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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 10:58 PM
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Hi Car fans

I'd like to say thank you for the re-run again though I did lose I felt it was a fun race however I think next time would like to start in 3rd gear 100km/h because I have issue shifting from 2nd to 3rd but that is my problem

enjoy guys!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCbNkhFYecw
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 11:04 PM
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Damn that C63 is FAST, Thanks for the video Eugene!!
Would like to see some runs with your car on higher boost.
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 11:18 PM
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Sick runs!

Both rides are FAST...
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 11:20 PM
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Damn that C63 is FAST, Thanks for the video Eugene!!
Would like to see some runs with your car on higher boost.
I guess we will have to take it step by step!

if I go more boost I the belt slip issue will cause a bigger problem but Gintani has a fix for it and should be done next week.

also because the M3 has a higher reving engine I would also need to swap out my charger to a YSI or else I would be over revving the charger.

at the end I think it still comes down to ME the driver !

if I can carry momentum from 2nd-3rd I feel the result will be different atleast a lot closer
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 12:17 AM
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Great video Eugene. That is one fast wagen!
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 12:22 AM
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Great video Eugene. That is one fast wagen!
I find it rather fun!

I'll be back tho
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by EUGENE-Taiwan
I guess we will have to take it step by step!

if I go more boost I the belt slip issue will cause a bigger problem but Gintani has a fix for it and should be done next week.

also because the M3 has a higher reving engine I would also need to swap out my charger to a YSI or else I would be over revving the charger.

at the end I think it still comes down to ME the driver !

if I can carry momentum from 2nd-3rd I feel the result will be different atleast a lot closer
Ahh I see. Glad to see Gintani taking care of things.
Either way your car is a complete MONSTER, much respect for your M3.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 09:53 AM
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Good stuff. Gotta love that wagon, I'll trade my left nut for one of those.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 10:07 AM
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63 and Weistec gets the job done. Very nice results.


I thought the Weistec 600whp was stage 2 though? Also what tune is in the 63?
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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Propain we are now over 660 whp for vegas!
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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Propain we are now over 660 whp for vegas!
@ what psi?

Dyno chart? Still havent seen anything above 600whp.
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Isn't JSPAMG (Jim) doing 630+hp on his car?
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 02:08 PM
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Sick video
To the OP Tnx for posting the video even tho u lost, true champ rite there.
You guy know what would be a sick race. This c63 vs a Audi rs6 by evotech.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 02:13 PM
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Isn't JSPAMG (Jim) doing 630+hp on his car?
Jim's car is stg2Plus. Heads automatically make it stg2 with the blower.
An headers make the plus
That's what I heard I could be wrong.

From what I know (from the forums)
c63 Jim has stg2plus with 91oct. 630rw plus
Jrcart. Stg2plus 100oct. 650rwplus.

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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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Ps. That Dyno chart that's on this video is from Dyno comp from a CLS63 and it's not THAT c63's Dyno.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 02:19 PM
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Ps. That Dyno chart that's on this video is from Dyno comp from a CLS63 and it's not THAT c63's Dyno.
I thought so...


wow big power from all the 63's. Your right, I remember Jim's car posting a 630whp dyno. Havnt seen carts or Ecambells though.

So is a stage 1 with headers 600whp?
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 02:24 PM
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Stg1 alone is just the blower and that's 500rw on 91 oct
Stg1 plus (add headers) 550rw
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 02:32 PM
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Stg1 alone is just the blower and that's 500rw on 91 oct
Stg1 plus (add headers) 550rw
Thought so. So the vid is all kinds of misinforamtion.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 02:40 PM
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From my Math. On pump gas the blower Alone without the tuning adds 60-70rw
(without tuning meaning not adding the additional power that the tune alone revials)
Tune is good for 50-60rw
Headers 35-50
Blower 60-70
Stock 375rw DJ
With does mods 520rw to 550rw give or take it's around that ball park.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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Also guys don't forget if that CLS63 that dynoed 601rw had lightweight wheels and rotors that helps on the Dyno as well 15-20rw. Then u play with the load on the Dyno dynamic and add some more power.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 02:46 PM
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From my Math. On pump gas the blower Alone without the tuning adds 60-70rw
(without tuning meaning not adding the additional power that the tune alone revials)
Tune is good for 50-60rw
Headers 35-50
Blower 60-70
Stock 375rw DJ
With does mods 520rw to 550rw give or take it's around that ball park.
So how are they going from 550 to 660 as stated above? Boost + Race gas tune?
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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So how are they going from 550 to 660 as stated above? Boost + Race gas tune?
Heads plus more boost (5-6psi to 11-13psi) plus race gas and lightweight driveshaft (jrcarts car I believe) lightweight rims rotors that all adds up to power on the Dyno.
660 I never saw but I saw 644 on jrcarts (saw the chart)
Race gas is good for 15-20rw same with rotors and wheels driveshaft another 10rw say so boost should be good for 50rw
Just quessing no real date.

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Heads plus more boost (5-6psi to 11-13psi) plus race gas and lightweight driveshaft (jrcarts car I believe) lightweight rims rotors that all adds up to power on the Dyno.
Nice...

The rim's question though. You say the rims and rotors show more HP on the dyno? Is this number inflated on the dyno then?
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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Nice...

The rim's question though. You say the rims and rotors show more HP on the dyno? Is this number inflated on the dyno then?
Not inflated at all lighter rotation more power.
Jrcart Dyno 20-25rw hight with his dymags
This was 2-3years ago maybe he can tell us more about that but I know someone said it was over 20rw.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 03:21 PM
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Propain if I had money like some guys on here do I would get a P31 c63 (2012)In 10's without touching ECU and exhaust. Only lightweight
What u think possible? Or I'm crazy

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