C63 vs, CTS-V both being 2009's which is better value?
03-10-2011, 08:01 PM
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I feel so bad for the OP who has no idea what he just stepped into - it's an honest question but it baffles me why people ask in the first place. You're bound to get more biased opinions than not (especially so on here).
So where's melmanc when you need him to tell the OP that a tuned C63 can beat a CTS-V? Or the guy who thinks the CTS-V has inferior brakes because they're not drilled OR slotted!!
So where's melmanc when you need him to tell the OP that a tuned C63 can beat a CTS-V? Or the guy who thinks the CTS-V has inferior brakes because they're not drilled OR slotted!!
03-10-2011, 08:06 PM
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jons63 your opinion here is a joke you run your mouth to much and every forum member know it.
i have personally road raced a stock cts-v with only a exhaust modification and will tell you it will blow the doors off a c63 amg at any speed, Start,Roll, 30-120 etc...
if you wanna put your money where your mouth is i have a close friend who has a stock cts-v with only a corsa exhaust as a modification that will run your tuned c63 over, im willing to bet $5000 you cant back your statement up
i love the c63 but sorry guys bottom line the car cannot compare to the cts-v. the V is better looking, has a much better interior and stock vs stock will annhilate a c63. Modded vs Modded the AMG has not one chance in hell.
i have personally road raced a stock cts-v with only a exhaust modification and will tell you it will blow the doors off a c63 amg at any speed, Start,Roll, 30-120 etc...
if you wanna put your money where your mouth is i have a close friend who has a stock cts-v with only a corsa exhaust as a modification that will run your tuned c63 over, im willing to bet $5000 you cant back your statement up
i love the c63 but sorry guys bottom line the car cannot compare to the cts-v. the V is better looking, has a much better interior and stock vs stock will annhilate a c63. Modded vs Modded the AMG has not one chance in hell.
Meaning a tune only C63 will walk a stock CTS V easily. Not sure how much exhaust work only doesnt to the CTS V but I would venture to guess it would close the gap significantly on a tuned C63.
Now on to your other comment of modded vs modded. No question the American car will destroy the C63. Not sure of the fastest CTSV but I know some that are close to mid 9's!!
It a matter how boost however and the C63 is a NA beast. It does way more with way less power than the caddy. To get the CTSV to run a 10.7 like Mike you need to be pushing over 800 crank HP.
03-10-2011, 08:19 PM
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Mod vs mod I agree. Bringing the C63 to the same crank HP as the CTS V however and the C63 destroys the stock CTS V.
Meaning a tune only C63 will walk a stock CTS V easily. Not sure how much exhaust work only doesnt to the CTS V but I would venture to guess it would close the gap significantly on a tuned C63.
Now on to your other comment of modded vs modded. No question the American car will destroy the C63. Not sure of the fastest CTSV but I know some that are close to mid 9's!!
It a matter how boost however and the C63 is a NA beast. It does way more with way less power than the caddy. To get the CTSV to run a 10.7 like Mike you need to be pushing over 800 crank HP.
Meaning a tune only C63 will walk a stock CTS V easily. Not sure how much exhaust work only doesnt to the CTS V but I would venture to guess it would close the gap significantly on a tuned C63.
Now on to your other comment of modded vs modded. No question the American car will destroy the C63. Not sure of the fastest CTSV but I know some that are close to mid 9's!!
It a matter how boost however and the C63 is a NA beast. It does way more with way less power than the caddy. To get the CTSV to run a 10.7 like Mike you need to be pushing over 800 crank HP.
03-11-2011, 04:17 AM
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Yes, any car without drilled or slotted brakes isn't a performance car at all hence this is why F1 cars have neither.
03-11-2011, 06:44 PM
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Name a sports car that doesnt use drilled and or drilled and slotted rotors? Porsche? Ferrari? Mercedes? Nissan? BMW? Lamborghini? Anything....
I really dont know why GM chose to leave them off..
The reason F1 cars don't need to be crossed or drilled though is they have that special cooling drum. I believe F1 breaks are also much smaller than a road car. Never mind that they use specialized carbon fiber discs and pads not found on a street car.
On the other hand, Ive heard of many upgrading the CTSV's rotors for track use. I think the Brembo's are nice though and good enough.
03-11-2011, 07:03 PM
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'11 C63 w/ P31
And also a stock 6spd Cts-v sedan ran a 60-130 in 9.3 seconds. My p31 ran a 9.6 and there are a couple tuned c63's that havent been able to get in the 9's. So seems there goes the theory a tuned c63 will walk a Cts-v.
03-11-2011, 07:18 PM
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Not everything happens from 60-130. 
I made 2 runs. Lol. With enough practice and the right conditions I can make 9's im sure. Unless your P31 is a freak for some reason. Lol.
Either way. Cant do another one of these ctsv threads
again. Lol.
I made 2 runs. Lol. With enough practice and the right conditions I can make 9's im sure. Unless your P31 is a freak for some reason. Lol.
Either way. Cant do another one of these ctsv threads
again. Lol.
03-11-2011, 07:27 PM
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I agree I hate "vs" threads but saw some comments.and just wanted to add some facts. Also propain u werent the only one to try. Im sure youll get better times but someone said a tuned c63 is faster than the v. So I was just showing some times. Ive seen 10sec runs from 60-130 in the v too. Just seems completely false to say a tuned c63 will walk a V
03-11-2011, 07:32 PM
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03-11-2011, 07:33 PM
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03-11-2011, 07:41 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXbGV5FHqFk
This one has 647 RWHP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8As1z...CC7837B666B91A
This one is a 700+ crank HP Hennessey.
Other than "Absolutely not true"... now its your turn.. Show me a 10.7 CTSV that isnt putting down more than 700+ Crank HP.
This one has 647 RWHP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8As1z...CC7837B666B91A
This one is a 700+ crank HP Hennessey.
Other than "Absolutely not true"... now its your turn.. Show me a 10.7 CTSV that isnt putting down more than 700+ Crank HP.
03-11-2011, 07:47 PM
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02 CLK 55 AMG,09 C63 loaded with P30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXbGV5FHqFk
This one has 647 RWHP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8As1z...CC7837B666B91A
This one is a 700+ crank HP Hennessey.
Other than "Absolutely not true"... now its your turn.. Show me a 10.7 CTSV that isnt putting down more than 700+ Crank HP.
This one has 647 RWHP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8As1z...CC7837B666B91A
This one is a 700+ crank HP Hennessey.
Other than "Absolutely not true"... now its your turn.. Show me a 10.7 CTSV that isnt putting down more than 700+ Crank HP.
03-11-2011, 07:48 PM
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03-11-2011, 07:49 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXbGV5FHqFk
This one has 647 RWHP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8As1z...CC7837B666B91A
This one is a 700+ crank HP Hennessey.
Other than "Absolutely not true"... now its your turn.. Show me a 10.7 CTSV that isnt putting down more than 700+ Crank HP.
This one has 647 RWHP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8As1z...CC7837B666B91A
This one is a 700+ crank HP Hennessey.
Other than "Absolutely not true"... now its your turn.. Show me a 10.7 CTSV that isnt putting down more than 700+ Crank HP.
Hell, a little "Atco air" would likely do the trick.
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Goes to show a ancient push rod 6.2L with tons of boost is limited.
03-11-2011, 07:54 PM
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690 crank HP... 10.7 you would be over 700 crank HP... I rest my case...
Its cool.. you got one badass caddy.. im a big fan of the CTSV... not looking to get into this... Have a good night..
03-11-2011, 07:57 PM
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I've got real world, direct results. I figured that was relevant.
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03-11-2011, 08:07 PM
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08 E63, 07 RS4, 04 GT3, 10 LR4, 02 Pajero
Like red calipers, manufactures add things that look cool to make sales, they don't always have to be functional.
