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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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Well I did prove a point bro. When comparing my #s to my friends E63 with same tune,same shop,same temps=similar #s. BUT his E63 has airbox mod,K&N,charcoal delete! BTW Atco is this month on the 22nd.

Are you talking about Albert?


For the 10000 times. What correction?
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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What a dumb statement.


Very common at the track to use ice between runs to cool down a car doing runs in quick succession..
+1 yeah nitrous a 15 shot
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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+1 yeah nitrous a 15 shot


Say again....
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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Are you talking about Albert?


For the 10000 times. What correction?
Yes. Not sure on correction. Will have to call.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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Say again....
I was being sarcastic.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:32 PM
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Yes. Not sure on correction. Will have to call.
Dynojet should give you the run files. You can download the software from their site and play with the data all you like. (Create your own charts ect)

Correction means everything though. At STD correction my 5th run was 459whp 419 tq. At SAE 447whp 408 tq. SAE is the most common.


I hope I can make it to the track. If I cant get DR's by that time hopefully dodger will give us his so we can chase that 11.6!
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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I was being sarcastic.
Didnt know if you were agreeing with him or not.


Coming to Captree this sunday?
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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What a dumb statement.


Very common at the track to use ice between runs to cool down a car doing runs in quick succession..

On the brightside, he took out the "factory freak" part in his sig. lol
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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Dynojet should give you the run files. You can download the software from their site and play with the data all you like. (Create your own charts ect)

Correction means everything though. At STD correction my 5th run was 459whp 419 tq. At SAE 447whp 408 tq. SAE is the most common.


I hope I can make it to the track. If I cant get DR's by that time hopefully dodger will give us his so we can chase that 11.6!
I wont have DR. But hopefully I could borrow someones. If not I'm going for trap speeds!
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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I've seen that dyno at work in person!! It reads very low
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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Didnt know if you were agreeing with him or not.


Coming to Captree this sunday?
I dont have to answer that question.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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I dont have to answer that question.


I was hoping not.


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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:41 PM
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On the brightside, he took out the "factory freak" part in his sig. lol
Why yes I still think I have a factory freak!
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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Why yes I still think I have a factory freak!
If your numbers are SAE they are very good. But you know your skinny *** also helps you in a race!
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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I was hoping not.


See you Sunday?
Yes the autobahn.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:44 PM
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If your numbers are SAE they are very good. But you know your skinny *** also helps you in a race!
Couldnt say it better myself!
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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Yes the autobahn.
I finally met the jeep guy. Nice guy.

Ill be there at about 9am. If its below 50 were gonna be running natural NOS.


Gratz on your results. Later.
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Well I did prove a point bro. When comparing my #s to my friends E63 with same tune,same shop,same temps=similar #s. BUT his E63 has airbox mod,K&N,charcoal delete! BTW Atco is this month on the 22nd.
Hey Jon, you can't compare my E63 numbers to your numbers to prove that k&N/air mod argument. Also dont forget we are running different tranys as well, so cant compare these numbers the way you do. The only way to show is to dyno your car with and without the mods preferably on the same day, same dyno.

All you are showing is that my E63 and your C63 are putting down similar HP to the wheels. I cant show anything either since I don't have the baseline dyno before the mods and after the mods. So the whole point is mute.

But I can tell you that I did feel the difference in throttle response after the K&N and TTM airbox mode. That is all I can say.

BTW, did you find out if the numbers are SAE corrected or not?
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Hey Jon, you can't compare my E63 numbers to your numbers to prove that k&N/air mod argument. Also dont forget we are running different tranys as well, so cant compare these numbers the way you do. The only way to show is to dyno your car with and without the mods preferably on the same day, same dyno.

All you are showing is that my E63 and your C63 are putting down similar HP to the wheels. I cant show anything either since I don't have the baseline dyno before the mods and after the mods. So the whole point is mute.

But I can tell you that I did feel the difference in throttle response after the K&N and TTM airbox mode. That is all I can say.

BTW, did you find out if the numbers are SAE corrected or not?

I was going to get into the E63, C63 last night but decided not to with him.

As I said before the only way to prove a point would be to swap out the filters and do a box mod and Dyno it again on the same day with the same conditions on the same dyno. I would put money on the C63 performing slightly better in HP and TQ.

I want to see his chart at this point. An answer is not good enough for me. I was to see the chart with the correction on it. Dynojet provides the run files and they are easily view on any home PC. The reason I want to see the chart is I know Jon and I know he will stop at nothing to be right.


Coming down Sunday Albert?
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Ok I just have the OE-tuning. Everything is stock-no airbox mod,stock filters,charcoals intact. The 432 max hp was done with a long cool down. But still operating temps.
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I was going to get into the E63, C63 last night but decided not to with him.

As I said before the only way to prove a point would be to swap out the filters and do a box mod and Dyno it again on the same day with the same conditions on the same dyno. I would put money on the C63 performing slightly better in HP and TQ.

I want to see his chart at this point. An answer is not good enough for me. I was to see the chart with the correction on it. Dynojet provides the run files and they are easily view on any home PC. The reason I want to see the chart is I know Jon and I know he will stop at nothing to be right.


Coming down Sunday Albert?
What's on Sunday? Captree?
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What's on Sunday? Captree?

Yeah, coffee and cars.
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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Hey Jon, you can't compare my E63 numbers to your numbers to prove that k&N/air mod argument. Also dont forget we are running different tranys as well, so cant compare these numbers the way you do. The only way to show is to dyno your car with and without the mods preferably on the same day, same dyno.

All you are showing is that my E63 and your C63 are putting down similar HP to the wheels. I cant show anything either since I don't have the baseline dyno before the mods and after the mods. So the whole point is mute.

But I can tell you that I did feel the difference in throttle response after the K&N and TTM airbox mode. That is all I can say.

BTW, did you find out if the numbers are SAE corrected or not?
I called the shop and talked to Dave the owner. He pulled out the files for our dyno runs. He said we were very close in dyno #s. Which makes sense considering we both have same tunes. When you see him tomorrow you could ask him.
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I was going to get into the E63, C63 last night but decided not to with him.

As I said before the only way to prove a point would be to swap out the filters and do a box mod and Dyno it again on the same day with the same conditions on the same dyno. I would put money on the C63 performing slightly better in HP and TQ.

I want to see his chart at this point. An answer is not good enough for me. I was to see the chart with the correction on it. Dynojet provides the run files and they are easily view on any home PC. The reason I want to see the chart is I know Jon and I know he will stop at nothing to be right.


Coming down Sunday Albert?
I will see you at the Autobahn
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by propain
I was going to get into the E63, C63 last night but decided not to with him.

As I said before the only way to prove a point would be to swap out the filters and do a box mod and Dyno it again on the same day with the same conditions on the same dyno. I would put money on the C63 performing slightly better in HP and TQ.

I want to see his chart at this point. An answer is not good enough for me. I was to see the chart with the correction on it. Dynojet provides the run files and they are easily view on any home PC. The reason I want to see the chart is I know Jon and I know he will stop at nothing to be right.


Coming down Sunday Albert?
Actually Dodger's C63 swapped modded airbox with Mthis and there was no difference at track. He mentioned this on the forum.
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