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Old 12-04-2010, 10:14 PM
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Update w/ Video :: Exhaust Inserts (Silencers) for MHP Long-tube Headers :: C63

The catless MHP long-tube headers are crazy-loud @ cold start and under Wide Open Throttle. I've been hunting for a way to silence this for daily-driving.

I'm happy to say the solution MHP came up with works and it is fairly easy to install/remove. A lift (or some high jack-stands) is required so you can easily remove the mid-pipes.

There are two parts to the system.

- The Silencers
- Modified O2 sensor caps/plugs

The MHP mid-pipes come with extra O2 bungs and caps already in place. These modified O2 plugs replace the existing O2 caps. After the plugs are in place, the silencers simply slide into the front of the mid-pipes until they stop at the plug. It's like having a little muffler inside the 3" mid-pipe located right after the collector. Note: A little ring welded at the front of the silencer makes it easy to pull/remove.

After installing these, I've tamed the beast. Cold starts are no longer brash shotgun like blasts out of my garage. It still sounds very aggressive but the really obnoxious bark is gone. I'm finally comfortable starting this car in the morning. When it's time for the track, I'll simply pull them out.

I don't have any fancy photos other than what I quickly shot when I had them installed. They should give you a visual of how it works.

Silencers and modified plugs:


Looking into the Silencer (notice the Ring/pull in front):


Inserting the Silencer into the mid-pipe:


Long-term, I'll be working on a simpler easy-out system using V-band clamps. I'd like to be able swap out this silencer at the track without the need for a lift. Stay tuned as I continue to tweak this with my local installer.

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Genius.

Having owned an obnoxiously loud LT-equipped car, I commend this endeavor and I'm happy to hear it's working.

Does the car feel less powerful when driving around with the silencer inserted?
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Originally Posted by SonnyakaPig
Genius.

Does the car feel less powerful when driving around with the silencer inserted?
Do tell, Super.

Also, it looks like the inside of a regular glasspack without the packing. Now we just need your typical before and after dyno.

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Again, very clear and complete wrie up as usual! Thanks a lot!
Any clip for cold start will be highly appreciated!
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Nice, how much for this? what size are those bolts?

edit: maybe its me, but the two silencers look to be different diameters, pourquoi?

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Originally Posted by SonnyakaPig
Genius.

Having owned an obnoxiously loud LT-equipped car, I commend this endeavor and I'm happy to hear it's working.

Does the car feel less powerful when driving around with the silencer inserted?
I'm sure it makes less power with the in there but it doesn't feel much different to me. My car is nuts on the street either way . . . especially when it's been in the 30's all week.

Once I have them where I can easily remove and replace I'll test out the power differences at the track.

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Do tell, Super.

Also, it looks like the inside of a regular glasspack without the packing. Now we just need your typical before and after dyno.
Yep. I considered using some packing as well. I might when I start messing with the v-band configuration.

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Nice, how much for this? what size are those bolts?

edit: maybe its me, but the two silencers look to be different diameters, pourquoi?
Silencers are identical in diameter. I took the first photo at a weird angle with my BlackBerry to avoid the flash/glare. They fit very sung inside the 3" diameter mid-pipes. You can reach out to the manufacturer regarding pricing, etc.
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I need to get set of those. I just installed cargraphic headers and I'm facing same issue
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Price and before and after Dyno would be awesome!
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Originally Posted by superlubricity
The catless MHP long-tube headers are crazy-loud @ cold start and under Wide Open Throttle. I've been hunting for a way to silence this for daily-driving.

I'm happy to say the solution MHP came up with works and it is fairly easy to install/remove. A lift (or some high jack-stands) is required so you can easily remove the mid-pipes.

There are two parts to the system.

- The Silencers
- Modified O2 sensor caps/plugs

The MHP mid-pipes come with extra O2 bungs and caps already in place. These modified O2 plugs replace the existing O2 caps. After the plugs are in place, the silencers simply slide into the front of the mid-pipes until they stop at the plug. It's like having a little muffler inside the 3" mid-pipe located right after the collector. Note: A little ring welded at the front of the silencer makes it easy to pull/remove.

After installing these, I've tamed the beast. Cold starts are no longer brash shotgun like blasts out of my garage. It still sounds very aggressive but the really obnoxious bark is gone. I'm finally comfortable starting this car in the morning. When it's time for the track, I'll simply pull them out.

I don't have any fancy photos other than what I quickly shot when I had them installed. They should give you a visual of how it works.

Silencers and modified plugs:


Looking into the Silencer (notice the Ring/pull in front):


Inserting the Silencer into the mid-pipe:


Long-term, I'll be working on a simpler easy-out system using V-band clamps. I'd like to be able swap out this silencer at the track without the need for a lift. Stay tuned as I continue to tweak this with my local installer.

You may have just sold me a pair on MHP long tubes. How easy are these to remove and put back?

Do you have a before and after sound clip?
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I have contacted cargraphic regarding using same parts with cargraphic system and here is there reply:

Hello Abdullah,

So I have just checked with my collegue and he told me that he do not advise the part which you have send me the pictures! Because with this part the exhaust gas back presure would be to high, and that's not good for the motor!!
what do you think ?
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Hey Super, considered a set of in-line Dynomax Race Bullets?
http://www.dynomax.com/mufflers.php?muffler=racebullet

They might take the agressiveness out without sacrificing too much flow, might even be able to just leave them in full time...
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I have contacted cargraphic regarding using same parts with cargraphic system and here is there reply:



what do you think ?
I think you'll need to find a different solution for your system. These are designed to work with MHP's 3" mid-pipes. These won't fit inside your 2.75" mid-pipes.

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Hey Super, considered a set of in-line Dynomax Race Bullets?
http://www.dynomax.com/mufflers.php?muffler=racebullet

They might take the agressiveness out without sacrificing too much flow, might even be able to just leave them in full time...
Yes, I considered bullets. No need to look further now, my problem is solved with these.
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Originally Posted by superlubricity
I think you'll need to find a different solution for your system. These are designed to work with MHP's 3" mid-pipes. These won't fit inside your 2.75" mid-pipes.
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what if similar ones were made to fit the cargraphic headers? do you have any other solution?
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try the dynomax race resonators...let me know I may need them
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Cold Start Video w/ the Silencers in place -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LejGK2OoNS0

Yes, I was playing around with some Video Filters . . .
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Ha! Too civilized, but it is toned down for sure.
Well, that's the point.

I've got the V-bands here. I just need to get some 3" stainless so I can have SGA make the swappable silencers and test pipes. It's going to be a really simple in/out at the track.
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Well, that's the point.

I've got the V-bands here. I just need to get some 3" stainless so I can have SGA make the swappable silencers and test pipes. It's going to be a really simple in/out at the track.
Keep checking the website, when are they going to post the 2011 sked???
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Keep checking the website, when are they going to post the 2011 sked???
Have you called them yet? I imagine the earliest would be March.
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Originally Posted by superlubricity
Cold Start Video w/ the Silencers in place -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LejGK2OoNS0

Yes, I was playing around with some Video Filters . . .
Were you watching this when making the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EXxMlIExpo

Can't wait to see what the cost in power is with these on.

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Were you watching this when making the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EXxMlIExpo
Yep.
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These silencers are for sale however I do not have the modified plugs anymore.

Any exhaust shop could easily make the plugs in a couple minutes.

Best offer + shipping take them. PM me if you want them.
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These silencers are for sale however I do not have the modified plugs anymore.

Any exhaust shop could easily make the plugs in a couple minutes.

Best offer + shipping take them. PM me if you want them.
Last call before I scrap these.
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I realize I'm bumping an old thread but I'm interested to find out more about these "inserts". The picture links are down and I can't find any website/url for MHP. Thanks in advance.


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