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No worries Mike, we are going to hook you up when you finish all your go fast mods. Do you want 18" or 19"?
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I was there. There is no nitrous on this car. I am still amazed! This goes to show that hard work and determination pays off. I'm just glad we didn't have 2 lanes cuz he would have probably smoked me
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Also, keep in mind that we had ~ -1000ft D/A all day. I also saw similar MPH gains with my car. The track was very fast yesterday.
Congrats again Mike.
Hagi, where's the damn videos of my car!
Congrats again Mike.
Hagi, where's the damn videos of my car!
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Hahaha no videos for u lol. I was using Loco's camera He has to upload them.
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Cmon guys we're all friends here right? I took Propain's comments as no disrespect intended. Increasing trap speed by 4 mph is huge and the fact is none of us really know how all the variables affect this car and motor in quantitative results. The guys that are racing regularly are providing a wealth of information that everyone benefits from. If an Olympic world record was ever shattered to the degree that Mike's run did, the entire world would wonder how it was possible. If it was just atmospheric conditions, cutting back on the Lasagna ,track prep, Andy tweaking the tune files who knows? The fun part is debating everything after the fact. That's Racing!!!
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Cmon guys we're all friends here right? I took Propain's comments as no disrespect intended. Increasing trap speed by 4 mph is huge and the fact is none of us really know how all the variables affect this car and motor in quantitative results. The guys that are racing regularly are providing a wealth of information that everyone benefits from. If an Olympic world record was ever shattered to the degree that Mike's run did, the entire world would wonder how it was possible. If it was just atmospheric conditions, cutting back on the Lasagna ,track prep, Andy tweaking the tune files who knows? The fun part is debating everything after the fact. That's Racing!!!
mikes car trapped from 127-131 yesterday and went from 11.1 -10.8.
the quicker his car goes the faster as well lower ET higher MPH
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Now I remember why I don't post here much anymore...
I think a person with even small amount of intelligence would question if you did anything else since your last run and even have some doubts after you said you didn't. If you didn't, awesome, you have a real fast car. If you did, again, who cares, this is about modding and going faster.
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works for sure but you guys have to send him some new screws bc they all fell out!!
does lil screws can cause damage if they rip thru filters, you guys should look into a new way to attach the parts instead of the screws
sry to drop this like this just trying to help both sides from a disaster
does lil screws can cause damage if they rip thru filters, you guys should look into a new way to attach the parts instead of the screws
sry to drop this like this just trying to help both sides from a disaster
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Cmon guys we're all friends here right? I took Propain's comments as no disrespect intended. Increasing trap speed by 4 mph is huge and the fact is none of us really know how all the variables affect this car and motor in quantitative results. The guys that are racing regularly are providing a wealth of information that everyone benefits from. If an Olympic world record was ever shattered to the degree that Mike's run did, the entire world would wonder how it was possible. If it was just atmospheric conditions, cutting back on the Lasagna ,track prep, Andy tweaking the tune files who knows? The fun part is debating everything after the fact. That's Racing!!!
No disrespect at all, just asking... The mob mentality on this forum when it comes to questioning times is ridiculous.
Was the intake done after ATCO and before this run?
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I think one of the major advantages that Mike has is that he uses the track to tune his car, something that many people don't do anymore. Most people just go to the dyno and look for some new number and either walk away happy or disappointed.
It's very hard to see these gains after tuning your car on the dyno. The horsepower you guys get on the dyno usually gets left at the dyno shop when you go to the track because the car doesn't perform at the drag strip. The guy that goes to the drag strip and sets the car up to go fast and quick at the track may be disappointed with the numbers that they see if they put their car on a dyno, it's just the way it is. I remember when I was racing you would hear about new cars coming out that just put down 1500HP (10 years ago), and you would be thinking how this guy is gonna kick my *** but they would get to the track and do nothing, where was all that horsepower that they had on the dyno? I can't even begin to tell you how many cars this happened with. It got to the point where I stopped paying attention to those numbers because I realized that they meant nothing.
Mike is at a big advantage because he has gone to the track many many times and he has learned a lot, I think he has learned a lot more than even he realizes. Luckily for you guys he has no qualms about sharing what he learned with you guys but the best way to get your car to go faster is to get out there and start running it.
It's really up to you to figure out what you want. Do you want that dyno number or do you want to actually be quicker and faster? I know what I would rather have.
It's very hard to see these gains after tuning your car on the dyno. The horsepower you guys get on the dyno usually gets left at the dyno shop when you go to the track because the car doesn't perform at the drag strip. The guy that goes to the drag strip and sets the car up to go fast and quick at the track may be disappointed with the numbers that they see if they put their car on a dyno, it's just the way it is. I remember when I was racing you would hear about new cars coming out that just put down 1500HP (10 years ago), and you would be thinking how this guy is gonna kick my *** but they would get to the track and do nothing, where was all that horsepower that they had on the dyno? I can't even begin to tell you how many cars this happened with. It got to the point where I stopped paying attention to those numbers because I realized that they meant nothing.
Mike is at a big advantage because he has gone to the track many many times and he has learned a lot, I think he has learned a lot more than even he realizes. Luckily for you guys he has no qualms about sharing what he learned with you guys but the best way to get your car to go faster is to get out there and start running it.
It's really up to you to figure out what you want. Do you want that dyno number or do you want to actually be quicker and faster? I know what I would rather have.
By the way, having the car perform better when track tuned is not (in any way) limited to MHP only. I've seen Jeremy@OE Tuning tune cars on the track and witnessed the same car go quicker/faster with a few minor changes.
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I think a person with even small amount of intelligence would question if you did anything else since your last run and even have some doubts after you said you didn't. If you didn't, awesome, you have a real fast car. If you did, again, who cares, this is about modding and going faster.
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its was used half the time, its proven to me and mike that it works.
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This is an excellent post. Track tuning cars is much more effective than dyno tuning them especially for modern cars. In modern cars, the ECU tries to react to so many different variables, some of which affect power drastically. In my opinion, this creates a scenario where good numbers on the dyno may not coincide with good numbers on the track. I've seen this countless times in person and I've been repeatedly posting it for the last couple of years.
By the way, having the car perform better when track tuned is not (in any way) limited to MHP only. I've seen Jeremy@OE Tuning tune cars on the track and witnessed the same car go quicker/faster with a few minor changes.
By the way, having the car perform better when track tuned is not (in any way) limited to MHP only. I've seen Jeremy@OE Tuning tune cars on the track and witnessed the same car go quicker/faster with a few minor changes.
Just for the record I stated the power of the car because of the trap speeds. With those traps hes gotta be making some huge power. Big question at the track is always would you rather have big trap speeds or lower 1/4 times. Most common answer I always hear is big traps because that means the car is faster. lower 1/4's means quicker...
