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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by propain
A modified E63 beyond a tune (500+ whp) will start walking the C63 up top. From about 125+ on.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K-xs_KOODU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB0lPxaGyeY


But even a 500+ whp E63 wont beat a tuned C63 in the 1/4 mile or its gonna be damn close.
Gotta be the best videos I've ever seen!! Are you the videographer propain?
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 10:45 AM
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Gotta be the best videos I've ever seen!! Are you the videographer propain?

Douche

I forgot my flip that day.. What do you want im driving at 120+ Not the time to 1 hand the wheel....

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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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Douche

I forgot my flip that day.. What do you want im driving at 120+ Not the time to 1 hand the wheel....
My favorite word! Was that at obi
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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My favorite word! Was that at obi

Yeah.

My Fav word too.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 11:28 AM
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What about C63 ECU tuned whit secondery cats removed VS stock Corvette Z06?
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 11:40 AM
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What about C63 ECU tuned whit secondery cats removed VS stock Corvette Z06?
Nah, I would think that a C63 running with or possibly beating a 'Vette Z06 would require a good tune + headers. I don't think a tuned-only (with or without secondary cats) would be close to a Z06 which typically runs the 1/4mi. in ~ mid-upper 11's @ 124mph.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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What about C63 ECU tuned whit secondery cats removed VS stock Corvette Z06?
Notr a chance. It has been covered here a few times before. I personally can also confirm it since I had a C6 Z06. Like I said, not a chance.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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Hi Guys,

these are the official weights of both cars, according to AMG-Homepage:

2010 C63 1730 kilograms (3814 lbs)

2010 E63 1840 kilograms (4057 lbs)

So the E-Class is over 100kg heavier than the C. So it´s no surprice, that
a ecu tuned "C" is faster than a stock "E". But i think you couldn´t call it a
"walk"...

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Unfortunately the C63 is heavier that what you claim. I personally already weighted the car twice at the local dragstrip scales at South West International raceway(Tucson SIR) and my C63 was 3940lbs with some weight reduction an low gas. Easily well over 4000lbs with some gas.

I removed the spare tire and floor mats.

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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 12:21 PM
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I thought the C63 weighs about 400lb's less than the E63?
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by propain
A modified E63 beyond a tune (500+ whp) will start walking the C63 up top. From about 125+ on.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K-xs_KOODU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB0lPxaGyeY


But even a 500+ whp E63 wont beat a tuned C63 in the 1/4 mile or its gonna be damn close.
Baby seat power! I also have one, it adds about 10 WHP
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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Baby seat power! I also have one, it adds about 10 WHP
Its where I hide my NOS tanks.


There is one on the other side as well!! lol. Adds about 50lb's to my car. Always forget to take them out before I go have some fun. I like the laughs and smiles it gets though.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 06:17 PM
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Its where I hide my NOS tanks.


There is one on the other side as well!! lol. Adds about 50lb's to my car. Always forget to take them out before I go have some fun. I like the laughs and smiles it gets though.
What are you going to do? Thow them out the window? That would be an universal sign that says "Im ready to race, bring it on" lol
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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What are you going to do? Thow them out the window? That would be an universal sign that says "Im ready to race, bring it on" lol
The kids or the seats?
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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I didn't want to post a different thread, what's the result of a rolling between tuned C63 and a stock M5 or M6. Also between a tuned + headers C63 and stock M5 or M6. I'm curious.

Any experience?
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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No chance unless they have the stroker motor in them. Full bolt on m6 Barely crack into the 11s a tuned headered c63 is fast. Go to dragtimes and do research.. It easy google the car and ad dragtimes (m6 dragtimes) or any car you want to no about and it'll tell you!!! A properly tuned c63 should easily break into 11s ad headers 11.5 or so..
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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I don't know what the actual weight diff between a C and E is, but on a road course (Road Atlanta) it seems closer to a 400 lb diff than a 200 lb difference. The E63 is not a nimble car. (Neither is the C). Around a road course, a stock C would kill an E.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dodger63
No chance unless they have the stroker motor in them. Full bolt on m6 Barely crack into the 11s a tuned headered c63 is fast. Go to dragtimes and do research.. It easy google the car and ad dragtimes (m6 dragtimes) or any car you want to no about and it'll tell you!!! A properly tuned c63 should easily break into 11s ad headers 11.5 or so..
Thanks for the reply, quarter mile numbers are don't mean anything to me, I'm curious about highway pulls where it's more about the car rather than the driving and launching skills.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 11:49 PM
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Alright well in that case idk look at trapspeeds that might help a bit
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 11:54 PM
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O yea drag times post 60-130 allot?? That could be useful but highway runs most everyyone who knows something will say there not that fair! Someone always will get that quicker reaction on the gas!! Most of these cars you talk about will win one lose one in almost every story or video you watch?

Or even look up results from the Texas mile or Miami mile that should prove power?

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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 12:26 AM
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Hi Guys,

these are the official weights of both cars, according to AMG-Homepage:

2010 C63 1730 kilograms (3814 lbs)

2010 E63 1840 kilograms (4057 lbs)

So the E-Class is over 100kg heavier than the C. So it´s no surprice, that
a ecu tuned "C" is faster than a stock "E". But i think you couldn´t call it a
"walk"...

Best regards,
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The weights listed by Mercedes are a little tricky because they are supposed to be the weights of the car with standard featues ONLY (meaning without one single option) + half tank of gas. I can't speak for the 2010 E63, but for the 2007 to 2009 E63s, almost every single one came with the Premium 1 or Premium 2 packages, which seems to add about 120 lbs. And if the car happened to have pano roof, then add yet another 120 lbs.

I weighted my car and throughout the past couple of years, I weighted a few W211 E63s and to date I have not found a single E63 that weights less than 4140 lbs. The average weight seemed to be around 4200 to 4250 lbs.

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Originally Posted by propain
A modified E63 beyond a tune (500+ whp) will start walking the C63 up top. From about 125+ on.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K-xs_KOODU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB0lPxaGyeY


But even a 500+ whp E63 wont beat a tuned C63 in the 1/4 mile or its gonna be damn close.
Please remember.... not every E63 out there is running healthy and with the right setup

By the way, which E63 has 500 whp?
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 12:34 AM
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The weights listed by Mercedes are a little tricky because they are supposed to be the weights of the car with standard featues ONLY (meaning without one single option) + half tank of gas. I can't speak for the 2010 E63, but for the 2007 to 2009 E63s, almost every single one came with the Premium 1 or Premium 2 packages, which adds about 120 lbs. If the car happened to have pano roof, then add another 120 lbs.

I weighted my car and throughout the past couple of years, I weighted a few W211 E63s and to date I have not found a single E63 that weights less than 4140 lbs. The average weight seemed to be around 4200 to 4250 lbs.
Thats not bad mine weighed 3925
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Mo seems to be forgetting the fact his car and my car both when lined up heads up with tuned C63's had quicker and faster times. I believe the C63's in question were equipped with HEADERS and Exhaust.

The C63 was not "walking" the E63 or the CLS 63, nope.

We have another chance to run the cars coming soon. We will post up a vid of the STOCK E63 vs a C63 tune. I think you guys certainly have the advantage , but I dont call it "walking" its not enough to feel unchallenged, this is a driver determined race .
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
Mo seems to be forgetting the fact his car and my car both when lined up heads up with tuned C63's had quicker and faster times. I believe the C63's in question were equipped with HEADERS and Exhaust.

The C63 was not "walking" the E63 or the CLS 63, nope.

We have another chance to run the cars coming soon. We will post up a vid of the STOCK E63 vs a C63 tune. I think you guys certainly have the advantage , but I dont call it "walking" its not enough to feel unchallenged, this is a driver determined race .
It's definitely not walking as in C63 vs G37 or something like that. However, even stock vs stock the E is not able to go in front. I had this experience in a race in Mexico and even though the E63 got the jump I was able to reel him in and pull about a car on him. I had absolutely no tune back then, the guy was also alone!
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
Mo seems to be forgetting the fact his car and my car both when lined up heads up with tuned C63's had quicker and faster times. I believe the C63's in question were equipped with HEADERS and Exhaust.

The C63 was not "walking" the E63 or the CLS 63, nope.

We have another chance to run the cars coming soon. We will post up a vid of the STOCK E63 vs a C63 tune. I think you guys certainly have the advantage , but I dont call it "walking" its not enough to feel unchallenged, this is a driver determined race .
So there are 2 examples that run12.00 1/4 I walked Walked on more then a few e,s tuned and stock now when I say walked that's means to me slowly pulling awaynot getting bus lengths?? From all speeds.. I've faced a few like?? 4-5 at the track multiple runs. And they are not as fast stock or tuned?? Now u say header and exhaust.. I can only speak for my self which is header/tune I run away on e63's.. (disclaimer). This is my experience and opinion only I am not saying I don't like or think it's slow by any means. I'm not a hater I love all cars.. As for people I dislike most..
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