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BTW Atco is this month on the 22nd.
Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Well I did prove a point bro. When comparing my #s to my friends E63 with same tune,same shop,same temps=similar #s. BUT his E63 has airbox mod,K&N,charcoal delete! BTW Atco is this month on the 22nd.
Are you talking about Albert?
For the 10000 times. What correction?
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Very common at the track to use ice between runs to cool down a car doing runs in quick succession..
+1 yeah nitrous a 15 shotOriginally Posted by propain
What a dumb statement. Very common at the track to use ice between runs to cool down a car doing runs in quick succession..
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
+1 yeah nitrous a 15 shot
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For the 10000 times. What correction?
Yes. Not sure on correction. Will have to call.Originally Posted by propain
Are you talking about Albert?For the 10000 times. What correction?
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Say again....
I was being sarcastic.Originally Posted by propain
Say again....
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Dynojet should give you the run files. You can download the software from their site and play with the data all you like. (Create your own charts ect)Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Yes. Not sure on correction. Will have to call.
Correction means everything though. At STD correction my 5th run was 459whp 419 tq. At SAE 447whp 408 tq. SAE is the most common.
I hope I can make it to the track. If I cant get DR's by that time hopefully dodger will give us his so we can chase that 11.6!
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Didnt know if you were agreeing with him or not. Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
I was being sarcastic.
Coming to Captree this sunday?
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Very common at the track to use ice between runs to cool down a car doing runs in quick succession..
Originally Posted by propain
What a dumb statement. Very common at the track to use ice between runs to cool down a car doing runs in quick succession..
On the brightside, he took out the "factory freak" part in his sig. lol
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Correction means everything though. At STD correction my 5th run was 459whp 419 tq. At SAE 447whp 408 tq. SAE is the most common.
I hope I can make it to the track. If I cant get DR's by that time hopefully dodger will give us his so we can chase that 11.6!
I wont have DR. But hopefully I could borrow someones. If not I'm going for trap speeds!Originally Posted by propain
Dynojet should give you the run files. You can download the software from their site and play with the data all you like. (Create your own charts ect)Correction means everything though. At STD correction my 5th run was 459whp 419 tq. At SAE 447whp 408 tq. SAE is the most common.
I hope I can make it to the track. If I cant get DR's by that time hopefully dodger will give us his so we can chase that 11.6!
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I've seen that dyno at work in person!! It reads very low
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I dont have to answer that question.Originally Posted by propain
Didnt know if you were agreeing with him or not. Coming to Captree this sunday?
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
I dont have to answer that question.
I was hoping not.
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Why yes I still think I have a factory freak!Originally Posted by I am Jeff
On the brightside, he took out the "factory freak" part in his sig. lol
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If your numbers are SAE they are very good. But you know your skinny *** also helps you in a race! Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Why yes I still think I have a factory freak!
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I was hoping not.
See you Sunday?
Yes the autobahn.Originally Posted by propain
I was hoping not.
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Couldnt say it better myself!Originally Posted by propain
If your numbers are SAE they are very good. But you know your skinny *** also helps you in a race!
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I finally met the jeep guy. Nice guy.Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Yes the autobahn.
Ill be there at about 9am. If its below 50 were gonna be running natural NOS.
Gratz on your results. Later.
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BTW Atco is this month on the 22nd.
Hey Jon, you can't compare my E63 numbers to your numbers to prove that k&N/air mod argument. Also dont forget we are running different tranys as well, so cant compare these numbers the way you do. The only way to show is to dyno your car with and without the mods preferably on the same day, same dyno. Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Well I did prove a point bro. When comparing my #s to my friends E63 with same tune,same shop,same temps=similar #s. BUT his E63 has airbox mod,K&N,charcoal delete! BTW Atco is this month on the 22nd.
All you are showing is that my E63 and your C63 are putting down similar HP to the wheels. I cant show anything either since I don't have the baseline dyno before the mods and after the mods. So the whole point is mute.
But I can tell you that I did feel the difference in throttle response after the K&N and TTM airbox mode. That is all I can say.
BTW, did you find out if the numbers are SAE corrected or not?
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All you are showing is that my E63 and your C63 are putting down similar HP to the wheels. I cant show anything either since I don't have the baseline dyno before the mods and after the mods. So the whole point is mute.
But I can tell you that I did feel the difference in throttle response after the K&N and TTM airbox mode. That is all I can say.
BTW, did you find out if the numbers are SAE corrected or not?
Originally Posted by AlbertM
Hey Jon, you can't compare my E63 numbers to your numbers to prove that k&N/air mod argument. Also dont forget we are running different tranys as well, so cant compare these numbers the way you do. The only way to show is to dyno your car with and without the mods preferably on the same day, same dyno. All you are showing is that my E63 and your C63 are putting down similar HP to the wheels. I cant show anything either since I don't have the baseline dyno before the mods and after the mods. So the whole point is mute.
But I can tell you that I did feel the difference in throttle response after the K&N and TTM airbox mode. That is all I can say.
BTW, did you find out if the numbers are SAE corrected or not?
I was going to get into the E63, C63 last night but decided not to with him.
As I said before the only way to prove a point would be to swap out the filters and do a box mod and Dyno it again on the same day with the same conditions on the same dyno. I would put money on the C63 performing slightly better in HP and TQ.
I want to see his chart at this point. An answer is not good enough for me. I was to see the chart with the correction on it. Dynojet provides the run files and they are easily view on any home PC. The reason I want to see the chart is I know Jon and I know he will stop at nothing to be right.
Coming down Sunday Albert?
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NICE GAINS!!! JEREMY DOES IT AGAIN!Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Ok I just have the OE-tuning. Everything is stock-no airbox mod,stock filters,charcoals intact. The 432 max hp was done with a long cool down. But still operating temps.
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As I said before the only way to prove a point would be to swap out the filters and do a box mod and Dyno it again on the same day with the same conditions on the same dyno. I would put money on the C63 performing slightly better in HP and TQ.
I want to see his chart at this point. An answer is not good enough for me. I was to see the chart with the correction on it. Dynojet provides the run files and they are easily view on any home PC. The reason I want to see the chart is I know Jon and I know he will stop at nothing to be right.
Coming down Sunday Albert?
What's on Sunday? Captree?Originally Posted by propain
I was going to get into the E63, C63 last night but decided not to with him. As I said before the only way to prove a point would be to swap out the filters and do a box mod and Dyno it again on the same day with the same conditions on the same dyno. I would put money on the C63 performing slightly better in HP and TQ.
I want to see his chart at this point. An answer is not good enough for me. I was to see the chart with the correction on it. Dynojet provides the run files and they are easily view on any home PC. The reason I want to see the chart is I know Jon and I know he will stop at nothing to be right.
Coming down Sunday Albert?
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Originally Posted by AlbertM
What's on Sunday? Captree?
Yeah, coffee and cars.
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All you are showing is that my E63 and your C63 are putting down similar HP to the wheels. I cant show anything either since I don't have the baseline dyno before the mods and after the mods. So the whole point is mute.
But I can tell you that I did feel the difference in throttle response after the K&N and TTM airbox mode. That is all I can say.
BTW, did you find out if the numbers are SAE corrected or not?
I called the shop and talked to Dave the owner. He pulled out the files for our dyno runs. He said we were very close in dyno #s. Which makes sense considering we both have same tunes. When you see him tomorrow you could ask him.Originally Posted by AlbertM
Hey Jon, you can't compare my E63 numbers to your numbers to prove that k&N/air mod argument. Also dont forget we are running different tranys as well, so cant compare these numbers the way you do. The only way to show is to dyno your car with and without the mods preferably on the same day, same dyno. All you are showing is that my E63 and your C63 are putting down similar HP to the wheels. I cant show anything either since I don't have the baseline dyno before the mods and after the mods. So the whole point is mute.
But I can tell you that I did feel the difference in throttle response after the K&N and TTM airbox mode. That is all I can say.
BTW, did you find out if the numbers are SAE corrected or not?
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As I said before the only way to prove a point would be to swap out the filters and do a box mod and Dyno it again on the same day with the same conditions on the same dyno. I would put money on the C63 performing slightly better in HP and TQ.
I want to see his chart at this point. An answer is not good enough for me. I was to see the chart with the correction on it. Dynojet provides the run files and they are easily view on any home PC. The reason I want to see the chart is I know Jon and I know he will stop at nothing to be right.
Coming down Sunday Albert?
I will see you at the AutobahnOriginally Posted by propain
I was going to get into the E63, C63 last night but decided not to with him. As I said before the only way to prove a point would be to swap out the filters and do a box mod and Dyno it again on the same day with the same conditions on the same dyno. I would put money on the C63 performing slightly better in HP and TQ.
I want to see his chart at this point. An answer is not good enough for me. I was to see the chart with the correction on it. Dynojet provides the run files and they are easily view on any home PC. The reason I want to see the chart is I know Jon and I know he will stop at nothing to be right.
Coming down Sunday Albert?
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As I said before the only way to prove a point would be to swap out the filters and do a box mod and Dyno it again on the same day with the same conditions on the same dyno. I would put money on the C63 performing slightly better in HP and TQ.
I want to see his chart at this point. An answer is not good enough for me. I was to see the chart with the correction on it. Dynojet provides the run files and they are easily view on any home PC. The reason I want to see the chart is I know Jon and I know he will stop at nothing to be right.
Coming down Sunday Albert?
Actually Dodger's C63 swapped modded airbox with Mthis and there was no difference at track. He mentioned this on the forum.Originally Posted by propain
I was going to get into the E63, C63 last night but decided not to with him. As I said before the only way to prove a point would be to swap out the filters and do a box mod and Dyno it again on the same day with the same conditions on the same dyno. I would put money on the C63 performing slightly better in HP and TQ.
I want to see his chart at this point. An answer is not good enough for me. I was to see the chart with the correction on it. Dynojet provides the run files and they are easily view on any home PC. The reason I want to see the chart is I know Jon and I know he will stop at nothing to be right.
Coming down Sunday Albert?
