TTM is now the ONLY AUTHORIZED Flashloader/Programmer/Data Logger dealer in the Mercedes market in the USA!!!

Please PM me for introductory pricing on the most revolutionary tool to hit the tuning market!

Now have the capability of storing multiple files and data logging up to 6 hours of data on a hand held device so now YOU can do your own comparisons and get REAL WORLD numbers, not INFLATED TUNER QUOTED numbers.


Isn't this what you've all been waiting for?

You also have the capability to flash a valet mode that will limit your Mercedes to a predetermined speed or rpm limit!

What does this mean for those that already have tunes from X? Does Tuner X need to load the file into the device or can be pull it out and store it in the device? Cost?

holy! my first thought was that Dan Gilbert hacked your guys' account

i had a similar question in mind. but wouldn't that make it possible to just pass tunes around? or is that not possible because each ecu will be unique?

so i can have a stock tune, and then a tune purchased from kleeman, and then one purchased from mhp, and i can switch between them fairly easily?

if the dealer reflashes the ecu with some sort of update, then i can just choose any of the tunes i have again and it will go back to it?

and if purchased, will tuning companies not have a problem working with this device and providing the necessary information needed?

can anyone comment on the diagnostic invisibility of swapping tunes?

Lola said the tuned flash is married to the firmware, meaning with each reflash from the dealer, you need to send it back to the tuner to "remarry" the tuned flash with the new firmware update. I was hoping this was not the case.

would flashing the stock tune that you have saved not revert it back to the stock firmware?

It didn't sound that way. Engine management could just be a component. Perhaps someone else could let us know?

Just for clarification-
TTM is the only MBWorld.ORG registered vendor selling the programmer/logger. There are other tuners providing this tool but they are not registered vendors on this forum (and thus I will not list them).

So is this like napster? Once someone gets the file, then can send it to someone else and they can load? Other than the data logging, not sure why you would want to be swapping tunes that often...at least for 90% or more of folks. I could understand more if you had a boosted car, with race gas maps, etc..

Files (either stock or tuned) are encrypted to the programmer's serial number and the ViN. It is not possible to take a .enc file that was built for one car/programmer and use it on another. The other programmer will simply not recognize the file as valid.


Yes, and this is the true value of the device as it replaces the need for multiple ECUs married to the same ViN and the need to ship ECUs every time you want a change. Combining this with the data logging allows the end customer to log data stock, install a tune then log data after the tune to evaluate the changes. Increased Load, MAF and Torque values are a sure indication of increased performance. These baseline logs can then be used to compare subsequent changes like long tube headers and such. There is also no reason why you can not capture log data during dyno pulls or 1/4 mile runs.

The answer to this is no. The tuned file is a modification of the calibration tables for the firmware installed in the car. If the dealer updates the firmware, the old tuned files (based on the older firmware) will not match up and would not be installed. Furthermore, the ME97 ECU in the AMG 63s must be enabled for the programmer to work (unlike the ME2.7.1 and ME2.8.1) so a dealer firmware update means the ECU must be enabled for the programmer to work again (at which time you would likely get replacement tuned files). Sorry about this. I wish I could do better on this point but MB's security is impressive.

The programmer will be purchased through a tuner so that tuner obviously has no problem working with the device. If you already have a tune on the ECU, it can be moved to an encrypted file to work with the programmer. I suggest that this is done by me to limit the blowback from any one tuner as I do not tune and I do not distribute one tuner's work to another. If I did, no tuner would work with me. All that being said, the only reason tuner X would not throw a fit is if you the customer said "I want this. Make it happen." Otherwise, there is no incentive for them to do anything but try to quash the process.

Once you have your stock, Tune 1, Tune 2, etc. files, you can switch between any two in under a minute. It does not matter if Tune 1-x are from the same tuner or not.

No on napster (see above).

Yes on the rest as this is not for everyone as the ECU must still visit the tuner to be enabled.

This reminds me of the VAG tuning for VW/Audi that I loved so much with my previous A3. Thank you lolachampcar for coming up with this. It's an absolutely must for me to be able to switch back to a stock tune and this will help convince me to finally get a tune.

What would it take for the customer/end-user to be able to enable the ECU for the programmer himself/herself directly without sending the ECU to the tuner after, for example, a dealer updates the firmware? Is it just a matter of purchasing another flashing device to enable the ECU or is it a more involving process?

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...oing-i-do.html

I just got one... Check it out above..!!!!

Tuners use a Background Debugging Mode or BDM tool to read and write the ME97. The BDM tool is a generic microcontroller development tool which tuners use in combination with tuning specific software. So, to answer your question, you would need a BDM tool, one of the tuning packages to run it and a willingness to open your ECU, place the BDM probe on the printed circuit board and reflash the ECU. This is normally too much of a PIA for the average guy to bother and thus my comment about sending it to a tuner (or me) to re-enable the ECU for programming.

If I were smarter, I would have figured out the MB signature stuff

Is their a general unwillingness on the tuner part to load the tune we purchased and the stock tune onto this device? Let's say Kleemann for example.

TTMotrsports,

Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong but you are saying that you are offering a flash loader? kind of like what Cobb Tunning has or what GIAC has? or like RAT from Renntech?

I do have a flash loader on my VW and I can change maps but it looks like this:

http://www.giacusa.com/flashloader_handheld.php

http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=5027

Please confirm if this is similar to what you are selling. Is it like HP tuners or Diablo loaders or Hypertech?

so mb tuners lock the ecu? is there software/tatix cable available to self tune?

so this is very similar to ecu flash for evo's...minus the tuning aspect. with ecu flash not only can you log, but you can self tune also

I was hoping it was just another "re-flash" tool, in which case, it might've been worth it to just buy both devices and eliminate having to send the ECU anywhere.... but things are usually never this easy