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Old 01-10-2011, 01:08 PM
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As hhughes mentioned earlier, the only times you see traps go up with a bad 60' is if you spin at the launch. Spinning slightly increases the perceived distance until the trap readings are measured (I think), since you'll squeeze in more tire revolutions than if you didn't slip. It also slightly increases the amount of time the vehicle has to build speed.

In theory, your best trap should result from having the maximum possible average accelleration (g force) for the entire duration of the 1/4 mile distance. This very well could coincide with achieving your best 60' out of the hole - no reason for them to be mutually exclusive. Many racers on various platforms have achieved their best traps and best 60's on the same run. Things like better DA, more hp/tq, less weight, optimized gearing, optimized tire pressures, etc. - all can translate to better 60's with higher corresponding trap speeds.
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Originally Posted by LOCO 05' E55
Correct me if im wrong! i asked this question when he broke his previous record (fastest N/A NO Nitrous) Curious once again..........is there a way for a car that is being sprayed 100-125 shot to make 30 passes in a day most of them hotlapping without blowing up? have never witnessed that maybe someone can clarify this..after being out there with this guy once again there is no doubt in mind this car has no sneaky pete in there

You guys are seating home happy about dyno #'s and street races you might have had while these guys are doing everything possible not only to make these events possible but to modify their setup for their next track day..then the same envious remarks start poping up!!

His new drag radials alone help his MPH..
You can spray a 100 shot on these motors all day long with no worries. I've put down 20 plus passes in an afternoon using up nearly 2 full 20 pound bottles, a 100 shot is not going to blow one of these motors if it's set up properly.
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I was able to sneak a picture of Mike's engine. This may explain the 10 sec 1/4 mile times...
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Old 01-10-2011, 05:41 PM
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I was able to sneak a picture of Mike's engine. This may explain the 10 sec 1/4 mile times...
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You can spray a 100 shot on these motors all day long with no worries. I've put down 20 plus passes in an afternoon using up nearly 2 full 20 pound bottles, a 100 shot is not going to blow one of these motors if it's set up properly.
Are you gonna post your slips? I believe you said yo were going to post them once a 63 runs 10.8's Mike did it. It would help to compare timeslips against Mikes so there wont be as many doubters
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Any update on why this car runs 6 MPH faster than every other C63 with similar mods?

I am not experienced with the C63 but I drag race a 4-door V8 sedan alot and have been following what the C63's get stock and modded. Also the physics of NA V8, rear-wheel drive, automatic transmission cars should be roughly the same in the 1/4 mile.

I've got my car down to 3750 lbs with me and have about 480rwhp with extensive modifications (cam, head porting, longtubes, 93mm TB, etc, tuning, etc) but have only hit 124MPH in -1900' DA.

Dodger's car must make ridiculous horsepower with just a tune and longtubes, like 720!!!

I just ran the calculator on this page:

http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php
Inputing 131MPH and 3900 lbs (ballpark guess on weight w/ driver) and I came up with 720 HP!!! That is a big difference from 451 with a tune, intake, longtubes and bolt ons.

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budoboy the charger is probably more aerodynamically challenged then the c63 that can be one option and the wallace calculator--take it with a grain of salt.
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Originally Posted by budoboy
Any update on why this car runs 6 MPH faster than every other C63 with similar mods?

I am not experienced with the C63 but I drag race a 4-door V8 sedan alot and have been following what the C63's get stock and modded. Also the physics of NA V8, rear-wheel drive, automatic transmission cars should be roughly the same in the 1/4 mile.

I've got my car down to 3750 lbs with me and have about 480rwhp with extensive modifications (cam, head porting, longtubes, 93mm TB, etc, tuning, etc) but have only hit 124MPH in -1900' DA.

Dodger's car must make ridiculous horsepower with just a tune and longtubes, like 720!!!

I just ran the calculator on this page:

http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php
Inputing 131MPH and 3900 lbs (ballpark guess on weight w/ driver) and I came up with 720 HP!!! That is a big difference from 451 with a tune, intake, longtubes and bolt ons.
More like 650...

Since were asking... I see you ran a faster time than any 2007 SRT8 on drag times. Do you currently hold the record? I also see you posted a 1.45 60'. Id like to see the slip with that. 1.45 60' in a 2007 charger is crazy...
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Originally Posted by budoboy
Any update on why this car runs 6 MPH faster than every other C63 with similar mods?

I am not experienced with the C63 but I drag race a 4-door V8 sedan alot and have been following what the C63's get stock and modded. Also the physics of NA V8, rear-wheel drive, automatic transmission cars should be roughly the same in the 1/4 mile.

I've got my car down to 3750 lbs with me and have about 480rwhp with extensive modifications (cam, head porting,longtubes, 93mm TB, etc, tuning, etc) but have only hit 124MPH in -1900' DA.

Dodger's car must make ridiculous horsepower with just a tune and longtubes, like 720!!!


I just ran the calculator on this page:

http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php
Inputing 131MPH and 3900 lbs (ballpark guess on weight w/ driver) and I came up with 720 HP!!! That is a big difference from 451 with a tune, intake, longtubes and bolt ons.
1. That day he trapped 131 he was also trappig 127 before that someday.
Also that day everyone that broke records ran 2-3 MPH higher then usual.
2. He has a more advanced tune then most of us
3. His car weight is a lil over 3600
4. His a great driver
5. With my cals from that site it's 680 horse that to the wheels is about 545rw by 20% drivetrain loss so that's about rite.

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Thank you! Mthis & I could prob help you get your mph up If you would like. Killer 60' congrats



Originally Posted by budoboy
Any update on why this car runs 6 MPH faster than every other C63 with similar mods?

I am not experienced with the C63 but I drag race a 4-door V8 sedan alot and have been following what the C63's get stock and modded. Also the physics of NA V8, rear-wheel drive, automatic transmission cars should be roughly the same in the 1/4 mile.

I've got my car down to 3750 lbs with me and have about 480rwhp with extensive modifications (cam, head porting, longtubes, 93mm TB, etc, tuning, etc) but have only hit 124MPH in -1900' DA.

Dodger's car must make ridiculous horsepower with just a tune and longtubes, like 720!!!

I just ran the calculator on this page:

http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php
Inputing 131MPH and 3900 lbs (ballpark guess on weight w/ driver) and I came up with 720 HP!!! That is a big difference from 451 with a tune, intake, longtubes and bolt ons.
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Mike,which 100 octane fuel are you running?
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Thanks for the measured replies. I was hoping to keep it civil.

692HP if you use 3600+150 for driver and 131 MPH

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Originally Posted by budoboy
Thanks for the measured replies. I was hoping to keep it civil
Just offering my help if you would like?
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Originally Posted by dodger63
Just offering my help if you would like?
Sure I'll take any help. I guess we are about 3000 miles away so it will have to be moral support :-)

A small bit of advice from me is get a higher stall converter (if available) and you'll drop your 60' times and be in the mid 10s

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Originally Posted by budoboy
Sure I'll take any help. Just don't know where you are (I'm in Northern California) or what help you can offer.

I can also help you with your launch (get a higher stall converter).
From all the testing that has gone on with higher stalls. At this point they aren't making sense. I've resurched that option..
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3. His car weight is a lil over 3600.
That's an impressive diet.

Originally Posted by budoboy
Thanks for the measured replies. I was hoping to keep it civil.

692HP if you use 3600+150 for driver and 131 MPH
IIRC, Mike weighs over 225lbs.
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Originally Posted by budoboy
Sure I'll take any help. I guess we are about 3000 miles away so it will have to be moral support :-)

A small bit of advice from me is get a higher stall converter (if available) and you'll drop your 60' times and be in the mid 10s
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That's an impressive diet.



IIRC, Mike weighs over 225lbs.
I do not have an official weight of my car., I really doubt it's that light once I get it back together i will give u a car weight before any of the diet it was 4125 with me in it.. Also do to some over eating I've gained about 7lbs so..

My estimate is I droped 230-250lbs off the car. (so far haha)

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