sflgator

Looking at either the Escort Laser Shifter ZR4 or the Blinder M27 X-Treme Laser Jammer. Any thoughts to which one may be the better choice or are they about the same? Thank you.

Kaiba

Go Blinder.
They are the way to go at the moment.
Ultra performance , easy install , firmware upgrade possible.
And the best customer service availlable.

Got M27 and have never been defeated from any distance. 100% JTG on multiple guns.

Plus , the C63 is a pretty easy car to protect with not too much chrome. If you have black grill , even better perf.

The only - is the sun sensibility , which I heard is about to be solved by Blinder.

sflgator

Thank you!

alqamzi

Is it legal??

sflgator

Yes, in most or all of the US states where radar detectors are legal. There are a few states where radar detectors and laser jammers are illegal, but fortunately for me, I do not live in one of them.

EDIT -- correction; found this...

http://www.007radardetectors.com/legal.htm
"Laser jammers - There are no Federal laws against the transmission of infrared light. Therefore, laser jammers are legal in every state except while on a military base, in a commercial vehicle weighing over 10,000 pounds or where they have specifically been banned. Please see the list below for states that have banned the use of jammers.
States that have Banned the use of all jammers
California, Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Utah, Virginia and Washington DC"

alqamzi

Thats cool i hope colorado one of the legal.Am asking because am a student here in the states so i don't know theses staff.I got my license suspended the first year am here LoL i just got it back 3months ago.

sflgator

Sorry, laser jammers have been banned by the state of CO.

alqamzi

Ohh no, I was going to buy one.

RW C55

Just for your reference speeding is also against the law.. did it stop you from doing so?

to OP-
I had a blinder M25 on the C55, it was ok as far as the testing goes.. never had a chance to try it in real world since I rarely gets hit by a laser after the installation. The only time I was aimed by a laser, I had the jammer turned off

With that said, the M27 is WAYYY better than the M25 in terms of the performance/price and the upgradeable capability is another plus.

sflgator

Cool. Well, around here, it's ~ 80% Ka band radar, especially on the hwy, but occasionally, they stop and set up with the laser gun. Around town, there can be quite a few laser gun traps, especially with the motorcycle police hiding near trees, bushes, and large street signs, etc.

alumar

Don't use in illinois ... i was arrested on the spot and had to spend 400 bucks to get out of a ticket. Luckly i had a passenger with me that could drive the car to the station to pick me up.

I had a prior warning and never removed the jammer I had. I had a court order to remove it and had to show proof of its removal from a business (invoice/recipt).

RW C55

Another thing is while laser jammers are legal in most states, the radar jammers are illegal, and most cops don't know the differences between the two.

alumar

In my instance ... i was going through a trap, got pegged, Escort lit up saying i was getting tagged, i slowed down ...had a cruiser come flying up ...cop got out and asked me to step out of the car ...then preceeded to yell at me on how i was obstructing justice and 'ghosting' their lasergun is illegal in the state of illionis..., then he runs my plate and seen i was previously pulled over for this... and given a warning... set him off even more.

I told him i havent had time to remove it, so he arrested me for obstructing or preventing a policeman's job or some bull****...

needless to say, i was pissed, called a lawyer, and it got thrown up upon my removal of the device.

The reason a 'radar jammer' is illegal is obvious, but a infrared light jammer is retarded. But whatever, was fun while it lasted

Kaiba

I should add that the M27 has another interesting plus :

It has a switch allowing to use it either as a laser jammer or as .................................................. ....... a parking assistant !!!

And here comes my recent story :

Was on a national road , driving easy.
Got pulled by a local police car.
Men is asking me the papers , asking if I know the reason why he's pulling me.

Me : "No.... To be honest I was 95km/h instead of 90 but I don't think thats the main reason (laugh)".
Him : "Obsiously not (ultra serious)."
He's turning around the car looking for a reason.
Him : "You have some dirt on your plate. You should wipe it ou or you could get a ticket from another collegue."
Obsiously he was just looking the car. Just found someting to have a closer look.
Him : "Whats that in your front grille ?"
Me : "What , sir ?"
Him : "These two little lens coming out".
Me : "Oh these ?! They are my parking assistants."
Him : "You'r sure ?"
Me : "Lets give it a try !"
Switch my M27 on parking mode.
Biiiiiiippp , biiiiiippppp.
Him : "OK OK , got the sound here. Here's your license , drive safely".
Me : "Thanks sir. Have a good day".

Gave him some 63 love before leaving

Radar detectors and laser jammers are ultra illegal in France. They found it , you are in jail same day and your car is not yours anymore.

Better be as stealth as possible and that option helps.

sflgator

For those that have a laser jammer in the US...

How much did the installation cost and where did you have it installed? I'm thinking that a decent car stereo/specialty electronics shop do these installs, right?

I got a ~ $500 "custom" installation quote (more than the cost of the unit itself ) and thought that was quite steep...any thoughts?

AMGSpartan

Hello Kaiba,

Are you saying the Blinder is an "easy install" as in a DIY install? As in...I could install it myself? That would be great. Most places see the MB and suddenly the 'install' price goes up to approximate the cost of the Blinder unit itself! Yikes!! I'd like to try the install myself.

Has anyone done the install DIY?

Thanks

RW C55

Its very easy (and cheap) to install an jammer by urself, I installed mine in about an hour. Power source works exactly the same as the ones on radar detectors (12v switched), and the hardest part is getting the wires through the firewall for the heads(at least for me).

Merc63

I have the LR3 shifter combined with a escort 9500. Works like a dream.

BUT

HAVE IT INSTALLED CORRECTLY!!

The diodes have to completely level and have a clear vision of the road ahead or behind. They cant be placed behind glass, grills, etc. The best spot is in front of the honey comb grill on the front so they have a perfectly clear view up and ahead. In the rear on the license plate.

RW C55

^^^ +1
The kit will include a leveler though.

Here's a picture of my install, not the best place (some pros said the heads won't cover the upper area of the headlight) but it's the cleanest position I could think of.

sflgator

Thanks!

bluejae

yep, can't stop them instant on k/ka bands

GibbieGibbs

Has anyone installed the transponders in the main grill as opposed to the honey comb grill? Since most cops target the headlights, it would seem to make sense to mount them more in line to the headlights. However, I'm not an expert.

Per the blinder specs, each transponder is 4" wide. The width between the spaces in the main grill is just at 4", so maybe they will not fit. I have an E class and not a C. I'm considering getting the M27, and am trying to figure out where I would mount the transponders.

mrwolf

Has anyone installed something like this in the UK? I'd love to install one of these systems

KEMA

I'm a complete noob when it comes to radar/lasar detectors and jammers. I'm in Europe and the times I've been pulled over is 9 out of 10 due to me being 'shot' by a police officer holding a 'gun type device' and hiding behind a tree/sign. This would be laser correct? Or can they shoot me with a radar device?

Second question. The laser jammer will actually jam the signal? Or rather give me a warning?

Educate me please.

Ken

ATL_MB

Gibbs - I have a 9500ci, installed by the local MB dealer, with two transponders mounted in the main grill. The main unit/ radar detector is located lower down, behind the plastic bumper cover. The transponders are very hard to see in the grill. They are bolted in to the back of the grill, through the mesh. Don't use tape or adhesives.

Ken - Both laser and radar systems use "gun type devices" -- so who knows what they were using. Where I live, most police are fat and lazy (ever seen a 300 lb. cop on a Harley police bike?) and just sit in their cars and shoot radar at everything going by, giving you time to slow down if you paying attention -- laser requires them to get out of the car and aim carefully. Different municipalities tend to use predominately one or the other, so the threat can change based on where you are. The laser jammer can be set to either just warn you or to warn and jam. Unlike radar, there is no point in just being warned of a laser threat - 99% of the time, if you receive a laser warning without jamming it, you are already done.

One other thing, my 9500 HATES Infiniti's, esp. the big-*** Suburban knock-offs. I think it is their adaptive cruise control or something, but every once in a while my 9500 goes apes**t when they get behind me.