I might be OCD. But nothing I've said is illogical. What started as a normal build using basically pocket money for my personal commuter morphed into a SEMA show car. Pleasure turned to business and business has schedules. SEMA will happen with or without the car and a $50K all out performance build has changed into a $150,000 show car. New role, new rules. Perhaps I wasn't clear in explaining this to everyone involved.

Jim

 

This is literally the best thread I've seen on MBW. Not just because of the intriguing technical build, unique approach to managing relationships, and the competitive nature of a few members here, but the psychological aspect we have gotten into (the "up until 5AM" trap for example was an interesting play) is literally fascinating. Hoping an overzealous mod doesnt lock this given the twists and turns.

Really interested in seeing how this all plays out, methinks if it's at all possible, that car will be as close to meeting your expectations as it can get by COB today.

 

Not that you were obligated to, but I have not seen the transistion where this project changed from R&D to business. If Weistec and ACG were aware of the time line and the expectations then I understand your frustrations.

 

for somebody who so readily and repeatedly admits how "weird" he is, i find it strange to see how much criticism you fire at the "normal" people.

youre not dumb, but your posts paint the picture of a monstrous narcissist. i find it silly that this thread started with a description of you as a person who "wished to remain anonymous".

please just give details on the build or the part out. your thread gets boring when you start riffing about yourself and how small all the rest of us are.

 

I am trashing no one. Where am I trashing ACG or Weistec for anything except one small detail. We are sitting at week 6 in about the same place we were sitting at week 2. And I have spared everyone the behind the scenes dialogue that convinced me we would be sitting here another 2 weeks from now.

I posted not to trash the companies but to move them off the dime. Trust me, I talked to both sides in this and they were still saying the other guys were at fault. Now they are working together. What I wanted has happened.

Now the rest of you have reacted to me because you expect the usual from posters *****ing at companies about how they were screwed. I'm not one of those people. I still think highly of everyone involved except for jrcart and pert plus.

jrcart thinks he's done nothing to hurt Weistec. Weistec probably was looking forward to this car being exhibited at SEMA and CES and being in European Car. That would have helped them. That probably can't happen now.

pertplus is a bully. I don't backup often. It annoys him I didn't worship his car or him. Ok. I didn't ask for you to do it either. I complimented his car online. I think it is just right, not too far. He's done an excellent job. He hasn't done much for ACG though. To avoid running into him there I don't really see the ability to finish the car at ACG. That is going to cost them money.

While I may be weird, I have methods to my madness. Now its unlikely that the car will go to SEMA. I'll have to back out a lot of the project cost to get it back down into my budget for a daily driver or figure out another way to recoup the expense through tax offsets. That's very difficult to do as it was a marginal proposition in the first place. If I still write it off and then donate the car I can probably cover the residual. So for me, I've lost quite a bit of time and there's no financial payoff at the end. And still I'm not ticked at Weistec or ACG in the least.

Jim

 

+1

 

Peter suggested the SEMA angle. I saw it for an opportunity to help my wife's business. So, ACG has been aware of the schedule the whole time as they suggested it.

Jim

 

I don't criticize the normal people. I criticize the ones just like me. We all manifest stuff in different ways.

There is a ton of stuff you have no idea about. Its just laundry that makes no difference yet explains everything.

Ok, the thread is repaired now. Now its not about these companies, its focused on me. Job done, time to go.

Toodles.

 

Jim, you are an icon. I don't know you or hate you. I think you are in the right on many levels but again, I don't know all the details. I wish you the best and I am from San Diego so I would like to meet you sometime. You do remind me of this guy:





I would give $100 just to see a picture of you...

I hope everything works out.

 

Stay thirsty my friend!

I think the bottom line is that this thread is a month long and 11 pages deep....fix the car and getting it running the numbers and the discussion is over

Not alot to ask....but the approach is a little tiger bloodish...and we all know where that left #winning in the end

 

propain...i am never wrong, just sometimes i am given the incorrect information to make decisions!

This thread is a nice way to have a Friday laugh. So JIM (not JR) in all your experiences with buying business have you ever had a deal that took say an extra couple of weeks to close?

Grasshopper just remember...patience is a virtue.

 

I enjoyed this thread and will be enjoying it if it keeps on going. *insert popcorn gif*

 

No in fact, it wouldnt make sense for you to worship my car. I just remember the first time we met and you made several snarky comments. But that's fine.

Here's the bottom line, ACG has busted their *** on this project. Despite the litany of questionable posts, I do tip my hat to someone who has the wherewithal and the knowledge to make cars like these into true beasts. I am one of those people who only has enough money for one c63.

As for me being a bully? Um...well, let's get the facts straight. I was up until 140 am with ACG the night before getting my car ready, so when I was at SoCal Euro and some random guys started touching my car (people I obviously didnt know) it bothered me and yes I yelled at them from a far to stop touching my car and said had they asked me first, I probably would have let them. You just dont go up to a random person's car and start touching it. And these weren't little kids, they were guys with beards...granted Im 32 and still can't grow a beard, but that is besides the point. Did I overreact, probably. Am I sorry I did...a tad.

How about Jim when I came up to you and said nicely "So when are you going to start doing some performance mods..." - patting you on the back. What was your response..I could see the hairs on your neck standup...you and your friend start laughing like I just walked out of a time capsule and asked if Dwight Eisenhower was still president. Yes, I know very well how much has been put into this car and again, I give you and ACG kudos for undertaking such a project.

Here is where you and I differ. If I have an issue on the way something is being done to my car, I wait until the project is finished -- either completed or no longer being worked on --before I even think about going on a forum and discussing my thoughts on where I think it went wrong. But in my eyes, what you did was basically go to a public place and tell everyone you didn't like the progress, and thereby putting ACG's reputation in a precarious position, when at the end of the day, you could end up being extremely happy with the finished product.

Again, it is your money, and you are a grown man and can do what you want, but for all of my temper (which I admit to), I have never blasted a shop online that was working on one of my cars. I always keep that internal and give them every opportunity to fix the issue....and if I am not satisfied, I tell my friends who might be considering modding their car somewhere and more times than not I don't post about it because usually that is a sign I wasn't happy (considering I usually make a post when the project is first undertaken, so anyone that was following its progress would get a sense it didnt turn out the way I wanted to).

If you end up ending your business relationship with ACG because of me...that's sad on a lot of fronts. James, Peter, Assan and Steve have poured themselves into your car (not to mention mine as well) and it pains me to see a savvy business owner do this to small business who thrives off of word of mouth (via the internet or otherwise). Anytime I have ever had an issue with something, I always take it to James first and he has made sure its taken care of. By posting your unhappiness with the project in medias res (thank you Fr. MacDonald for 2 years of high school Latin), you haven't really given ACG a fair shake to stand by their work and say "here is the finished product" At least give them that. And while they are busting their humps trying to deliver you a beast of a car, you are on here saying "pertplus has cost them money now" and "I won't lease them a mustang dyno"...Jim, is that really fair? I ask you? And while life isnt fair, in the words of the famous Joseph Welsh, "Have you no decency sir. At long last, have you no sense of decency."

Finally, Jim, I respect that what you have done to the car. It looks great and I am sure will be something to be proud of once it hits the streets/track. But they way you have gone all about this (as one impatient person to another) has been questionable to say the least.

 

God bless the internet for my daily entertainment.

 

That link didn't work. I knew this thread would become entertaining once you are here.

When are you passing through Vegas next?

 

Its a beast...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrg6u4N5xU4

 

I just wasted 10 minutes of my life reading all the posts from the last 24 hours in this thread.
Like slowing down to see a bad wreck on the freeway, you cant NOT stop and look.

But watching this monster run the 1/4 mile made me feel much less empty inside.
So sick!

 

Don't you mean Glasshoppa?

 

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13125629157345

Try that one...sorry

 

I always imagined Pertplus to be the way described above based on his posts...the internet can be so real

 

For sure if I was still in SD I'd sit at the shop with some popcorn.
To be honest, I only have good things to say about James & Peter. When I was there it was perfect.

 

If your not going to do any 60-130 runs I at least expect your going to track the car?
Would be a shame to spend all this money and not test the waters to see what the car is capable of. But then again its your car and you can enjoy it however you like.

 

If this is your car, you better tell them to remove the CF Carlsson rep part because CF and FRP is essentially made the same; they all crack on impact.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghostchild/6009318418/

 

Same here with James and Peter.

 

I agree 100% with Propain.