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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 02:50 AM
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 02:51 AM
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Be right back. I have to do some work. If you need to get some sleep for court tomorrow, I understand. I'm always up every night till 5am.
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 02:52 AM
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this chit is hilarious...JSP = WINNING, can I buy your charger?
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 03:01 AM
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Be right back. I have to do some work. If you need to get some sleep for court tomorrow, I understand. I'm always up every night till 5am.
Up every night until 5am? That does not quite make sense but I have to admit that reading your posts is the best laugh I have had this morning.

Tell us how Rich you are again. From experience I usually find the people who tell you how much money they have, dont have anything.
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 03:05 AM
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You got me, I'm flat broke.

Please read up. I own factories in China. The Chinese work day for management is 8-8. 5am here is 8pm there.

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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 03:36 AM
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This car is about 3 business days from being sold off for parts.

I'm not kidding.

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I fool and his money are soon parted.
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 03:42 AM
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I fool and his money are soon parted.
You would think so, wouldn't you? But then again, while I may be a dick, I'm not much of a fool.

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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 04:00 AM
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You would think so, wouldn't you? But then again, while I may be a dick, I'm not much of a fool.

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I'd say you are.
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 04:39 AM
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jim , if u are through with the car, can i offer u 100 bucks, to take it off your chest...thnx
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jspAMG
You would think so, wouldn't you? But then again, while I may be a dick, I'm not much of a fool.

Jim
I truly don't think your a dick, I just think you can not properly plan which is likely a result of having money given by rich parents and not being self made.
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 08:21 AM
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Finally, the other Jim (jrcart) posts. What's up, dude? What has happened to your car since I saw it @ Fontana?
How you been? The car is running great! See video below.
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 08:39 AM
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I must say, on many fronts, this thread delivers. Kudos to all participants.

JSP, you appear to be a bit idiosyncratic, but I don't find your 'net persona to be a dick. Or Pertplus a jerk, either (again, 'net persona... don't know either of you from Adam).

This whole thing reminds me of the old axiom "quality, speed, (low) expense... choose any two." JSP clearly chooses the former two - so he's understandably upset that they're not being delivered. One question - apologies if it was already covered. When you were commencing this build at ACGSD, did they provide you with an estimate for project cost and completion date? Or was it more loosey-goosey, "get it done ASAP, budget isn't a concern, if you need to pay guys overtime, overnight hardware, etc. - that's fine, just get it done as soon as possible (not as soon as convenient - important distinction).
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jspAMG
I just received texts from both Steve at Weistec and James at ACG. The car will be done tomorrow.

jrcart, you will have some explaining to do. You've not done well for Weistec. Not at all. Besides apparently having either reading comprehension problems or a complete lack of understanding about how my problems relate indirectly to causing Weistec future support issues, you've just put me off the experience all together.

You should scoot your little butt to O'hare. Tomorrow is going to be your day. I'll be at Weistec. And the car will leave there for destinations unknown.

I'm sure all vendors involved will have nothing but good thoughts about you for your help. But true to my word, I'll post honest dyno graphs and my impression of the quality of the build. And after that, if everyone is lucky, I'll just keep quiet.

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I've not done well for Weistec??? Hmmmmm, they have used my car for R&D for the past 4 months, used images and videos of my car in their press releases and I am here defending their product and their customer service and professionalism...I bet they just hate me. Now on the. Otherhand they have you, you're like an annoying gnat, you buzz around annoying the hell out of them yet totally harmless at the same time. I don't have any reading comprehension issues, I understood your butchering of the english language just fine. You're an impatient little ***** that's acting as if they have had your car out of commision for months or years, the funny thing is that there are some peopleon this forum that have REAL tuner horror stories (me included), what you are experiencing is a little bump in the road....Like I said before, do you real want somebody to do a rush job on a project like this?

I vote for blowing your car up instead of crushing it, we can take it out to the desert and blow ot sky high, you could probably even sell tickets, I would pay $100 to watch it live.
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 09:08 AM
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You got me, I'm flat broke.

Please read up. I own factories in China. The Chinese work day for management is 8-8. 5am here is 8pm there.

Jim
Factories in China.....we call those sweat shops here in America, got any 8 year olds on the pay roll?
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
I must say, on many fronts, this thread delivers. Kudos to all participants.

JSP, you appear to be a bit idiosyncratic, but I don't find your 'net persona to be a dick. Or Pertplus a jerk, either (again, 'net persona... don't know either of you from Adam).

This whole thing reminds me of the old axiom "quality, speed, (low) expense... choose any two." JSP clearly chooses the former two - so he's understandably upset that they're not being delivered. One question - apologies if it was already covered. When you were commencing this build at ACGSD, did they provide you with an estimate for project cost and completion date? Or was it more loosey-goosey, "get it done ASAP, budget isn't a concern, if you need to pay guys overtime, overnight hardware, etc. - that's fine, just get it done as soon as possible (not as soon as convenient - important distinction).
The first interaction was quoted as taking several days, less than a week. During that first week it was decided to go with a full build with no limits to have the car shown at SEMA and CES. As far as I know ACG still feels they can do it in that time frame. I have serious doubts the work could be finished in time. As they say, this isn't my first rodeo. Doesn't matter much at this point.

I''ve always paid them up front because they have a lot of high end builds going and I never wanted them to have any issue with time because they are juggling costs from multiple builds. It dovetails nicely with me not liking to owe people money.


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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 09:29 AM
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 09:30 AM
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I've not done well for Weistec??? Hmmmmm, they have used my car for R&D for the past 4 months, used images and videos of my car in their press releases and I am here defending their product and their customer service and professionalism...I bet they just hate me. Now on the. Otherhand they have you, you're like an annoying gnat, you buzz around annoying the hell out of them yet totally harmless at the same time. I don't have any reading comprehension issues, I understood your butchering of the english language just fine. You're an impatient little ***** that's acting as if they have had your car out of commision for months or years, the funny thing is that there are some peopleon this forum that have REAL tuner horror stories (me included), what you are experiencing is a little bump in the road....Like I said before, do you real want somebody to do a rush job on a project like this?

I vote for blowing your car up instead of crushing it, we can take it out to the desert and blow ot sky high, you could probably even sell tickets, I would pay $100 to watch it live.
Yes, you have reading comprehension problems. Starting from the first take on this right through today. Going to O'hare?
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 09:30 AM
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Factories in China.....we call those sweat shops here in America, got any 8 year olds on the pay roll?
At least you're ignorant on all fronts.

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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 09:42 AM
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I truly don't think your a dick, I just think you can not properly plan which is likely a result of having money given by rich parents and not being self made.
I plan like you wouldn't believe. I'm exceptional at planning.

My parents were not wealthy at all. My father still lives in a double wide in a retirement park in Sebring because he's stubborn and won't take money. I offer it to him all the time and it makes him mad. He's proud that I have made it but refuses any help. We are an independent lot.

I'm a weird guy. I admit it. But whatever I am, I did it myself. So, I realize how hard it is to be a small businessman. Essentially I still am a small business man. I own a lot of things that make money. Each one runs on its own and gets no funding from anything else. Every store runs on its own. Every warehouse. Each of the dozens and dozens of apartment houses. Grocery stores, laundries, trucking, UPS stores, Moneytree locations, vending, ATMs, import/export, customs brokerages, landscaping and probably other ones I would have to get out the books to look at. All independent, all from scratch and acquisition.

Sorry to disappoint you all, I did it all by myself and with my wife. We live in a far smaller house than we can afford, we hire cleaning services instead of having household employees and we buy used cars because paying for depreciation is stupid.
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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Sorry to disappoint you all, I did it all by myself and with my wife. We live in a far smaller house than we can afford, we hire cleaning services instead of having household employees and we buy used cars because paying for depreciation is stupid.
Self made man, I cant respect that. Wouldnt be the first time Earl was wrong.

I think what gives people the idea of you having daddy's money or it being given to you is that you act like it. Every post has some sort of brag in it about how money is no object and whatever it takes and how you own many things ect ect. If you dont intend it as a brag then you should check how you type because its coming across that way.

If all those things are true and what you stated you owned above is as well I really dont see what a tiny little insignificant project like this would have any effect on your life. The only way I would get to the point that you are at is if I felt I was being taken for a ride and ripped off. You have said both companies are top notch and doing the right thing so just let these guys do what they have to do and get you your car back. It shouldnt matter in the least to a guy like you.

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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 09:59 AM
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Self made man, I cant respect that. Wouldnt be the first time Earl was wrong.

I think what gives people the idea of you having daddy's money or it being given to you is that you act like it. Every post has some sort of brag in it about how money is no object and whatever it takes and how you own many things ect ect. If you dont intent it as a brag then you should check how you type because its coming across that way.

If all those things are true and what you stated you owned above is as well I really dont see what a tiny little insignificant project like this would have any effect on your life. The only way I would get to the point that you are at is if I felt I was being taken for a ride and ripped off. You have said both companies are top doing the right thing so just let these guys do what they have to do and get you your car back. It shouldnt matter in the least to a guy like you.
1. If this was a normal build, I would likely agree with you
2. The car was supposed to go to SEMA and CES. Not because of the usual reasons. Mywife runs a pretty good sized aftermarket auto parts business. SEMA and CES are business tools to attract new customers, retain old ones and expense the considerable expense this car has cost. No SEMA, no benefits.
3. Most importantly I am a timetable guy. I can probably start driving for NYC right now and call and tell you when I will be there and like swallows returning to Capistrano, I'll ring your doorbell +/- 5 mins. If I'm only in the next county I'll be exactly on time. I have no idea how or why I do it. And it bothers me when I'm late. I hate change in my pockets. I refuse to be late. I'm odd. We settled that.
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1. If this was a normal build, I would likely agree with you
2. The car was supposed to go to SEMA and CES. Not because of the usual reasons. Mywife runs a pretty good sized aftermarket auto parts business. SEMA and CES are business tools to attract new customers, retain old ones and expense the considerable expense this car has cost. No SEMA, no benefits.
3. Most importantly I am a timetable guy. I can probably start driving for NYC right now and call and tell you when I will be there and like swallows returning to Capistrano, I'll ring your doorbell +/- 5 mins. If I'm only in the next county I'll be exactly on time. I have no idea how or why I do it. And it bothers me when I'm late. I hate change in my pockets. I refuse to be late. I'm odd. We settled that.
Well I would think you knew when you signed up for this build that it was an R&D project. You said it about 2 to 3 weeks ago. "Just throw parts are it and see what sticks". That guy didnt come across as a man with a time table. It sounded like a guy with money to burn who wanted to give a company like Weistec a chance to R&D and build a sick race car.

Are you OCD? Do you happen to be between meds? Its a joke but I honestly have seen a complete change in your personality. First it was lets just throw money at it. Then it was I am not going to post or do updates about it because im far to busy. Now its I have time tables and I want my car completed yesterday. Quite an alarming change in personalities over a very short period of time. Unless im confusing you with someone else?
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Money is a tool. Sometimes its a weapon. It rarely makes people happy.

I tend to use it to motivate people and to assure them of success. I am not cheap at all. But I understand it is the most basic of tools.

I say what I say to let people know that we will be using and doing the best things we can. When I do something there are rarely compromises. Most people don't believe that. I think in extremely long terms. I plan things out to 5-10 years at a time and don't need to make money back right away. As I said, it assures people. Lets do what we do and we'll spend what it takes to succeed and we'll get the money back one of these days without fail.

Most Americans are broke as broke can be. People generally cannot miss a check without it being an emergency. People that build cars usually have budgets. I keep one in my head. I won't spend money frivolously. But I told Peter this at ACG, if you convince me an upgrade is worthwhile, you have the funds, just do it. But convince me first. There's a ROI in my head that I can make. Some items I won't go for. pert plus likes his new bumper for instance. I can't park. Nobody will convince me to buy an FRP bumper. I don't tolerate it. Others do, that's fine. I make no other judgements. I don't consider it ugly, I just told Peter, no way I'll go for that bumper, its FRP and that's just wrong.

Making it clear you don't worry about money also frees people up. Vivid Racing for instance knows that I don't flinch at overnighting parts if needed. In the scheme of things, while not generally a good expense for frivolous parts, my time is my time and if I have something scheduled to do, being late blows up my world. Most of what I do with my time is worth more than the lost dollars on shipping. Besides, I have a truly phenomenal UPS contract rate. Last I heard I was the number one shipper in all of San Diego County. Not bad for someone you've never heard of and way ahead of lots of people you have heard of.

Money is money. Its a thing to use like women use cleavage. It gets the job done and when you use it generally everyone involved is happier than being yelled at.

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From a completely uninvolved, no skin in this game, bipartisan perspective you sound like a complete idiot and a lunatic. I thought JCart came off like a c-ck in the past but at least he is consistent. You are all over the board and if you are what you have said you are from the get go this whole build would not create such havoc in your life.

Bottom line is that this is a insignificant car to you and you run all these businesses and you are really rich yet you are spending all this time trashing these guys and arguing and now destroyng the car, weird......

As for ACG I feel bad for them, sorry you guys got in bed with such a loon. That is the down side to the web. Yeah you can get the word out on your business but you are also subject to uncontrolled internet personas going wacko at any time.
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