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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 08:14 PM
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Rear diffuser and downforce

Has anyone been able to find real data from wind tunnel testing or from their own real world experience on the improvements in downforce created or reduction in lift of the various diffuser designs out there for the C63? I currently have the Euroteck unit, but still feel that the rear end of the car gets light at 160 - 170 and above. Does the Vorsteiner design offer better high speed stability from reduced lift?

Any thoughts or comments from those who have experimented with different units or have access to wind tunnel testing that may have been performed by the various manufacturers would be appreciated.
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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the diffusers for our cars are only for looks, I think... the car need to be low enough(less than 5cm) to have any real ground effect
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As far as I know, there is no diffuser out there for the C63 or most other Mercedes that actually is a true functional diffuser. Most diffusers do not create down force, unless it is a true racing diffuser with some sort of wing built into it. Mostly even functional ones only increase high speed stability, and can reduce rear end lift a little bit, but to actually create down force is another thing. If you are truly looking for down force, a large rear wing would help a ton, but then again for the road, it would be quite out of place, a track car, yes, but the wing for you to actually feel down force would sadly make it look like a ricer!
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 05:40 PM
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The diffuser isnt going to do much for down force.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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you want downforce? get this...

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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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you want downforce? get this...

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That would really help with down force.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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there is NO "diffuser" on the market for the C63 that provides any downforce whatsoever. In fact, they shouldn't even be referred to as a "diffuser" because it's nothing more than a cosmetic body piece. In fact, due to its design it most likely reduces downforce as it helps reduce drag. If you want more downforce, get a bigger decklid lip like the one Evosport sells for the CLK Black Series.
But be careful...increasing downforce in the rear must be combined with additional downforce up front or else your gonna get some SUPER funky handling above 150mph.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 06:57 PM
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there is NO "diffuser" on the market for the C63 that provides any downforce whatsoever. In fact, they shouldn't even be referred to as a "diffuser" because it's nothing more than a cosmetic body piece. In fact, due to its design it most likely reduces downforce as it helps reduce drag. If you want more downforce, get a bigger decklid lip like the one Evosport sells for the CLK Black Series.
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Originally Posted by BlackC230Coupe
As far as I know, there is no diffuser out there for the C63 or most other Mercedes that actually is a true functional diffuser. Most diffusers do not create down force, unless it is a true racing diffuser with some sort of wing built into it. Mostly even functional ones only increase high speed stability, and can reduce rear end lift a little bit, but to actually create down force is another thing. If you are truly looking for down force, a large rear wing would help a ton, but then again for the road, it would be quite out of place, a track car, yes, but the wing for you to actually feel down force would sadly make it look like a ricer!
Neal your sig is really distracting.
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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Thanks for all the input. I may try a decklid spoiler upgrade like the BOCA Design or the Vorsteiner.

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Neal your sig is really distracting.
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sorry guys....i'll change my sig ASAP....

























j/k!
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Neal your sig is really distracting.
You know you'd like to test the downforce on that
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You know you'd like to test the downforce on that
wouldn't we all....
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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wouldn't we all....

I wouldn't wanna test just the down force...i wanna test all the forces
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Originally Posted by BlackC230Coupe
sorry guys....i'll change my sig ASAP....

























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change it to a bigger version!!!!!!!!!
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change it to a bigger version!!!!!!!!!
you mean something like this??

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you mean something like this??
God dang it Neal..... not again

You did this to us a couple of years back...

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God dang it Neal..... not again

You did this to us a couple of years back...
There you are Mo! Glad I could make you chime in!
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There you are Mo! Glad I could make you chime in!
Now you need to post all the high res pictures from that photo-shoot.... yes, again
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Now you need to post all the high res pictures from that photo-shoot.... yes, again
That would make me a thread jacker, and no one likes a thread jacker do they?

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Neal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dude e-mail me these pics!! fap fap fap.
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Neal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dude e-mail me these pics!! fap fap fap.
hahaha! honestly, the 2 I posted are the best ones, I don't have the Hustler versions YET!
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hahaha! honestly, the 2 I posted are the best ones, I don't have the Hustler versions YET!
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