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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 10:07 PM
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Like you said, broken axle. I'm shopping for a new axle now. So far, I'm looking at $1K in parts and labor. If you and Haji didn't come through for me, would have been a lot more time and $$$. A big Thanks!!! to both of you.
And I did get to 12.42 which is #3 overall for all C32s. Not bad for a 3.2 litter SC V6.
And to Jon, I think you may have finally got it. It's you. You do need some more practice. Remember, this is not braket racing. Don't worry about your reaction time. Right now it's all about your 60' time. Then you will see what your car is capable of.
Hope your not mad at my for over pushing I get very worked up when you hit that 12.42 I jumped about 5 feet in the air the gtr boys thought I was crazy!! I no you will do better!!
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Lenin
Like you said, broken axle. I'm shopping for a new axle now. So far, I'm looking at $1K in parts and labor. If you and Haji didn't come through for me, would have been a lot more time and $$$. A big Thanks!!! to both of you.
And I did get to 12.42 which is #3 overall for all C32s. Not bad for a 3.2 litter SC V6.
And to Jon, I think you may have finally got it. It's you. You do need some more practice. Remember, this is not braket racing. Don't worry about your reaction time. Right now it's all about your 60' time. Then you will see what your car is capable of.
Good thing everything turned out fine.
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 10:34 PM
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Hope your not mad at my for over pushing I get very worked up when you hit that 12.42 I jumped about 5 feet in the air the gtr boys thought I was crazy!! I no you will do better!!
Mike,
That just shows the kind of classy guy you are. Not many (if any) would even bring it up in public or in private. I'm not mad at you at all. You gave me a sound technical advise and I followed it. I don't think I can be pushed into anything (unless I'm alone with a young ****). I'm actually very happy that I got to know you and Hagi. And it's not the track records. It's the way you carry youself when not running your car. True leader.
I'll be back next year. You can count on it.
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 12:01 AM
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Jon...If you ever get a chance to re-read this thread, no one here was attacking your car or the power it made. You just need to calm down and relax yourself. Focus on getting that 11.6 and not antagonizing ppl on this forum. Jim made nice with you and even supported your quest for 11.6, but how did you repay his kindness? "I BEAT HIS *** ALL SUNDAY!" If you haven't learned by now, that's not exactly how to make friends. Just focus on your and calm down on your
Actually, I think blackbenz is correct: it is likely the car + his driving. I've seen many C63 launch at 2000 rpm fine with no bog at all. I've even launched my E63 at those speeds and got no bog (got wheel spin but no bog).

Another ironic side to all of this is that he was also arguing about oldgixxer's 11.9 second stock run in his E63, which was ran at the same track with similar conditions. Not only did he not come close to oldgixxer's record.... but oldgixxer actually cut a better 60' time on sh*ty continental stock street tires using a heavier (and allegedly slower) car than Jon did on drag radials

He may need to get a baby seat to match oldgixxer's record on street tires

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5TOGO4noJA
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
Actually, I think blackbenz is correct: it is likely the car + his driving. I've seen many C63 launch at 2000 rpm fine with no bog at all. I've even launched my E63 at those speeds and got no bog (got wheel spin but no bog).

Another ironic side to all of this is that he was also arguing about oldgixxer's 11.9 second stock run in his E63, which was ran at the same track with similar conditions. Not only did he not come close to oldgixxer's record.... but oldgixxer actually cut a better 60' time on sh*ty continental stock street tires using a heavier (and allegedly slower) car than Jon did on drag radials

He may need to get a baby seat to match oldgixxer's record on street tires

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5TOGO4noJA
Lol Mo,maybe oldgixxer has the true "factory freak" or is just a more experienced driver...the other E63 that was there w him that day&ran back to back after his 11.9 run only managed 12.1@116 w a similiar 60'.

Jon,maybe you should line up with oldgixxer&see whats up? Hes in NY too I think
Hagi,Propain,or Mike can vid the run
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
Actually, I think blackbenz is correct: it is likely the car + his driving. I've seen many C63 launch at 2000 rpm fine with no bog at all. I've even launched my E63 at those speeds and got no bog (got wheel spin but no bog).

Another ironic side to all of this is that he was also arguing about oldgixxer's 11.9 second stock run in his E63, which was ran at the same track with similar conditions. Not only did he not come close to oldgixxer's record.... but oldgixxer actually cut a better 60' time on sh*ty continental stock street tires using a heavier (and allegedly slower) car than Jon did on drag radials

He may need to get a baby seat to match oldgixxer's record on street tires

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5TOGO4noJA
Old gixxer ran in 40F same conditions? I ran in 64F thats 24F difference. Like I said I did bog. Maybe its the tune or my driving.
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 08:43 AM
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Lol Mo,maybe oldgixxer has the true "factory freak" or is just a more experienced driver...the other E63 that was there w him that day&ran back to back after his 11.9 run only managed 12.1@116 w a similiar 60'.

Jon,maybe you should line up with oldgixxer&see whats up? Hes in NY too I think
Hagi,Propain,or Mike can vid the run
Bring it on! Guys know where I am Sunday am From a roll there is no driver error so bring any stock e63. I'm not saying who is going to get raped. Let the video speak!
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 08:43 AM
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then you should have no problem beating oldgixxer
Rolls are for sandwhiches,a dragrace is from the dig.....
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 118E63
then you should have no problem beating oldgixxer
Rolls are for sandwhiches,a dragrace is from the dig.....
Drag-all about the 60ft than hp
Roll-pure hp

So bring the real factory freak-old gixxer e63.
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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aww come on w the excuses...why bother going to a track rental if all your concerned with is rolls?Too many variables w a roll to get a clean run...one car jumped,one car left on the 2nd honk etc etc etc;line up from the dig w a flagman&RUN!!!!! Then its a true race IMO.

And BTW,you never replied to my PM about your car vs my GSXR-600..I was giving you 5 car lengths&the break if you forgot..I had it at MIR saturday,its not that fast&I think it'd be a good run

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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Lenin
And I did get to 12.42 which is #3 overall for all C32s. Not bad for a 3.2 litter SC V6
once again- AWESOME JOB ON THIS

I know very well how hard it is to get the 32 in the low 12's You have done well, and I can't wait to see you go 12.2 or high 11's!

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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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Easy guys we are getting close to the line here!!
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 11:07 AM
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Easy guys we are getting close to the line here!!
Alright I'll take your advice and play nice.
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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Let's all just show up to his stomping ground.. Captree Sunday morning at 8.. And see what he's got!! Let's go!! Whose in
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dodger63
Let's all just show up to his stomping ground.. Captree Sunday morning at 8.. And see what he's got!! Let's go!! Whose in
You're gonna wake up that early on Sunday? I think the only way that you'll be there that early on Sunday is if you camp out in the parking lot after work!!!!
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It sounds like I have to start stocking GoPro video cameras!!!! Who needs some?

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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 11:36 AM
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Great to hear you beat your personal best Lenin! Your were running so consistent that day. Good job! Nice meeting you as well!
Originally Posted by Lenin
Like you said, broken axle. I'm shopping for a new axle now. So far, I'm looking at $1K in parts and labor. If you and Haji didn't come through for me, would have been a lot more time and $$$. A big Thanks!!! to both of you.
And I did get to 12.42 which is #3 overall for all C32s. Not bad for a 3.2 litter SC V6.
And to Jon, I think you may have finally got it. It's you. You do need some more practice. Remember, this is not braket racing. Don't worry about your reaction time. Right now it's all about your 60' time. Then you will see what your car is capable of.
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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You're gonna wake up that early on Sunday? I think the only way that you'll be there that early on Sunday is if you camp out in the parking lot after work!!!!
This could be an epic week Mir, atco twice, 4 days of work and captree look at me go!!

Who nos maybe I can line a little something up between 5 and 7:30 after work!!
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Originally Posted by dodger63
This could be an epic week Mir, atco twice, 4 days of work and captree look at me go!!

Who nos maybe I can line a little something up between 5 and 7:30 after work!!
I'm down with the between 5-7:30, only fun things can happen at that time
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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Old gixxer ran in 40F same conditions? I ran in 64F thats 24F difference. Like I said I did bog. Maybe its the tune or my driving.
Wow.... so now you're saying the temp difference was why you couldn't beat his 60' time?

Oldgixxer's run was actually at 45 F and some of your first runs (on street tires) were at 50 F, so conditions were similar early on in the day. Apparently your first few runs on street tires ranged from 12.4 to 13.1 and you didn't get into the 12.1s until things started to warm up. But notice that even when temps did warm up a little (near 60-65 F), conditions actually gave you the advantage NOT to oldgixxer in terms 60' time (even on street tires) since generally speaking 60 F environment causes the VHT to stick much better than in 40 F environment. In addition to the more sticky surface, you had yet advantage (again in terms of 60') when you started using DR (later in the day). However, with all those advantages on your side, you STILL DID NOT BEAT his 60' time. So lets see.... you had the following advantages:

1) You ran in 50 F to 63 F temps, which are about 10 to 15 F warmer than temps during oldgixxer's run but it actually favors traction because it allows the VHT stick much more than in 40 F.

2) You tried drag radials many times but only got one run in the 11s and even on that run, you didn't beat his 60' time. The rest of the runs were all over 12 seconds.

3) You had a lighter car (and lighter driver) with a fairly aggressive tune (meaning more power than even a stock E63) yet you still did NOT beat his 60' time and could only beat his ET record using drag radials.

Do you think in 40 F or even 35 F, you could still cut a better 60' time and better 1/4 mile run on stock tires, filters, etc... ? I have a feeling that if oldgixxer was indeed at ATCO, he would've annihilate you run after run (at least for most of the day).

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Wow.... so now you're saying the temp difference was why you couldn't beat his 60' time?

Oldgixxer's run was actually at 45 F and some of your first runs (on street tires) were at 50 F, so conditions were similar early on in the day. Apparently your first few runs on street tires ranged from 12.4 to 13.1 and you didn't get into the 12.1s until things started to warm up. But notice that even when temps did warm up a little (near 60-65 F), conditions actually gave you the advantage NOT to oldgixxer in terms 60' time (even on street tires) since generally speaking 60 F environment causes the VHT to stick much better than in 40 F environment. In addition to the more sticky surface, you had yet advantage (again in terms of 60') when you started using DR (later in the day). However, with all those advantages on your side, you STILL DID NOT BEAT his 60' time. So lets see.... you had the following advantages:

1) You ran in 50 F to 63 F temps, which are about 10 to 15 F warmer than temps during oldgixxer's run but it actually favors traction because it allows the VHT stick much more than in 40 F.

2) You tried drag radials many times but only got one run in the 11s and even on that run, you didn't beat his 60' time. The rest of the runs were all over 12 seconds.

3) You had a lighter car (and lighter driver) with a fairly aggressive tune (meaning more power than even a stock E63) yet you still did NOT beat his 60' time and could only beat his ET record using drag radials.

Do you think in 40 F or even 35 F, you could still cut a better 60' time and better 1/4 mile run on stock tires, filters, etc... ? I have a feeling that if oldgixxer was indeed at ATCO, he would've annihilate you run after run (at least for most of the day).
Dude just cut to the chase and bring your or the real factory freak e63-old gixxer on Sunday.
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aww come on w the excuses...why bother going to a track rental if all your concerned with is rolls?Too many variables w a roll to get a clean run...one car jumped,one car left on the 2nd honk etc etc etc;line up from the dig w a flagman&RUN!!!!! Then its a true race IMO.

And BTW,you never replied to my PM about your car vs my GSXR-600..I was giving you 5 car lengths&the break if you forgot..I had it at MIR saturday,its not that fast&I think it'd be a good run
Alright then I will let the e63 get the jump ok? And your bike. Bring it out Sunday I know this guy with a 850hp C6 Vette now thats a race
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Alright then I will let the e63 get the jump ok? And your bike. Bring it out Sunday I know this guy with a 850hp C6 Vette now thats a race
-from the dig ur giving the E63 the jump?
-so ur not willing to run the 600?
-whats ur buddy w a 850hp vette have to do with this? Is that supposed to scare me?

and the only board member that proclaims over&over&over&over that he owns a "factory freak" is you...no one else
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-from the dig ur giving the E63 the jump?
-so ur not willing to run the 600?
-whats ur buddy w a 850hp vette have to do with this? Is that supposed to scare me?

and the only board member that proclaims over&over&over&over that he owns a "factory freak" is you...no one else
I wasnt born yesterday dude. I know how fast the bike is. Also yes on the street off the line the real factory freak-e63 vs my c63. This is not a 1/4 run.
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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Actually, I think blackbenz is correct: it is likely the car + his driving. I've seen many C63 launch at 2000 rpm fine with no bog at all. I've even launched my E63 at those speeds and got no bog (got wheel spin but no bog).

Another ironic side to all of this is that he was also arguing about oldgixxer's 11.9 second stock run in his E63, which was ran at the same track with similar conditions. Not only did he not come close to oldgixxer's record.... but oldgixxer actually cut a better 60' time on sh*ty continental stock street tires using a heavier (and allegedly slower) car than Jon did on drag radials

He may need to get a baby seat to match oldgixxer's record on street tires

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5TOGO4noJA
This is the part I'm utterly confused about. If two cars have about the same rwhp, and they have the same engine, I think the same trans, how does the heavier car cut a better 60' time than the lighter car when the heavier car is on street tires and lighter car is on dr's?

I've noticed some E63's can cut 1.7's on stock tires, definitely 1.8's. So, what's the deal? Why can't tuned C63's do the same thing?
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