***** NEW C63 NA Record - 01/06/2011 *****
Please show me in this thread where I have been argumentative, condescending, and downright abrasive to anyone who disagrees with me.
The funny thing about a debate is both parties usually have opposing arguments. I don't know how you debate but from what Ive learned its usually argumentative.
I enjoy MBW for that very reason. I'm not here to blow smoke up peoples orifices. I enjoy a good clean intelligent debate. I rarely resort to personal insults or grammatical corrections and I give my opinion and like it or not and in most cases unsolicited.
Again, I'm not here for a popularity contest. If you like me, Great! If not, I'm sorry to anyone I offend in the process. I'm not here however to be a controversial troll who stirs the pot just for kicks. This is me, the forum me, I'm sorry you or anyone else who doesn't like me. I wont lose any sleep over it though, trust me.
Abrasive? Yes, maybe. I'm from NY. We tend to come across that way.
I can tell you this Mr C32. I don't have this problem in person and no one comes at me like they do on this anonymous forum. I don't think my personality differs much however in person. I can be a bit sarcastic. I also tell it like it is and I can also be opinionated if I am even slightly educated on the subject being discussed.
I have many friends however and I don't think anyone (maybe Jon) has ever had a problem with me in person from this forum. Again, not to my face.
Humility however might be one of my flaws. I'm working on it. I tend to stick to my guns against adversity even when out-manned and sometimes stubbornly refuse to see another option in the process. Again, I am working on it. No one is perfect.
Any other insight on this discussion Mr. Innocently passing by not stirring the pot at all? Anything constructive at all to add to this thread? Maybe you would like to introduce us all to another pot that would like to call a kettle black?
The only thing I have seen you do in this thread is respond directly to me. Obviously you have a problem with me directly. Did I insult you 500 posts ago and this is your moment to pounce? Get over it, I don't remember you so obviously it wasn't anything personal.
Have a good night.

Best thing Ive heard all night. You have diarrhea of the mouth and I shut you up. (See Sig) YOU were the victim?? No wonder hes all over me, he must be one of your boys. (The C32 guy)
Last edited by propain; Jan 7, 2011 at 09:54 PM.
What are your thoughts between the tuned are you happy with Mhp. I havnt seen any comp post or Anything?
Please show me in this thread where I have been argumentative, condescending, and downright abrasive to anyone who disagrees with me.
The funny thing about a debate is both parties usually have opposing arguments. I don't know how you debate but from what Ive learned its usually argumentative.
I enjoy MBW for that very reason. I'm not here to blow smoke up peoples orifices. I enjoy a good clean intelligent debate. I rarely resort to personal insults or grammatical corrections and I give my opinion and like it or not and in most cases unsolicited.
Again, I'm not here for a popularity contest. If you like me, Great! If not, I'm sorry to anyone I offend in the process. I'm not here however to be a controversial troll who stirs the pot just for kicks. This is me, the forum me, I'm sorry you or anyone else who doesn't like me. I wont lose any sleep over it though, trust me.
Abrasive? Yes, maybe. I'm from NY. We tend to come across that way.
I can tell you this Mr C32. I don't have this problem in person and no one comes at me like they do on this anonymous forum. I don't think my personality differs much however in person. I can be a bit sarcastic. I also tell it like it is and I can also be opinionated if I am even slightly educated on the subject being discussed.
I have many friends however and I don't think anyone (maybe Jon) has ever had a problem with me in person from this forum. Again, not to my face.
Humility however might be one of my flaws. I'm working on it. I tend to stick to my guns against adversity even when out-manned and sometimes stubbornly refuse to see another option in the process. Again, I am working on it. No one is perfect.
Any other insight on this discussion Mr. Innocently passing by not stirring the pot at all? Anything constructive at all to add to this thread? Maybe you would like to introduce us all to another pot that would like to call a kettle black?
The only thing I have seen you do in this thread is respond directly to me. Obviously you have a problem with me directly. Did I insult you 500 posts ago and this is your moment to pounce? Get over it, I don't remember you so obviously it wasn't anything personal.
Have a good night.

No worries - perception isn't always reality. Besides, like any large collection of personalities, you get some exemplary individuals, some "Grade A" douchebags, and everything in between. Just goes with the territory.
No worries - perception isn't always reality. Besides, like any large collection of personalities, you get some exemplary individuals, some "Grade A" douchebags, and everything in between. Just goes with the territory.
The C32 guy doesn't know Jon, nor you, from Adam. Not losing sleep here either.


You are fortunate however to not know Jon if you think Im bad or a "Grade A douche" You have no idea...

Enough poo poo from me on Dodgers thread. I felt I needed to address this with you though but I'm really trying to be done with this thread now... I guess walking away is another flaw of mine..
The Best of Mercedes & AMG


No worries - perception isn't always reality. Besides, like any large collection of personalities, you get some exemplary individuals, some "Grade A" douchebags, and everything in between. Just goes with the territory.
The C32 guy doesn't know Jon, nor you, from Adam. Not losing sleep here either.

What are your thoughts between the tuned are you happy with Mhp. I havnt seen any comp post or Anything?

I haven't had much time to really evaluate the new tune. The car "feels" much more responsive but you know me; I like data. Our tracks don't open until March/April.
I mean, it's clear that the C63 was engineered to be a beast on the 1/4 mile track.
But, I wonder if AMG ever achieved these amazing results when they tested this car.
Just a little fun speculation here, but I kinda think AMG built a couple C63's with some nice LT's and a more aggressive tune just to see what the engine could do.
Even if they did do that, I highly doubt they saw 131+ mph traps.
To the drivers who push our platform as far as you do, thank you! You make us all proud.
Here is a quote from a AMG/HWA engineer I talked with - "if most of these owners would focus on tires/transmission mods/launch technic then this would improve their times. Produce all the HP you want...the TCU will just dump it"
Sonny - trust me when I say that if AMG, more specifically HWA wanted to focus on 1/4 mile times, I am sure they could beat these times. They have simply let this aspect of the market go to the after-market guys. There is simply not enough market demands to justify the investment to give them the ROI. If there is money there, then they will go after the market. This is why the new ECU will be enrcypt'd - this way they can get $ from ECU mods themselves vs. letting all the aftermarket gusy get the $. Look at the economics - they can charge $3K for tune as option and yet the cost of goods is zero - pure margin. This has their interest. There simply not enough profit in 1/4 mile mods to justify the investment.
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I haven't had much time to really evaluate the new tune. The car "feels" much more responsive but you know me; I like data. Our tracks don't open until March/April.
On another note, add me to the list of those who think this is par for the course for propain. You come onto every thread as a contrarian, looking to start trouble in a passive aggressive way, stating something you know will be offensive to rile the crowd up because its off the wall, then back into a "im just saying" type attitude, before you go back off on your arguments to get under peoples' skin.
The masses obviously have spoken here, no one appreciates it. C32-amg said it best - all of us are saying the same thing. We're not all wrong bud...
On another note, add me to the list of those who think this is par for the course for propain. You come onto every thread as a contrarian, looking to start trouble in a passive aggressive way, stating something you know will be offensive to rile the crowd up because its off the wall, then back into a "im just saying" type attitude, before you go back off on your arguments to get under peoples' skin.
The masses obviously have spoken here, no one appreciates it. C32-amg said it best - all of us are saying the same thing. We're not all wrong bud...

You? 1 thread that made you mad at me because I proved you wrong above leasing the C63. You are one of those guys who think your just smarter than everyone else throwing in peoples faces that the deprecation will be in the toilet and how the C63 will be worth crap in a few years. You always like to top it off with the "Ohh I leased mine because im smarter than the rest of you" Look in the mirror buddy. Just an FYI I dont take being a contrarian as an insult.
https://mbworld.org/forums/3952247-post16.html
I think its cute however how this thread is being used as a "I don't like ProPain either" soap box. Another sheep who thinks "This is my moment to get back at him" Go run along with the flock Rory. You definitely are one of the people who I don't like and really don't care to improve that relationship at all.
and yes.. C32 did say it best "No worries - perception isn't always reality. Besides, like any large collection of personalities, you get some exemplary individuals, some "Grade A" douchebags, and everything in between. Just goes with the territory."
Last edited by propain; Jan 8, 2011 at 10:31 AM.

See? That's the kind of common ground that we can work with. Let's build on that. I feel like Slick *****... sans intern fellation.

Dodger - sorry for the OT crapfest in your thread. Unbelieveable results, sir... keep at it.

See? That's the kind of common ground that we can work with. Let's build on that. I feel like Slick *****... sans intern fellation.

Dodger - sorry for the OT crapfest in your thread. Unbelieveable results, sir... keep at it.

I haven't had much time to really evaluate the new tune. The car "feels" much more responsive but you know me; I like data. Our tracks don't open until March/April.
Super if I get "my goal". Would you be kind enough to do the write up for me as you are prob in my opinion one of the best writers on here?
Super if I get "my goal". Would you be kind enough to do the write up for me as you are prob in my opinion one of the best writers on here?

There. I did it. The cat's out of the bag.








