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Old 12-10-2010, 07:49 PM
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Video: C63 OEtuned vs E63 modded

That is Jon's C63 OEtuned vs my 2010 E63, my mods are: K1, K&N, charcoal delete, ROW airbox, primary cat delete. Start watching from 50sec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgslOfOOPns
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So Albert what else you got done?
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pretty much even , Nice . the mods looks like a even balance with the lighter C
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Great run!!! Shows the true power of a OE tuned C63.
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So Albert what else you got done?
hehe, other than put back my stock manifolds + cat delete, nothing. Keep in minds folks I was loosing to Jon consistently 2-3 cars 40-140.
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Crazy give and take race. Jon if you got filters and the airbox mod you would have pulled away probably. when ya gonna learn? Stock filters are crap.

How much more does that E63 weigh? 400 more? Primary Cat delete really did wonders on the E63.

Didn't hear a horn, you guys need to do that next time.

Car looks strong again Albert! Get it to the track and lets see what she does.


Was that the Kleeman tune???? Now I wonder, you sure you didnt do anything else... LOL

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cat delete = 30whp on E63? Impressive. Really impressive.
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Crazy give and take race. Jon if you got filters and the airbox mod you would have pulled away probably.

How much more does that E63 weigh? 400 more? Primary Cat delete really did wonders on the E63.

Didn't hear a horn, you guys need to do that next time.

Car looks strong again Albert! Get it to the track and lets see what she does.
Actually there were 3 honks, as you can see we punched at the same time. My E63 definitely gained some power. Again, every previous run with Jon was 2-3 cars in his favor.
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C63 should be around 400lbs lighter. Yes, I have Kleemann tune now, but oetune is more aggressive should make 10 hp more. I might switch back, it is just a pain taking the ecu out.
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Very nice man. Glad to see your back in action. Im sure you had a big smile on your face after that run!

Happy for you, you deserve it after all the BS you been through. Im next!
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One of the runs we did all the way to 166.5 (vbox) and dead even uptop, no video though.
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bc your wallet is lighter now
Hehe, true.
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Originally Posted by propain
Crazy give and take race. Jon if you got filters and the airbox mod you would have pulled away probably. when ya gonna learn? Stock filters are crap.

How much more does that E63 weigh? 400 more? Primary Cat delete really did wonders on the E63.

Didn't hear a horn, you guys need to do that next time.

Car looks strong again Albert! Get it to the track and lets see what she does.


Was that the Kleeman tune???? Now I wonder, you sure you didnt do anything else... LOL
Yes there was a horn-turn up the volume. It was hard to hear his horn from the car too. Cat delete made a huge difference. Car sounds like a long tube c63-loud!
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Very nice man. Glad to see your back in action. Im sure you had a big smile on your face after that run!

Happy for you, you deserve it after all the BS you been through. Im next!
Thanks, I am enjoying my car. The car is significantly louder, but I like it. I might want to go with H/F cats primary cats later, but for now I will keep it that way.
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Thanks, I am enjoying my car. The car is significantly louder, but I like it. I might want to go with H/F cats primary cats later, but for now I will keep it that way.
Too bad you had to go through with all the BS with the car. Now go dyno it! I'm seeing 460whp!
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Too bad you had to go through with all the BS with the car. Now go dyno it! I'm seeing 460whp!
I doubt it, considering my last dyno was @ around 409, I am expecting max 440 RWHP.

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cat delete = 30whp on E63? Impressive. Really impressive.
Is this a proven # 30 hp?
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Originally Posted by dodger63
Is this a proven # 30 hp?
Not sure, but I found this: http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/21...-gain?p=193049

Apparently the guy replaced primary 600 CEL cats with 200 HF cats and secondary cat delete. The dyno shows 25HP gain.

Essentially I have the exact same thing but in reverse, primary cat delete, but secondary 200 CEL are in place. My vbox shows: 0-60 @ 4.1, 0-100 @ 9s, and 60-130 @10.3s.

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That's huge.. I'm wondering cause malleus did all that work pulley tune headers cat delete airbox.. And he says he got 50 total. Obviously it was different days but still.. Are those row box's the same moded ttm ones or did you switch those back out.. Nice run vs jon by the way he keeps falling down I love it.. I'd love to see you all at a track rental one day it would be fun...


Originally Posted by AlbertM
Not sure, but I found this: http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/21...-gain?p=193049

Apparently the guy replaced primary 600 CEL cats with 200 HF cats and secondary cat delete.

Essentially I have the exact same thing but in reverse, primary cat delete, but secondary 200 CEL are in place. My vbox shows: 0-60 @ 4.1, 0-100 @ 9s, and 60-130 @10.3s.

The dyno shows 25HP gain.
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Originally Posted by AlbertM
Not sure, but I found this: http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/21...-gain?p=193049

Apparently the guy replaced primary 600 CEL cats with 200 HF cats and secondary cat delete. The dyno shows 25HP gain.

Essentially I have the exact same thing but in reverse, primary cat delete, but secondary 200 CEL are in place. My vbox shows: 0-60 @ 4.1, 0-100 @ 9s, and 60-130 @10.3s.
Your cats were the real bottleneck.
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Is that the road by Jones Beach or something? God I miss living in NY.
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Originally Posted by dodger63
That's huge.. I'm wondering cause malleus did all that work pulley tune headers cat delete airbox.. And he says he got 50 total. Obviously it was different days but still.. Are those row box's the same moded ttm ones or did you switch those back out.. Nice run vs jon by the way he keeps falling down I love it.. I'd love to see you all at a track rental one day it would be fun...
Mike, I would love to go, but is tough during the week, and family on the weekends. The air boxes are EU spec stock 63 air boxes with a larger opening not the ones modded by TTM. I still have TTM airboxes and might want to switch and compare. I am assuming they will perform similarly.
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Is that the road by Jones Beach or something? God I miss living in NY.
Roads are in Mexico, Jon and I had to take sometime off and drive out there for some fun.
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Just throwing it out there for all you dyno boys... As I watch this video in the first before there are only 2 low fans.. In the second part they add a fan and also lift the other fan so it blows air into the intake,.,..



Originally Posted by AlbertM
Not sure, but I found this: http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/21...-gain?p=193049

Apparently the guy replaced primary 600 CEL cats with 200 HF cats and secondary cat delete. The dyno shows 25HP gain.

Essentially I have the exact same thing but in reverse, primary cat delete, but secondary 200 CEL are in place. My vbox shows: 0-60 @ 4.1, 0-100 @ 9s, and 60-130 @10.3s.


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