ACG Build: C63 Weistec Stage 2
Tell us how Rich you are again. From experience I usually find the people who tell you how much money they have, dont have anything.
Please read up. I own factories in China. The Chinese work day for management is 8-8. 5am here is 8pm there.
Jim
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
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JSP, you appear to be a bit idiosyncratic, but I don't find your 'net persona to be a dick. Or Pertplus a jerk, either (again, 'net persona... don't know either of you from Adam).
This whole thing reminds me of the old axiom "quality, speed, (low) expense... choose any two." JSP clearly chooses the former two - so he's understandably upset that they're not being delivered. One question - apologies if it was already covered. When you were commencing this build at ACGSD, did they provide you with an estimate for project cost and completion date? Or was it more loosey-goosey, "get it done ASAP, budget isn't a concern, if you need to pay guys overtime, overnight hardware, etc. - that's fine, just get it done as soon as possible (not as soon as convenient - important distinction).
jrcart, you will have some explaining to do. You've not done well for Weistec. Not at all. Besides apparently having either reading comprehension problems or a complete lack of understanding about how my problems relate indirectly to causing Weistec future support issues, you've just put me off the experience all together.
You should scoot your little butt to O'hare. Tomorrow is going to be your day. I'll be at Weistec. And the car will leave there for destinations unknown.
I'm sure all vendors involved will have nothing but good thoughts about you for your help. But true to my word, I'll post honest dyno graphs and my impression of the quality of the build. And after that, if everyone is lucky, I'll just keep quiet.
Jim
I vote for blowing your car up instead of crushing it, we can take it out to the desert and blow ot sky high, you could probably even sell tickets, I would pay $100 to watch it live.
JSP, you appear to be a bit idiosyncratic, but I don't find your 'net persona to be a dick. Or Pertplus a jerk, either (again, 'net persona... don't know either of you from Adam).
This whole thing reminds me of the old axiom "quality, speed, (low) expense... choose any two." JSP clearly chooses the former two - so he's understandably upset that they're not being delivered. One question - apologies if it was already covered. When you were commencing this build at ACGSD, did they provide you with an estimate for project cost and completion date? Or was it more loosey-goosey, "get it done ASAP, budget isn't a concern, if you need to pay guys overtime, overnight hardware, etc. - that's fine, just get it done as soon as possible (not as soon as convenient - important distinction).
I''ve always paid them up front because they have a lot of high end builds going and I never wanted them to have any issue with time because they are juggling costs from multiple builds. It dovetails nicely with me not liking to owe people money.
Jim
I vote for blowing your car up instead of crushing it, we can take it out to the desert and blow ot sky high, you could probably even sell tickets, I would pay $100 to watch it live.
My parents were not wealthy at all. My father still lives in a double wide in a retirement park in Sebring because he's stubborn and won't take money. I offer it to him all the time and it makes him mad. He's proud that I have made it but refuses any help. We are an independent lot.
I'm a weird guy. I admit it. But whatever I am, I did it myself. So, I realize how hard it is to be a small businessman. Essentially I still am a small business man. I own a lot of things that make money. Each one runs on its own and gets no funding from anything else. Every store runs on its own. Every warehouse. Each of the dozens and dozens of apartment houses. Grocery stores, laundries, trucking, UPS stores, Moneytree locations, vending, ATMs, import/export, customs brokerages, landscaping and probably other ones I would have to get out the books to look at. All independent, all from scratch and acquisition.
Sorry to disappoint you all, I did it all by myself and with my wife. We live in a far smaller house than we can afford, we hire cleaning services instead of having household employees and we buy used cars because paying for depreciation is stupid.

I think what gives people the idea of you having daddy's money or it being given to you is that you act like it. Every post has some sort of brag in it about how money is no object and whatever it takes and how you own many things ect ect. If you dont intend it as a brag then you should check how you type because its coming across that way.
If all those things are true and what you stated you owned above is as well I really dont see what a tiny little insignificant project like this would have any effect on your life. The only way I would get to the point that you are at is if I felt I was being taken for a ride and ripped off. You have said both companies are top notch and doing the right thing so just let these guys do what they have to do and get you your car back. It shouldnt matter in the least to a guy like you.
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I think what gives people the idea of you having daddy's money or it being given to you is that you act like it. Every post has some sort of brag in it about how money is no object and whatever it takes and how you own many things ect ect. If you dont intent it as a brag then you should check how you type because its coming across that way.
If all those things are true and what you stated you owned above is as well I really dont see what a tiny little insignificant project like this would have any effect on your life. The only way I would get to the point that you are at is if I felt I was being taken for a ride and ripped off. You have said both companies are top doing the right thing so just let these guys do what they have to do and get you your car back. It shouldnt matter in the least to a guy like you.
2. The car was supposed to go to SEMA and CES. Not because of the usual reasons. Mywife runs a pretty good sized aftermarket auto parts business. SEMA and CES are business tools to attract new customers, retain old ones and expense the considerable expense this car has cost. No SEMA, no benefits.
3. Most importantly I am a timetable guy. I can probably start driving for NYC right now and call and tell you when I will be there and like swallows returning to Capistrano, I'll ring your doorbell +/- 5 mins. If I'm only in the next county I'll be exactly on time. I have no idea how or why I do it. And it bothers me when I'm late. I hate change in my pockets. I refuse to be late. I'm odd. We settled that.
2. The car was supposed to go to SEMA and CES. Not because of the usual reasons. Mywife runs a pretty good sized aftermarket auto parts business. SEMA and CES are business tools to attract new customers, retain old ones and expense the considerable expense this car has cost. No SEMA, no benefits.
3. Most importantly I am a timetable guy. I can probably start driving for NYC right now and call and tell you when I will be there and like swallows returning to Capistrano, I'll ring your doorbell +/- 5 mins. If I'm only in the next county I'll be exactly on time. I have no idea how or why I do it. And it bothers me when I'm late. I hate change in my pockets. I refuse to be late. I'm odd. We settled that.
Are you OCD? Do you happen to be between meds? Its a joke but I honestly have seen a complete change in your personality. First it was lets just throw money at it. Then it was I am not going to post or do updates about it because im far to busy. Now its I have time tables and I want my car completed yesterday. Quite an alarming change in personalities over a very short period of time. Unless im confusing you with someone else?
I tend to use it to motivate people and to assure them of success. I am not cheap at all. But I understand it is the most basic of tools.
I say what I say to let people know that we will be using and doing the best things we can. When I do something there are rarely compromises. Most people don't believe that. I think in extremely long terms. I plan things out to 5-10 years at a time and don't need to make money back right away. As I said, it assures people. Lets do what we do and we'll spend what it takes to succeed and we'll get the money back one of these days without fail.
Most Americans are broke as broke can be. People generally cannot miss a check without it being an emergency. People that build cars usually have budgets. I keep one in my head. I won't spend money frivolously. But I told Peter this at ACG, if you convince me an upgrade is worthwhile, you have the funds, just do it. But convince me first. There's a ROI in my head that I can make. Some items I won't go for. pert plus likes his new bumper for instance. I can't park. Nobody will convince me to buy an FRP bumper. I don't tolerate it. Others do, that's fine. I make no other judgements. I don't consider it ugly, I just told Peter, no way I'll go for that bumper, its FRP and that's just wrong.
Making it clear you don't worry about money also frees people up. Vivid Racing for instance knows that I don't flinch at overnighting parts if needed. In the scheme of things, while not generally a good expense for frivolous parts, my time is my time and if I have something scheduled to do, being late blows up my world. Most of what I do with my time is worth more than the lost dollars on shipping. Besides, I have a truly phenomenal UPS contract rate. Last I heard I was the number one shipper in all of San Diego County. Not bad for someone you've never heard of and way ahead of lots of people you have heard of.
Money is money. Its a thing to use like women use cleavage. It gets the job done and when you use it generally everyone involved is happier than being yelled at.
Jim
Bottom line is that this is a insignificant car to you and you run all these businesses and you are really rich yet you are spending all this time trashing these guys and arguing and now destroyng the car, weird......
As for ACG I feel bad for them, sorry you guys got in bed with such a loon. That is the down side to the web. Yeah you can get the word out on your business but you are also subject to uncontrolled internet personas going wacko at any time.







