeling. Since I like stiff suspension that is why I bought PP.

Same here, I don’t get this feeling of a hard ride and I’m on 20’s.

There are a lot worst on the market, some real kidney crunchers.

Then there are the owners who go for suspension mods to lower and stiffen things up, they know the value of the car as a performance machine.

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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by sjhugh
Same here, I don’t get this feeling of a hard ride and I’m on 20’s.

There are a lot worst on the market, some real kidney crunchers.

Then there are the owners who go for suspension mods to lower and stiffen things up, they know the value of the car as a performance machine.

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Hey sjhugh, how do you compare your C63 to your HSV? I am almost thinkin f buying the new E2, they are really growing on me !
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCalC55
I always laugh when C63 owners ***** about a rough ride... really...

If you want a soft ride, go buy the 350... or understand a 450+ hp performance car should have a stiffer suspension
A big giant plus 1..
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sjhugh
I totally agree. It’s marketed as a performance car, and as such you can’t have handling properties working at the same time as comfort. Don’t like it, don’t buy it.

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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 07:26 AM
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I dont see why its so surprising that C63 owners are complaining....and I also dont see why they get ridiculed for it on here. I mean after all, didnt Mercedes themselves realize it and end up changing the PP suspension on the 2010's? Riiiiiiight. Stiff does not always equal performance.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCalC55
I always laugh when C63 owners ***** about a rough ride... really...

If you want a soft ride, go buy the 350... or understand a 450+ hp performance car should have a stiffer suspension
Originally Posted by sjhugh
I totally agree. It’s marketed as a performance car, and as such you can’t have handling properties working at the same time as comfort. Don’t like it, don’t buy it.

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Originally Posted by HIRO63
+1

I never felt that C63 is stiff. Its fine with me. Love the feeling. Since I like stiff suspension that is why I bought PP.
Originally Posted by AMGC60-3
A big giant plus 1..
Originally Posted by NS_C63
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Totally agree with all of you!!
Edit: Specially I like the "If you want a soft ride, go buy the 350... or understand a 450+ hp performance car should have a stiffer suspension"
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rory breaker
I dont see why its so surprising that C63 owners are complaining....and I also dont see why they get ridiculed for it on here. I mean after all, didnt Mercedes themselves realize it and end up changing the PP suspension on the 2010's? Riiiiiiight. Stiff does not always equal performance.
Wow, I did'nt think I'd open up a pissing match about who's *** can take a beating more! I've owned 10 Lamborghini's, several Ferraris, dozens of BMW's including M's and many Merc's...I've never complained about the ride of any preformance car and actually lean toward a stiffer feel in the supension...As far as this C63...maybe most of you have some fairly good roads, but here in northern Wisconsin they are some of the worst in the country and I'm telling you that in S mode the car gets considerably stiffer and jarring than in C or M.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 09:19 AM
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Again, you do NOT have adjustable suspension, there is no option for this on the W204 C63, it is in your head. But if you insist on this, let yourself beleive you have the only W204 C63 with adjustable suspension on the planet, I am sure you will fell good.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 09:22 AM
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This is really crazy, I mean WTF!!!!!!!!
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Maverick1975
Hey sjhugh, how do you compare your C63 to your HSV? I am almost thinkin f buying the new E2, they are really growing on me !


Sorry to highjack the thread, so I’ll make it one post.

Really the C63 and HSV are chalk and cheese.

The HSV is bigger therefore it has a lot more room in the back but it’s falls far short on luxury and technology compared to the C63.

The HSV is much heavier and with both in stock form, the C63 will easily get the jump on it and the HSV won’t be able to pick it up. The HSV also had in my opinion a weak clutch if going for the manual as I have, it’s easy to cook it off the line. I don’t know if this problem has been rectified now with the introduction of launch control. I’ve owned a few V8 VE Commodores and the Calais V I had, had one of the worst auto transmissions I’ve ever driven. It constantly searched for a gear and make sure you bring a ‘cut lunch’ while waiting for it to shift, though a tune will easily fix this problem. The HSV auto tune is already an improvement on the stock Commodore V8’s.

All that said, the HSV has good brakes and the 6.2 litre LS3 is cheap to mod with a huge amount of aftermarket gear available and then it becomes a weapon. They’re fast and tough for half the price of a C63.

I have a 230/230 cam with ported heads, valves, valve springs, lifters, stud kit and so on plus an over the radiator cold air intake with a full exhaust and cats, pulling around 320rwkw (430rwhp) on a soft tune. Why a soft tune? It was an agreement I had with my HSV dealer to retain my driveline warranty. Realistically this setup would bring in around 350rwkw (470rwhp).

If you want to get serious, there are plenty of forced induction options available (single or twin turbos and superchargers) plus stroker kits. There are clutch upgrades, diff ratios for the autos and they also respond fantastically well to just a tune and of course a mandatory suspension drop. Coilovers, springs whatever takes your fancy.

The added bonus is that there are many good performance shops in Sydney and around the country.

Here’s some links of what you’d be looking to get for your mods:

Cam and exhaust – (350rwkw/470rwhp):

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=131838

Forced induction – Cam & Supercharger – (440rwkw/590rwhp):

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=127041

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=131913

Forced induction stock LS3 – Twin Turbo – (460rwkw/616rwhp):

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=125864

And of course where most Aussies into Holden/HSV’s live:

http://www.ls1.com.au/?

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My car has the P 31 Performance Package, which states "AMG Track Calibrated Suspension"...On the CLS 63 AMG, the "AMG Track Calibrated System" is "Airmatic" and adjustable...I'm assuming the same on the 2010 C63 AMG.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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Stick your head underneath and you’ll see exactly what you’ve got, nothing special.

If for some reason there is airmatic, take a pic. I’m sure a few of us will be off to the dealers to see if it’s available as a retrofit.

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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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My car has the P 31 Performance Package, which states "AMG Track Calibrated Suspension"...On the CLS 63 AMG, the "AMG Track Calibrated System" is "Airmatic" and adjustable...I'm assuming the same on the 2010 C63 AMG.
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I researched the suspension on the C63 and CLS63 before buying. There is a button on the CLS63 that adjusts the suspension indepently of transmission mode. This is not on available on the C63.....but would be nice. FWIW, I love the stock C63 suspension. I find it a nice blend of daily driving combined with sport.....not to soft, not to firm.
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