***** NEW C63 NA Record - 01/06/2011 *****
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As hhughes mentioned earlier, the only times you see traps go up with a bad 60' is if you spin at the launch. Spinning slightly increases the perceived distance until the trap readings are measured (I think), since you'll squeeze in more tire revolutions than if you didn't slip. It also slightly increases the amount of time the vehicle has to build speed.
In theory, your best trap should result from having the maximum possible average accelleration (g force) for the entire duration of the 1/4 mile distance. This very well could coincide with achieving your best 60' out of the hole - no reason for them to be mutually exclusive. Many racers on various platforms have achieved their best traps and best 60's on the same run. Things like better DA, more hp/tq, less weight, optimized gearing, optimized tire pressures, etc. - all can translate to better 60's with higher corresponding trap speeds.
In theory, your best trap should result from having the maximum possible average accelleration (g force) for the entire duration of the 1/4 mile distance. This very well could coincide with achieving your best 60' out of the hole - no reason for them to be mutually exclusive. Many racers on various platforms have achieved their best traps and best 60's on the same run. Things like better DA, more hp/tq, less weight, optimized gearing, optimized tire pressures, etc. - all can translate to better 60's with higher corresponding trap speeds.
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Correct me if im wrong! i asked this question when he broke his previous record (fastest N/A NO Nitrous) Curious once again..........is there a way for a car that is being sprayed 100-125 shot to make 30 passes in a day most of them hotlapping without blowing up? have never witnessed that
maybe someone can clarify this..after being out there with this guy once again there is no doubt in mind this car has no sneaky pete in there
You guys are seating home happy about dyno #'s and street races you might have had while these guys are doing everything possible not only to make these events possible but to modify their setup for their next track day..then the same envious remarks start poping up!!
His new drag radials alone help his MPH..
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You guys are seating home happy about dyno #'s and street races you might have had while these guys are doing everything possible not only to make these events possible but to modify their setup for their next track day..then the same envious remarks start poping up!!
His new drag radials alone help his MPH..
#255
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Are you gonna post your slips? I believe you said yo were going to post them once a 63 runs 10.8's Mike did it. It would help to compare timeslips against Mikes so there wont be as many doubters
#256
Any update on why this car runs 6 MPH faster than every other C63 with similar mods?
I am not experienced with the C63 but I drag race a 4-door V8 sedan alot and have been following what the C63's get stock and modded. Also the physics of NA V8, rear-wheel drive, automatic transmission cars should be roughly the same in the 1/4 mile.
I've got my car down to 3750 lbs with me and have about 480rwhp with extensive modifications (cam, head porting, longtubes, 93mm TB, etc, tuning, etc) but have only hit 124MPH in -1900' DA.
Dodger's car must make ridiculous horsepower with just a tune and longtubes, like 720!!!
I just ran the calculator on this page:
http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php
Inputing 131MPH and 3900 lbs (ballpark guess on weight w/ driver) and I came up with 720 HP!!! That is a big difference from 451 with a tune, intake, longtubes and bolt ons.
I am not experienced with the C63 but I drag race a 4-door V8 sedan alot and have been following what the C63's get stock and modded. Also the physics of NA V8, rear-wheel drive, automatic transmission cars should be roughly the same in the 1/4 mile.
I've got my car down to 3750 lbs with me and have about 480rwhp with extensive modifications (cam, head porting, longtubes, 93mm TB, etc, tuning, etc) but have only hit 124MPH in -1900' DA.
Dodger's car must make ridiculous horsepower with just a tune and longtubes, like 720!!!
I just ran the calculator on this page:
http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php
Inputing 131MPH and 3900 lbs (ballpark guess on weight w/ driver) and I came up with 720 HP!!! That is a big difference from 451 with a tune, intake, longtubes and bolt ons.
Last edited by budoboy; 01-16-2011 at 11:01 AM.
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budoboy the charger is probably more aerodynamically challenged then the c63 that can be one option and the wallace calculator--take it with a grain of salt.
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Any update on why this car runs 6 MPH faster than every other C63 with similar mods?
I am not experienced with the C63 but I drag race a 4-door V8 sedan alot and have been following what the C63's get stock and modded. Also the physics of NA V8, rear-wheel drive, automatic transmission cars should be roughly the same in the 1/4 mile.
I've got my car down to 3750 lbs with me and have about 480rwhp with extensive modifications (cam, head porting, longtubes, 93mm TB, etc, tuning, etc) but have only hit 124MPH in -1900' DA.
Dodger's car must make ridiculous horsepower with just a tune and longtubes, like 720!!!
I just ran the calculator on this page:
http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php
Inputing 131MPH and 3900 lbs (ballpark guess on weight w/ driver) and I came up with 720 HP!!! That is a big difference from 451 with a tune, intake, longtubes and bolt ons.
I am not experienced with the C63 but I drag race a 4-door V8 sedan alot and have been following what the C63's get stock and modded. Also the physics of NA V8, rear-wheel drive, automatic transmission cars should be roughly the same in the 1/4 mile.
I've got my car down to 3750 lbs with me and have about 480rwhp with extensive modifications (cam, head porting, longtubes, 93mm TB, etc, tuning, etc) but have only hit 124MPH in -1900' DA.
Dodger's car must make ridiculous horsepower with just a tune and longtubes, like 720!!!
I just ran the calculator on this page:
http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php
Inputing 131MPH and 3900 lbs (ballpark guess on weight w/ driver) and I came up with 720 HP!!! That is a big difference from 451 with a tune, intake, longtubes and bolt ons.
Since were asking... I see you ran a faster time than any 2007 SRT8 on drag times. Do you currently hold the record? I also see you posted a 1.45 60'.
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#259
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Any update on why this car runs 6 MPH faster than every other C63 with similar mods?
I am not experienced with the C63 but I drag race a 4-door V8 sedan alot and have been following what the C63's get stock and modded. Also the physics of NA V8, rear-wheel drive, automatic transmission cars should be roughly the same in the 1/4 mile.
I've got my car down to 3750 lbs with me and have about 480rwhp with extensive modifications (cam, head porting,longtubes, 93mm TB, etc, tuning, etc) but have only hit 124MPH in -1900' DA.
Dodger's car must make ridiculous horsepower with just a tune and longtubes, like 720!!!
I just ran the calculator on this page:
http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php
Inputing 131MPH and 3900 lbs (ballpark guess on weight w/ driver) and I came up with 720 HP!!! That is a big difference from 451 with a tune, intake, longtubes and bolt ons.
I am not experienced with the C63 but I drag race a 4-door V8 sedan alot and have been following what the C63's get stock and modded. Also the physics of NA V8, rear-wheel drive, automatic transmission cars should be roughly the same in the 1/4 mile.
I've got my car down to 3750 lbs with me and have about 480rwhp with extensive modifications (cam, head porting,longtubes, 93mm TB, etc, tuning, etc) but have only hit 124MPH in -1900' DA.
Dodger's car must make ridiculous horsepower with just a tune and longtubes, like 720!!!
I just ran the calculator on this page:
http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php
Inputing 131MPH and 3900 lbs (ballpark guess on weight w/ driver) and I came up with 720 HP!!! That is a big difference from 451 with a tune, intake, longtubes and bolt ons.
Also that day everyone that broke records ran 2-3 MPH higher then usual.
2. He has a more advanced tune then most of us
3. His car weight is a lil over 3600
4. His a great driver
5. With my cals from that site it's 680 horse that to the wheels is about 545rw by 20% drivetrain loss so that's about rite.
Last edited by mthis; 01-16-2011 at 01:00 PM.
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Thank you! Mthis & I could prob help you get your mph up If you would like. Killer 60' congrats
Any update on why this car runs 6 MPH faster than every other C63 with similar mods?
I am not experienced with the C63 but I drag race a 4-door V8 sedan alot and have been following what the C63's get stock and modded. Also the physics of NA V8, rear-wheel drive, automatic transmission cars should be roughly the same in the 1/4 mile.
I've got my car down to 3750 lbs with me and have about 480rwhp with extensive modifications (cam, head porting, longtubes, 93mm TB, etc, tuning, etc) but have only hit 124MPH in -1900' DA.
Dodger's car must make ridiculous horsepower with just a tune and longtubes, like 720!!!
I just ran the calculator on this page:
http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php
Inputing 131MPH and 3900 lbs (ballpark guess on weight w/ driver) and I came up with 720 HP!!! That is a big difference from 451 with a tune, intake, longtubes and bolt ons.
I am not experienced with the C63 but I drag race a 4-door V8 sedan alot and have been following what the C63's get stock and modded. Also the physics of NA V8, rear-wheel drive, automatic transmission cars should be roughly the same in the 1/4 mile.
I've got my car down to 3750 lbs with me and have about 480rwhp with extensive modifications (cam, head porting, longtubes, 93mm TB, etc, tuning, etc) but have only hit 124MPH in -1900' DA.
Dodger's car must make ridiculous horsepower with just a tune and longtubes, like 720!!!
I just ran the calculator on this page:
http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php
Inputing 131MPH and 3900 lbs (ballpark guess on weight w/ driver) and I came up with 720 HP!!! That is a big difference from 451 with a tune, intake, longtubes and bolt ons.
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Sure I'll take any help. I guess we are about 3000 miles away so it will have to be moral support :-)
A small bit of advice from me is get a higher stall converter (if available) and you'll drop your 60' times and be in the mid 10s
A small bit of advice from me is get a higher stall converter (if available) and you'll drop your 60' times and be in the mid 10s
Last edited by budoboy; 01-16-2011 at 03:01 PM.
#265
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From all the testing that has gone on with higher stalls. At this point they aren't making sense. I've resurched that option..
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My estimate is I droped 230-250lbs off the car. (so far haha)
Last edited by dodger63; 01-16-2011 at 03:45 PM.