Evo Mag C63 coupe new comparo vs M-3,Audi,Boss 302
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Evo Mag C63 coupe new comparo vs M-3,Audi,Boss 302
This must be the worst comparo I have seen as far is acceleration. Here is the link:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10422019
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10422019
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Looks like traction on the puny tires that MB puts on its cars always is the Achilles heel.
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Very interesting comparo numbers. We know the C63 has more in it. Even equipped with an lsd it isn't easy to stick off the line without DR's or heated street tires on a prepped track.
I asked a question in another forum not too long ago about the ability of the new race/start to put the power down. I guess it still may not be as easy as we would hope.
The C63's trap should have resulted in a lower ET with a better launch, considering it was the highest of the bunch.
Edit: Also, those delectable wheels likely do not aid traction as much as the 18's. Also, I later noticed this C63 had an lsd.
Thanks for sharing, C63newdude.
I asked a question in another forum not too long ago about the ability of the new race/start to put the power down. I guess it still may not be as easy as we would hope.
The C63's trap should have resulted in a lower ET with a better launch, considering it was the highest of the bunch.
Edit: Also, those delectable wheels likely do not aid traction as much as the 18's. Also, I later noticed this C63 had an lsd.
Thanks for sharing, C63newdude.
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The tool who posted the thread is on MBWORLD too.
Guy has buyers remorse and cognitive dissonance out of the ***, he needs constant verification of his car.
So the test got 4.3 once out of say 20 times? Maybe it was a V-Box error, which happens all the time.
This guy thinks BMW is building some kind of intergalactic space crafts aha
Guy has buyers remorse and cognitive dissonance out of the ***, he needs constant verification of his car.
So the test got 4.3 once out of say 20 times? Maybe it was a V-Box error, which happens all the time.
This guy thinks BMW is building some kind of intergalactic space crafts aha
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The tool who posted the thread is on MBWORLD too.
Guy has buyers remorse and cognitive dissonance out of the ***, he needs constant verification of his car.
So the test got 4.3 once out of say 20 times? Maybe it was a V-Box error, which happens all the time.
This guy thinks BMW is building some kind of intergalactic space crafts aha
Guy has buyers remorse and cognitive dissonance out of the ***, he needs constant verification of his car.
So the test got 4.3 once out of say 20 times? Maybe it was a V-Box error, which happens all the time.
This guy thinks BMW is building some kind of intergalactic space crafts aha
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I don't recommend doing it too often. I did it a few times with my M's, but it's quite hard on the car.
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The M3 was equipped with a DCT. With the DCT, or the previous SMG, you can select "launch control". You don't need any experience, other than pushing a few buttons and keeping your foot in it. With good tires and on dry pavement, you'll be able to replicate that time not just once, but every time. Mercedes offers "race start" in the 2012 C63. Basically the same thing.
I don't recommend doing it too often. I did it a few times with my M's, but it's quite hard on the car.
I don't recommend doing it too often. I did it a few times with my M's, but it's quite hard on the car.
I do expect some drivers in good conditions to get 3.9-4.2 second 0-60 times in the new C63, especially when the cars have P31.
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The M-3 with DCT already tested a 3.9 sec 0-60 mph on a previous test so it is not imposible, it has been done before...
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Although most of you are interested in the straight line acceleration numbers, what interested me the most were the laptimes around the 1.8 mile Bedford Autodrome (the Evo benchmark) in this head to head test.
Despite the facelifted C63 coupe getting the MCT and revised suspension, the M3 was still the king when it came to its pace around this track.
M3: 1:25.1 (peak speed 109.1mph)
RS5: 1:25.4 (peak speed 108.8mph)
C63: 1:27.7 (peak speed 110.0mph)
Boss Mustang: 1:29.0 (peak speed 108.4mph)
I was hoping the facelifted C63 would narrow that performance gap on a track, but it remains about the same (at least in Evo's hands).
Previously, Evo tested the E90 M3 sedan against the pre-facelifted C63 sedan (with PP) in another head to head test and these were the results:
E90 M3: 1:26.2
C63: 1:28.8
Despite the facelifted C63 coupe getting the MCT and revised suspension, the M3 was still the king when it came to its pace around this track.
M3: 1:25.1 (peak speed 109.1mph)
RS5: 1:25.4 (peak speed 108.8mph)
C63: 1:27.7 (peak speed 110.0mph)
Boss Mustang: 1:29.0 (peak speed 108.4mph)
I was hoping the facelifted C63 would narrow that performance gap on a track, but it remains about the same (at least in Evo's hands).
Previously, Evo tested the E90 M3 sedan against the pre-facelifted C63 sedan (with PP) in another head to head test and these were the results:
E90 M3: 1:26.2
C63: 1:28.8
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Although most of you are interested in the straight line acceleration numbers, what interested me the most were the laptimes around the 1.8 mile Bedford Autodrome (the Evo benchmark) in this head to head test.
Despite the facelifted C63 coupe getting the MCT and revised suspension, the M3 was still the king when it came to its pace around this track.
M3: 1:25.1 (peak speed 109.1mph)
RS5: 1:25.4 (peak speed 108.8mph)
C63: 1:27.7 (peak speed 110.0mph)
Boss Mustang: 1:29.0 (peak speed 108.4mph)
I was hoping the facelifted C63 would narrow that performance gap on a track, but it remains about the same (at least in Evo's hands).
Previously, Evo tested the E90 M3 sedan against the pre-facelifted C63 sedan (with PP) in another head to head test and these were the results:
E90 M3: 1:26.2
C63: 1:28.8
Despite the facelifted C63 coupe getting the MCT and revised suspension, the M3 was still the king when it came to its pace around this track.
M3: 1:25.1 (peak speed 109.1mph)
RS5: 1:25.4 (peak speed 108.8mph)
C63: 1:27.7 (peak speed 110.0mph)
Boss Mustang: 1:29.0 (peak speed 108.4mph)
I was hoping the facelifted C63 would narrow that performance gap on a track, but it remains about the same (at least in Evo's hands).
Previously, Evo tested the E90 M3 sedan against the pre-facelifted C63 sedan (with PP) in another head to head test and these were the results:
E90 M3: 1:26.2
C63: 1:28.8
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^^ I totally agree with you on that. For the mean time we will have to pull our pants down everytime against other cars that are slower but because of the ridiculous,inexplicable choice of tires the C63 AMG will always compromise the performance.
Seriously, what is so difficult about making a 2-3" wider rear fender/wheelwell and properly fit a 10" rim with some 285 or maybe 295 rubber? That would solve many issues and put the C63 AMG into steady a sub 4 sec 0-60mph.
Just like I said a dozen times thorugh out the two years that I have been on this forum I think the C63 AMG is not a complete finished sports car, we lack LSD and wider rear quarter panels, rims and tires. my .2c
Seriously, what is so difficult about making a 2-3" wider rear fender/wheelwell and properly fit a 10" rim with some 285 or maybe 295 rubber? That would solve many issues and put the C63 AMG into steady a sub 4 sec 0-60mph.
Just like I said a dozen times thorugh out the two years that I have been on this forum I think the C63 AMG is not a complete finished sports car, we lack LSD and wider rear quarter panels, rims and tires. my .2c
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So what tires were used for the test?
Let me guess BMW had R-Compounds.
Let me guess BMW had R-Compounds.
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I have read quite a few magazines where the photographed car is not the one tested, so maybe the car actually tested was a non pp car as per the hp ratings they gave?